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    Seriously what is it going to take?......

    To get this D ready for the playoffs? I mean we can do some damage in the playoffs if we could just get the defense up to an acceptable level!!

    I really am at a loss if it is even possible at this point!! I mean we got holes everywhere! Weak pass rush, rookie LB's soft soft soft secondary!

    I've heard all the knee jerk answers more blitzing, man coverage yada yada but serious can this defense be made playoff ready or is this the best we got?

    And JC can we get some stops on 3rd down ?

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    This defense is a total joke. There is no lead that is save or down and distance that cannot be made.

    Great win against a hated rival but I have no confidence going forward. Injuries have to be considered but I have never seen so many blown coverages and receivers running free in all my years of watching the Giants.

    Not sure there is a solution with these current players, unless JPP can be cloned.

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    Re: Seriously what is it going to take?......

    [quote user="BigBlueFanNJ"]To get this D ready for the playoffs? I mean we can do some damage in the playoffs if we could just get the defense up to an acceptable level!!

    I really am at a loss if it is even possible at this point!! I mean we got holes everywhere! Weak pass rush, rookie LB's soft soft soft secondary!

    I've heard all the knee jerk answers more blitzing, man coverage yada yada but serious can this defense be made playoff ready or is this the best we got?

    This D has serious issues. It is what it is. I say lets just ride this wave as far as it takes us. We know we have no business thinking we make a deep run. We all expect to be eliminated so why keep complaining. Lots to fix on D in offseason, but until then let's just make the best of it
    And JC can we get some stops on 3rd down ?[/quote]
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    a new dc. we get like 2 3 and outs a game.

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    They are on pace to give up 441 points (2nd worst in team history, behind '66 Giants who gave up 501).

    Worse than Sheridan's year.
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    Re: Seriously what is it going to take?......



    [quote user="BigBlueFanNJ"]To get this D ready for the playoffs? I mean we can do some damage in the playoffs if we could just get the defense up to an acceptable level!! I really am at a loss if it is even possible at this point!! I mean we got holes everywhere! Weak pass rush, rookie LB's soft soft soft secondary! I've heard all the knee jerk answers more blitzing, man coverage yada yada but serious can this defense be made playoff ready or is this the best we got? And JC can we get some stops on 3rd down ?[/quote]




    I can not see this defense turning it around this year. Too many holes. The good news is Eli and company can put up alot of points. If Tuck can somehow return to his prior level they could put on a good pass rush and slow the other teams down but I still don't think that would help.


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    there are so many missing pieces on this D what can you do?




    we only have one healthy starting DE. DTs are really inconsistent.




    We're signing guys off the street at LBer and have a converted DE at that position.




    The secondary is held together with duct tape right now (prince is playing like a rookie who missed training camp).




    there's only so much you can do.




    best thing now is if Osi can get healthy,and that's not saying much since teams can run on us at will.


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    Ok so Kenny Phillips will hopefully be back next week so that should eleviate some of the busted converages you saw last night.

    Also remember that the cowboys have alot of crazy recievers. They're reciever corps is really really good. We're not gonna have to deal with anything like that until we play them again..and then not again until we play the Packers.

    The problems with the Run are concerning but we've been getting our tails whipped in the run all season. our DTs aren't good enough and our Linebackers arent good enough but We do have Boley...If Canty can pick it up a little we should be ok.

    Other than that I dont know. We've gotta get better more consistent pass rush and we can't leave rookies alone with big play threats.
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    [quote user="burier"]Ok so Kenny Phillips will hopefully be back next week so that should eleviate some of the busted converages you saw last night. Also remember that the cowboys have alot of crazy recievers. They're reciever corps is really really good. We're not gonna have to deal with anything like that until we play them again..and then not again until we play the Packers. The problems with the Run are concerning but we've been getting our tails whipped in the run all season. our DTs aren't good enough and our Linebackers arent good enough but We do have Boley...If Canty can pick it up a little we should be ok. Other than that I dont know. We've gotta get better more consistent pass rush and we can't leave rookies alone with big play threats.[/quote]




    everyone's busting fewell and he deserves some of it, but those points highlighted there are as true as you can get talking about this defence.




    guys want to see pressure on D, but other than webster who the HELL feels comfortable with any of our secondary in man coverage? Not me.




    without tuck healthy, and with DTs that are REALLY struggling, what can we do?




    all we can hope for is that some of these young guys (joseph, williams, prince) will get much better over the next couple games.


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    Re: Seriously what is it going to take?......

    there are many holes but the players who are the legit starters...i.e. Tuck , Canty, Joseph, ect. Have to have to have to step it up and play better. The secondary is a ****ing mess. The saying is "not on the same page".....they are even using the same books and the books they have are in four different languages....they are a confused mess.....
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