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  1. #1

    Thoughts on the Giants running a 3-4 package??

    I actually think it could be very realistic. If Rogers makes this team and can provide a nice anchor. Lets take a look at the surrounding cast..

    DLine - Canty (3-4 in Dallas)
    JPP (can do anything)
    Austin (Explosive, with a quick start)
    Tuck (ultra versitile)
    Joseph (seems to be more of a 4-3 guy)
    Osi (Probably not a good fit for a 3-4)
    Bernard (4-3 guy)

    LB - Kiwi (Great fit, experience at both LB/DE)
    Boley (extremely versitile, might be MLB)
    Rivers (Athletic enough to play all posit.)
    JWill (Great athlete and good coverage)
    Herz (Superb tackler, working on cover)
    Chase (same as Herz)
    Jones (good tackler, not great in cover)
    Tracy (Great pass rushing ability)
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    Round 2 - David Yankey, OG - Stanford
    Round 3 - Allen Robinson, WR - Penn State
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    Round 6 - Andrew Jackson, ILB - W. Kentucky
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    Re: Thoughts on the Giants running a 3-4 package??

    This idea keeps coming back every offseason, and every year someone has to step in and say no, it won't happen this year or any time soon.

  3. #3

    Re: Thoughts on the Giants running a 3-4 package??

    This idea keeps coming back every offseason, and every year someone has to step in and say no, it won't happen this year or any time soon.

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    Re: Thoughts on the Giants running a 3-4 package??

    [quote user="Shockeyitus"]I actually think it could be very realistic. If Rogers makes this team and can provide a nice anchor. Lets take a look at the surrounding cast..

    DLine - Canty (3-4 in Dallas)
    JPP (can do anything)
    Austin (Explosive, with a quick start)
    Tuck (ultra versitile)
    Joseph (seems to be more of a 4-3 guy)
    Osi (Probably not a good fit for a 3-4)
    Bernard (4-3 guy)

    LB - Kiwi (Great fit, experience at both LB/DE)
    Boley (extremely versitile, might be MLB)
    Rivers (Athletic enough to play all posit.)
    JWill (Great athlete and good coverage)
    Herz (Superb tackler, working on cover)
    Chase (same as Herz)
    Jones (good tackler, not great in cover)
    Tracy (Great pass rushing ability)[/quote]

    and guess what...


    All of them can play in a 4-3. So why do you purpose this change?

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    Re: Thoughts on the Giants running a 3-4 package??

    well.. you two are assuming that we are changing the entire defense. All i mentioned was a "package", meaning a few schemes or plays were we line up in a 3-4. Quit being touchy and expand the mind.
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    2014 Draft:
    Round 1 - Eric Ebron, TE - North Carolina
    Round 2 - David Yankey, OG - Stanford
    Round 3 - Allen Robinson, WR - Penn State
    Round 4 - Anthony Johnson, DT - LSU
    Round 5 - Rashaad Reynolds, CB - Oregon State
    Round 6 - Andrew Jackson, ILB - W. Kentucky
    Round 7 - ** Traded for Jon Beason **

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    Re: Thoughts on the Giants running a 3-4 package??

    Why would you want to change a young team that just won the Super Bowl?

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    Re: Thoughts on the Giants running a 3-4 package??

    [quote user="CGYgiant"][quote user="Shockeyitus"]I actually think it could be very realistic. If Rogers makes this team and can provide a nice anchor. Lets take a look at the surrounding cast..

    DLine - Canty (3-4 in Dallas)
    JPP (can do anything)
    Austin (Explosive, with a quick start)
    Tuck (ultra versitile)
    Joseph (seems to be more of a 4-3 guy)
    Osi (Probably not a good fit for a 3-4)
    Bernard (4-3 guy)

    LB - Kiwi (Great fit, experience at both LB/DE)
    Boley (extremely versitile, might be MLB)
    Rivers (Athletic enough to play all posit.)
    JWill (Great athlete and good coverage)
    Herz (Superb tackler, working on cover)
    Chase (same as Herz)
    Jones (good tackler, not great in cover)
    Tracy (Great pass rushing ability)[/quote]

    and guess what...


    All of them can play in a 4-3. So why do you purpose this change?
    [/quote]

    What's up sir? Maybe we can catch up on some Ghost Recon sometime soon. And yeah, I agree with you on this one!

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    Re: Thoughts on the Giants running a 3-4 package??

    We already do drop a DE into coverage sometimes, which isn't ideal, but it keeps offenses guessing and not knowing where the pressure is going to come from. Usually, it means someone else is blitzing and not strictly a 3-4 situation. But most often, it means another DB in coverage, and a three man rush which drove everyone nuts last year. (QBs had all day when we rushed only 3 guys.)

    Let's face the simple fact: that is not our ideal situation with the talent we have on the Dline.
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    and the optimist changes the sails while hoping the lazy piece of crap will start to do his share of the work.

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    Re: Thoughts on the Giants running a 3-4 package??



    [quote user="Shockeyitus"]well.. you two are assuming that we are changing the entire defense. All i mentioned was a "package", meaning a few schemes or plays were we line up in a 3-4. Quit being touchy and expand the mind.[/quote]




    I personally don't think adding a 3-4package really helps the defense at all. It would force us to take some of our better defenders off the field and wouldnt really serve a specific purpose other than throwing another look at the offense, which has little value nowadays since the 3-4 is now so prominent offenses know how to attack it.




    You don't add a package just for the sake of adding a package, it has to have a purpose. For example, our NASCAR package is design to get our best rushers all getting at the QB. Our 3 safety package was built out of necessity from lack of Lbers (in 2010) or loads of injured CBs (2012) to help get out best 11 players on the field.




    Unless you can come up with a goal for this package, I see no reason for the team to take all of the time to develop the package, find where players would fit in, come up with plays for it (and all of the defensive adjustments for it) and practice the whole thing. Alot of time goes into installing an alignment, and it needs to have a goal that justifies that investment.

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    Re: Thoughts on the Giants running a 3-4 package??

    [quote user="Shockeyitus"]I actually think it could be very realistic. If Rogers makes this team and can provide a nice anchor. Lets take a look at the surrounding cast..

    DLine - Canty (3-4 in Dallas)
    JPP (can do anything)
    Austin (Explosive, with a quick start)
    Tuck (ultra versitile)
    Joseph (seems to be more of a 4-3 guy)
    Osi (Probably not a good fit for a 3-4)
    Bernard (4-3 guy)

    LB - Kiwi (Great fit, experience at both LB/DE)
    Boley (extremely versitile, might be MLB)
    Rivers (Athletic enough to play all posit.)
    JWill (Great athlete and good coverage)
    Herz (Superb tackler, working on cover)
    Chase (same as Herz)
    Jones (good tackler, not great in cover)
    Tracy (Great pass rushing ability)[/quote]

    Never say never I guess. They can't hang around with the 32nd rank defense this season very long for sure some improvements have to come from somewhere on defense because the offense took some big off season blows @ TE, RB, OL & WR. Whoops that's everywhere right? Doom dispair & agony on me...

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