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    Kiwanuka whining...?

    •Giants linebacker Mathias Kiwanuka: “I haven't been held like that since I was a baby.”



    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-r.../post/20068948

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
    •Giants linebacker Mathias Kiwanuka: “I haven't been held like that since I was a baby.”



    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-r.../post/20068948
    You have to admit there were a lot of holding penalties that did not get called tonight, from both the Cowboys and Giants o-lines. Kiwi is right but its not as if the refs were favoring you guys.

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    Oh I agree wholeheartedly. There was a ton of holding on both sides.

    Just wondering what you guys thought of this comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
    Oh I agree wholeheartedly. There was a ton of holding on both sides.

    Just wondering what you guys thought of this comment.
    He sounds like a little kid, he needs to get over it and move forward. The less our guys open their mouths to the media the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
    Oh I agree wholeheartedly. There was a ton of holding on both sides.

    Just wondering what you guys thought of this comment.
    I think the refs did ok considering. But they clearly had a hard time with the holding calls. They got a couple but I think they were mostly on Dallas. I think Kiwanuka said that with a smile so no problem there. Both OLs were holding and both were getting away with as much as they could. Both DLs are a strength and both OLs need some work. I was pleasantly surprised by the Dallas OL getting Murray some yards later on. Not so much with the NY running game. Both teams inside LBs were better this year. Rivers played well. Hard to tell what the NY secondary will be like with all the people out and injured. That could be a problem for NY. I'm surprised Eli and Cruz aren't getting more heat. Dallas's DBs are way better this year but I don't know about the depth there either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jobberone View Post
    I think the refs did ok considering. But they clearly had a hard time with the holding calls. They got a couple but I think they were mostly on Dallas. I think Kiwanuka said that with a smile so no problem there. Both OLs were holding and both were getting away with as much as they could. Both DLs are a strength and both OLs need some work. I was pleasantly surprised by the Dallas OL getting Murray some yards later on. Not so much with the NY running game. Both teams inside LBs were better this year. Rivers played well. Hard to tell what the NY secondary will be like with all the people out and injured. That could be a problem for NY. I'm surprised Eli and Cruz aren't getting more heat. Dallas's DBs are way better this year but I don't know about the depth there either.

    Why would Eli be taking heat for last night? Sure, he could have gotten out a bit quicker on his leads blocks on running plays but other than that.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntegrase96 View Post
    Oh I agree wholeheartedly. There was a ton of holding on both sides.

    Just wondering what you guys thought of this comment.
    He never should have said it. Making excuses and sounding weak in pro football is a no no. That said, there was a lot of cuddling between both clubs :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hessian View Post
    He never should have said it. Making excuses and sounding weak in pro football is a no no. That said, there was a lot of cuddling between both clubs :P
    Was there calls or Non calls in this case that effected the game. sure. there are in every game for all 32 teams. It just seems in last several years the giants have had more then their fair share of them the actually cost them a win vs GB last season and several other cases I wont mention here as there are tons of threads on them

    With that said, Dallas will come to a few times in the season where its fanbase will be complaining about a loss because of a bad call or lack of a call. What goes around comes around. not saying cruz hold was the difference as the giants would of still lost by 3. however when you see a star DE getting not just held but almost tackled on every play its gets a little comical. also was listening to a sports station that was saying that BB was really happen what he saw the cowboys getting away with on the Giants WRs.. the announcer said BB will have his players do it all day until its called
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    In the midst of this losing season, we can console ourselves with this fact-

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    2-Washington, Green Bay, Denver, Pittsburgh, Baltimore
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    The holding wasn't the issue for me since it was occurring equally on both sides and not being called equally on both sides, as mentioned already.
    My issue was Victor Cruz being tackled 2 seconds before the ball arrived in the end zone and not being called. No clue how they missed that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njg85m View Post
    The holding wasn't the issue for me since it was occurring equally on both sides and not being called equally on both sides, as mentioned already.
    My issue was Victor Cruz being tackled 2 seconds before the ball arrived in the end zone and not being called. No clue how they missed that one.
    2 seconds? lol, what are ya nuts? try .2 seconds.

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