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    NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: SATURDAY, JULY 7, 2012 - 9:09 P.M.

    HERE NOW THE NEWS

    NEWS
    ARTICLES ABOUT THE NEW YORK FOOTBALL GIANTS ARE POSTED DAILY AND
    UPDATES ARE ADDED THROUGHOUT THE DAY. GENERAL SPORTS NEWS LINKS ARE
    ALSO INCLUDED.




    NEWARK STAR LEDGER

    NY POST

    STRAHAN SLAMS TOOMER OVER SHOTS AT GIANTS' MANNING

    "Michael Strahan was the anchor of the Giants defense for the better part of
    two decades and is now coming to the aid of former teammate Eli Manning.



    One day after former Giants wide receiver Amani Toomer claimed that Cowboys
    QB Tony Romo was a better quarterback that Eli Manning, Strahan took to the
    airwaves to defend the two-time Super Bowl MVP.




    “You need to check [Toomer’s] house for bath salts,” Strahan said on the Hill
    and Schlereth Show on ESPN Radio. “I haven’t heard anything, but that’s
    surprising to hear. Somebody’s always better than the next.”




    Strahan, who was teammates with both Manning and Toomer during the Giants’
    Super Bowl run in 2007, said he would rather let the players’ accomplishments
    speak for themselves.




    “I just look at what people have done in their careers when it comes to the
    numbers and the things they’ve done to excel and where they are right now,”
    Strahan said. “I look at Eli and I think he’s the only two-time [Super Bowl]
    winning quarterback in the league who gets less respect than anybody else.”




    Strahan, who was teammates with Manning from 2004-08, said that Eli’s critics
    may overlook him due to the way he goes about playing his position.




    “I think maybe it’s his demeanor, maybe it’s just the way he goes about his
    business,” Strahan said. “It’s not showy and it doesn’t look fancy and it’s not
    extravagant looking but you know what, numbers don’t lie, people do.”




    The Giants all-time leader in sacks also credited Manning for believing in
    himself and transforming into a franchise quarterback.




    “The talent level was always there, he could always make all of the throws he
    just has such a high level of confidence right now,” Strahan said. “The Eli
    Manning that the Giants have now is the quarterback that they hoped they
    drafted, that they expected when they drafted.




    “His confidence is through the roof, totally different than when I was
    there.”

    http://www.nypost.com/sports/giants

    THE BERGEN RECORD

    NYET

    http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_sports/football/


    GIANTS' MARK HERZLICH: WE'RE STILL BITTER OVER 9 - 7 SEASON

    "Once the ticker tape and confetti from the Super
    Bowl XLVI
    parade and following stadium celebration have settled, some
    feelings become real again. This reigns true for New York
    Giants
    linebacker Mark Herzlich.


    Herzlich maintains clarity on what happened to him and the team during the
    2011 regular season, but says the Giants are steadfast in remembering a horrible
    four-game losing streak that preempted most media outlets, other teams and even
    some Giants fans to write epitaphs on Big Blue prematurely.





    “I think that as amazing as last year was there is still a bitter taste in
    our mouth from that four game stretch where we lost. Everyone really remembers
    that feeling all too well and playing just for survival just to get into the
    playoffs and just to do that type of thing, that’s not where we want to be at
    half way through the season. We want to put ourselves in position earlier to get
    that playoff spot and then to repeat what we did last year at the end of the
    season.” Herzlich said in an interview with WEEI in Boston.




    #58 is coming into 2012 training camp with more than determination. Mark
    will travel up to Albany with the mindset that the starting position of Mike
    linebacker is his for the taking.





    “It’s mine for the taking,” Herzlich said in April. “I wish the best for
    everybody else, but it’s still a competition. I want the team to do well, and if
    it’s not the spot that the coaches want me in, then that’s one thing. But the
    way I look at it is, there is a place that I can play and I don’t want anyone to
    take that away from me.”




    From the top—head coach Tom
    Coughlin
    —the feelings trickle down unchanged: The need to improve is always
    there. The Giants finished with a 9-7 record. Mark
    Herzlich
    finished his rookie season with 12 tackles recorded in 11 games
    played. Both statements clearly share similarities and parallels in the fact
    that there’s definite progress to be had according the clipboard agenda for the
    virulent G-Men. They’re a resilient bunch that has used the adversity mantra to
    death. This time, the playbook seems to have a new play call in it that comes
    from unsettled and unresolved feelings about how the players and coaches (as
    well as the front office) look back on how 2011 really went down.




    Don’t be surprised if the World Champions come out with massive chips on
    their shoulders as if they missed the playoffs—and play harder now. They may
    seem as if they’ve something to prove to themselves more than any other along
    the way."



    ##

    MICHAEL STRAHAN DEFENDS ELI MANNING: WONDERS IF AMINI TOOMER IS ON BATH SALTS

    "Following two straight days in which retired New York
    Giants
    wide receiver Amani
    Toomer
    referred to Tony Romo as the premiere quarterback in the NFC East,
    future NFL Hall of Famer Michael Strahan came to the defense of Eli Manning, wondering aloud if
    Toomer's opinion has been swayed by the use of bath salts.



    “You need to check [Toomer’s] house for bath salts,” Strahan said on the Hill
    and Schlereth Show on ESPN Radio. “I haven’t heard anything, but that’s
    surprising to hear. Somebody’s always better than the next.”




    Toomer spent much of his day on Friday defending his comments from Thursday, when he said on Sirius XM radio that
    Romo was a better all-around quarterback than Eli. The opinion stirred up a lot
    of press, and an equal number of emotionally charged comments from former Giants
    teammates. In addition to Strahan, recently retired running back Derrick
    Ward
    slammed Toomer for what he felt was a ridiculous thing to say.





    "Toomer, you really don't believe Romo is a better QB than Eli is, do you?
    What happened to you! Eli two SB rings, Tony Romo one playoff win," Ward tweeted. "Bottom line, Eli is a winner! I was in the
    backfield with him for five years and I've seen him grow into what he is now.
    I'd take Eli over Romo any day!"




    Even Brandon
    Jacobs
    and Jeremy Shockey, who was known to have a poor relationship with
    Eli, weighed in on the situation .. both surprised by Toomer's comments. But
    Strahan was quick to offer up an explanation as to why Manning continues to be
    disrespected despite his success.





    “I look at Eli and I think he’s the only two-time [Super Bowl] winning
    quarterback in the league who gets less respect than anybody else," Strahan
    said. "“I think maybe it’s his demeanor, maybe it’s just the way he goes about
    his business. It’s not showy and it doesn’t look fancy and it’s not extravagant
    looking but you know what, numbers don’t lie, people do.”




    As recently as January of this year, even Dallas
    Cowboys
    owner Jerry
    Jones
    felt the biggest difference between his team and Big Blue was the
    quarterback
    . However, stating the obvious and going with the flow doesn't
    create shock waves, and as Toomer continues his transition into the world of
    media, he needs to stir the pot and garner some attention. Ultimately, it's the
    only legitimate explanation for his comments unless, of course, he really is on
    bath salts."

    http://www.giants101.com/


    BIG BLUE VIEW

    NY GIANTS' NEWS AND NOTES: SATURDAY QUICKIE EDITION



    "Good morning, New York Giants
    fans! Here are a few Saturday morning notes for you.



    Giants
    summer questionnaire: RB David Wilson | NJ.com

    Wilson doesn't agree with
    the finesse label some have given him.




    Cosell
    Talks: The Evolving Chess Match : NFL Films Blog

    With training camps
    opening in less than a month, I’ve begun to think about what I expect to see in
    the 2012 NFL season. I’m speaking more broadly, in terms of the continuing
    growth of the game. It’s become axiomatic to say the NFL is a passing league.
    The numbers certainly verify this statement, but there’s more to it than that. I
    want to drill down deeper and put a fine focus on the transformative
    relationship between offensive concepts and defensive reaction/adjustment.




    Handsome
    Hank’s Supplemental Mock Draft " NFL Dave Dameshek Blog




    Now, here are a bunch of links from Pro Football Focus. Some interesting
    notes about Giants -- and former Giants.




    Three
    Years of Passing Under Pressure | ProFootballFocus.com




    Three
    Years of Drop Rate: Tight Ends | ProFootballFocus.com




    Three
    Years of Drop Rate: Wide Receivers | ProFootballFocus.com




    Three
    Years of the Elusive Rating | ProFootballFocus.com




    Three
    Years of Tackle Efficiency: Linebackers | ProFootballFocus.com




    Three
    Years of Tackling Efficiency: Defensive Backs |
    ProFootballFocus.com
    "



    BIG BLUE VIEW PRESEASON ALL NFC-EAST TEAM: WHERE WE STAND



    "Here is a quick look at where we stand so far with our Big Blue View
    preseason All-NFC East Team.



    Center -- David Baas, Giants [47 percent of the vote]
    Guard -- Chris Snee,
    Giants [70 percent of the vote], Evan Mathis, Eagles [26 percent of the vote]




    The amount of support for Baas, who did not play as well as hoped during his
    first season with the Giants, was a bit surprising. My guess? There is no
    dominant center in the division and some of those votes are simply "I am voting
    for the Giants guy" votes.




    Next up will be left tackle, although we won't be doing that today."


    http://www.bigblueview.com/section/news



    INSIDE FOOTBALL

    http://www.insidefootball.com/



    THE RED ZONE

    http://www.theredzone.org/

    GIANTSFOOTBALLBLOG


    AMANI TOOMER'S COMMENTS ABOUT ELI MANNING ARE PUZZLING

    "A good old-fashioned ribbing from a former teammate, however vile, tawdry or
    unsophisticated, hits home in a different way than your average pre-game
    trash-talking opponent or fan critic. It stings, and not just because you played
    together, but because you spent hours, days, sometimes years eating, training,
    even living with each other. There’s no understating the strength of the bonds
    formed in NFL locker rooms, the relationships that, theoretically at least,
    transcend football and last far longer than NFL careers.


    This isn’t always the case, though. Locker room relationships fluctuate on a
    wide spectrum, from sincere to cordial to combative, and everything in between.
    In a heated, competitive environment consisting of more than 50 players fighting
    for playing time and depth chart supremacy, naturally, things get contentious,
    cooperation wanes and fraternization grows sporadic. It’s an interesting
    dynamic, and perhaps what makes team interactions so enthralling. Just ask HBO’s
    “Hard Knocks”, whose popularity is based almost entirely on these developments.
    In some cases, players form strong friendships with other players whose single
    outstanding purpose is ensuring their new cohorts’ demise. This is the sort of
    unhealthy partnership that intuitively shouldn’t work, and the best example is
    the classic quarterback-in-waiting scenario, where a starting, veteran
    quarterback is charged with mentoring, nurturing and preparing a younger
    quarterback until he’s ready to take over. The process is never frowned upon,
    because, well, the younger quarterback is the future! Never mind the veteran
    quarterback who still, contrary to popular belief, wants to continue his career
    and would rather not lose his job, much less to a player he’s being asked to
    tutor in the first place.




    And yet, most teams figure out how to make it
    work. The calculus is never easy, but in most cases even conflicting
    personalities and minor feuds have a way of resolving themselves. Locker room
    infighting is far from the norm, and players have a way of minimizing
    controversy when there are games to be played, non-guaranteed contracts to be
    earned. When players retire or switch teams—whether by trade, free agency or
    one’s own volition—things change. Sometimes guys leave teams on a poor note,
    bridges burned, while others depart with a greater appreciation for their former
    teammates.




    At this point, you’re probably wondering when this boring, drawn-out
    monologue on life in the NFL will end and how it relates to Amani Toomer’s recent comments about Giants quarterback Eli Manning. If you haven’t already heard Toomer’s notorious
    radio interview, here are two of the more interesting morsels generating quite a
    bit of discussion:





    Tony Romo is probably, if you look at it statistically, he’s
    probably the best quarterback in the NFC East,” Toomer said while co-hosting
    Movin’ the Chains on SiriusXM NFL Radio. “You look at Eli Manning and what he
    does in the fourth quarter, but you talk about consistency, talking about 31
    touchdowns and 10 interceptions, that guy can play.”




    “I’m talking about, for me, if I wanted a guy that is going to throw less
    interceptions and be more productive, higher completion percentage, I’m going to
    go with Tony Romo.”




    As heretical as it may seem, there’s nothing wrong with Toomer’s
    statement. Everybody is subject to their own opinion, and if Toomer truly
    believes Romo is a better quarterback than Eli Manning, he is completely within
    his rights to say so. No harm done. A couple of Cowboys fans I go to school with
    make this argument time and again, even after the events of last season, and I
    normally just brush it off and chalk it up to “America’s team-delusion”, or
    something like that. Toomer is not—unless I’m missing something—a Cowboys fan,
    not in the least bit. He spent nearly his entire NFL career with one of Dallas’
    main rivals and almost certainly factored largely into the Cowboys’ declining
    success over the past decade. He played a key rolein Big
    Blue’s upset victory over the one-seeded Cowboys in the divisional round of the
    2007 playoffs. He watched as Manning morphed from an insecure, gun-shy rookie to
    a Super Bowl winning quarterback, even partook in that development and
    maturation. He witnessed Manning outduel Romo on numerous occasions, in the
    regular season and postseason. And after all of that, his opinion—even as
    Co-host Tim Ryan pushed him to the pro-Manning consenses—was firm, unwavering:
    Romo > Manning.




    This brings me back to my rant on the NFL team dynamic, and the relationships
    that either last, fracture or are slightly altered after a player switches teams
    or leaves the game. Toomer doesn’t owe Eli, a former teammate, much of anything
    at all. His job as an NFL analyst requires objectivity and a detached, unbiased
    view of the league, past team affiliations be damned. But as a player whose
    individual and team success is grounded so strongly in Manning’s
    accomplishments, you’d think Toomer would side with his former quarterback,
    rather than endorse a rival qb in his stead. NFL player relationships are tricky
    and rarely predictable, and Toomer’s comments are the latest confirmation of the
    fact. Not that Manning will care, not the quarterback that, after entering last
    season amid a cloud of controversy for thinking he was an “elite” quarterback,
    silenced his detractors with a Super Bowl ring."

    http://www.giantsfootballblog.com/

    GIANTS GAB



    http://www.giantsgab.com/



    GMEN HQ



    http://gmenhq.com/



    YARDBARKER

    MICHAEL STRAHAN FIRES BACK AT AMANI TOOMER IN ELI MANNING VS. TONY ROMO CONTROVERSY

    "Former New York Giants defensive end Michael Strahan used to make a living
    terrorizing quarterbacks. Now, he seems to be content with coming to the
    defense of one. At least to the defense of his former teammate, Eli Manning. One day after former wide
    receiver Amani
    Toomer
    suggested to SiriusXM radio
    that Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo was a better quarterback than
    Eli Manning, Strahan rode to the defense of his former teammate.


    Strahan, appearing on ESPN radio’s “Hill
    and Schlereth Show,” said, “You need to check [Toomer’s] house for
    bath salts.” Strahan explained his reasoning, “I just look at what people have
    done in their careers when
    it comes to the numbers and the things they’ve done to excel and where they are
    right now,” Strahan said. “I look at Eli and I think he’s the only two-time
    [Super Bowl] winning quarterback in the league who gets less respect than
    anybody else.”




    Strahan, who was teammates with Toomer for
    eleven years, didn’t blast Toomer for having an opinion. Instead, he made a
    quick joke referring to how wrong he thought his former teammate was in
    criticizing his former quarterback. “The talent level was always there,”
    Strahan said referring to Eli. “He could always make all of the throws he just
    has such a high level of confidence right now. The Eli Manning that the Giants
    have now is the quarterback that they hoped they drafted, that they expected
    when they drafted. His confidence is through the roof, totally different than
    when I was there.”




    It is hard to blast Toomer for saying what
    he did. If you look at the stats you will find that, during the regular season,
    Tony Romo has better stats than Eli Manning. But Eli Manning is widely regarded
    by many as being better than Tony Romo. Football isn’t about statistics all the
    time. How many times do you see a quarterback throw for 400 yards but lose the
    game?
    Statistics don’t tell the whole tale. But, Toomer is entitled to his opinion
    and Strahan is entitled to his in defense of Eli. The reality of the situation
    is, Toomer said something he didn’t believe up until he looked purely at the
    statistics, and made his decision based on that. Strahan sees a quarterback
    with quite the impressive resume,
    resplendent with two Super Bowl MVP trophies. Neither one of Eli’s former
    teammates are wrong. And you know what? Eli Manning could care less who anyone
    thinks is the best quarterback in the NFC
    East
    so long as at the end of the season the New York Giants are
    sitting on top."

    http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/teams/new_york_giants/56

    GRANTLAND

    http://www.grantland.com/

    SPORTING NEWS

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stories

    NYG REPORTER



    http://nygreporter.com/



    NFL.COM

    http://www.nfl.com/teams/newyorkgiants/profile?team=NYG




    YAHOOSPORTS

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl


    FOX SPORTS


    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/new-york-giants/67056


    NBCSPORTS


    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/3032875/ns/sports-nfl



    CBSSPORTS


    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/p...ew-york-giants



    SI.COM




    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...ts/?eref=sinav





    ESPN.COM

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants

    PRO FOOTBALL WEEKLY


    http://stats.profootballweekly.com/team/giants/


    PRO FOOTBALL WEEKLY

    http://www.profootballweekly.com/team/giants/

    PRO FOOTBALL FOCUS

    http://www.profootballfocus.com/

    MISCELLANEOUS

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    Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: SATURDAY, JULY 7, 2012 - 12:06 P.M.



    Thank you RF for the usual fine job with NNR&G!




    Every year we need some (non)story to get us through the final weeks leading into training camp. I guess AT provided that story this year.




    Here's to finishing off the Independence Weekend strong and safe.




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    No one remembers who came in second.

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    Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: SATURDAY, JULY 7, 2012 - 12:06 P.M.

    Thanks for all you do Roanoke.
    "pssst" I just opened a brew in your honor.

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    Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: SATURDAY, JULY 7, 2012 - 12:06 P.M.

    Thanks as always, RF. I just opened a brew, too. But not for you or anything in particular......I'm just a drunkard.

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    Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: SATURDAY, JULY 7, 2012 - 12:06 P.M.

    [quote user="jomo"]

    Thank you RF for the usual fine job with NNR&G!




    Every year we need some (non)story to get us through the final weeks leading into training camp. I guess AT provided that story this year.




    Here's to finishing off the Independence Weekend strong and safe.




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    [/quote]

    [Y] We see this every year. People making predictions based on nothing factual. Once again we are not to finish better than 8 - 8, Eli is somehow not as good as Romo, rookies are going to shine, etc. I can't wait for training camp so we'll at least have some information to work with.

    I remember the news coming out of training camp/pre-season last year from media heads who were able to witness very brief periods of daily practices. Many of them lamented Victor Cruz's performance creating a lot of MB hand wringing. At the same time, coaches were giving interviews painting a very different picture of Cruz's efforts in practice.

    We need real football and soon lol
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    Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: SATURDAY, JULY 7, 2012 - 12:06 P.M.

    [quote user="Jiffy Jeff"]Thanks as always, RF. I just opened a brew, too. But not for you or anything in particular......I'm just a drunkard.[/quote]

    You go, guy!
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    Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: SATURDAY, JULY 7, 2012 - 12:06 P.M.

    Can't remember where I found this article. Probably from you RF.
    Nice article by Greg Cosell about how offense & defense schemes have evolved in answer to one another.

    http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/07/06/c...content_stream

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    Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: SATURDAY, JULY 7, 2012 - 12:06 P.M.

    [quote user="fourth&forever"]Can't remember where I found this article. Probably from you RF.
    Nice article by Greg Cosell about how offense & defense schemes have evolved in answer to one another.

    http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/07/06/c...content_stream[/quote]

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    Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: SATURDAY, JULY 7, 2012 - 12:06 P.M.

    Roanoke, you got to love it Strahan and Toomer at it, better to be old team mates then current ones I guess!

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    Re: NEWS, NOTES, RUMORS, AND GOSSIP: SATURDAY, JULY 7, 2012 - 12:06 P.M.

    [quote user="Captain Chaos"]Roanoke, you got to love it Strahan and Toomer at it, better to be old team mates then current ones I guess![/quote]

    Just a difference of opinions among friends.
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