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    If Coughlin....

    Starts Osi or Tuck over JPP at any point moving forward he's a complete idiot. JPP is our best defensive player and should only be coming off the field to rest when he needs it. Tuck injured or not is playing so soft it's pathetic, he was dancing around the tackles opposed to rushing the damn passer on Sunday it was driving me nuts!!! Watch some of the game if you can and watch Tuck it was seriously pathetic. I don't care if you're hurting if you're on the football field you need to give some sort of effort. He looked like he was playing in the pro bowl. Osi has been non-existent for awhile even before he was hurt. Does NOT deserve to start under any circumstances.

    He's also a complete idiot if he hands Baas his starting job back at any point this year and messes with this current O-line we have. Two 100 yard rushing efforts from this lineup and only 1 sack I believe (I know there was at least one in Pack game and none in Cowgirls game.) It'd be absolutely ridiculous to shake that up again.

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    What if he starts Bradshaw ahead of Jacobs?

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    It doesn't matter who starts... They all get their snaps in.




    Also, JPP needs his snaps managed as he still gets fatigued/crampy if he plays too many downs throughout the course of a game.




    Baas, I think, has been bothered by this whole neck/headache issue longer than we think. Also, he's had to do his fair share of trying to pick up Diehl's slack at G.




    By all accounts, Osi's had a better year than Tuck...


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    By all accounts, Osi's had a better year than Tuck...

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    Stat-wise, they are almost equal...

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    [quote user="Vtgmenfan89"]Starts Osi or Tuck over JPP at any point moving forward he's a complete idiot. JPP is our best defensive player and should only be coming off the field to rest when he needs it. Tuck injured or not is playing so soft it's pathetic, he was dancing around the tackles opposed to rushing the damn passer on Sunday it was driving me nuts!!! Watch some of the game if you can and watch Tuck it was seriously pathetic. I don't care if you're hurting if you're on the football field you need to give some sort of effort. He looked like he was playing in the pro bowl. Osi has been non-existent for awhile even before he was hurt. Does NOT deserve to start under any circumstances.

    He's also a complete idiot if he hands Baas his starting job back at any point this year and messes with this current O-line we have. Two 100 yard rushing efforts from this lineup and only 1 sack I believe (I know there was at least one in Pack game and none in Cowgirls game.) It'd be absolutely ridiculous to shake that up again.[/quote]

    When/if they are all healthy enough to play, how many more or fewer snaps do you think JPP gets? You do know Tuck, for example, also lines up inside?
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    [quote user="Vtgmenfan89"]Starts Osi or Tuck over JPP at any point moving forward he's a complete idiot. JPP is our best defensive player and should only be coming off the field to rest when he needs it. Tuck injured or not is playing so soft it's pathetic, he was dancing around the tackles opposed to rushing the damn passer on Sunday it was driving me nuts!!! Watch some of the game if you can and watch Tuck it was seriously pathetic. I don't care if you're hurting if you're on the football field you need to give some sort of effort. He looked like he was playing in the pro bowl. Osi has been non-existent for awhile even before he was hurt. Does NOT deserve to start under any circumstances.

    He's also a complete idiot if he hands Baas his starting job back at any point this year and messes with this current O-line we have. Two 100 yard rushing efforts from this lineup and only 1 sack I believe (I know there was at least one in Pack game and none in Cowgirls game.) It'd be absolutely ridiculous to shake that up again.[/quote]

    When/if they are all healthy enough to play, how many more or fewer snaps do you think JPP gets? You do know Tuck, for example, also lines up inside?
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    [quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="Vtgmenfan89"]Starts Osi or Tuck over JPP at any point moving forward he's a complete idiot. JPP is our best defensive player and should only be coming off the field to rest when he needs it. Tuck injured or not is playing so soft it's pathetic, he was dancing around the tackles opposed to rushing the damn passer on Sunday it was driving me nuts!!! Watch some of the game if you can and watch Tuck it was seriously pathetic. I don't care if you're hurting if you're on the football field you need to give some sort of effort. He looked like he was playing in the pro bowl. Osi has been non-existent for awhile even before he was hurt. Does NOT deserve to start under any circumstances.

    He's also a complete idiot if he hands Baas his starting job back at any point this year and messes with this current O-line we have. Two 100 yard rushing efforts from this lineup and only 1 sack I believe (I know there was at least one in Pack game and none in Cowgirls game.) It'd be absolutely ridiculous to shake that up again.[/quote]

    When/if they are all healthy enough to play, how many more or fewer snaps do you think JPP gets?* You do know Tuck, for example, also lines up inside?
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    Very much aware. But the way he's playing right now he definitely shouldn't be inside. Way too soft. In terms of the snap counts, I've just thought all of JPP's best games have come in one's that he's started. So yes I know he'll still get a bunch of snaps, but seeing as how he's been a top 5 if not top 3 D-end this year, I also think him coming off the bench moving forward is an insult to what he's done this year for this team. However thankfully he doesn't have Osi's mentality and still brings it no matter what.

    Looking back on this post I'd like to point out I was definitely blowing off some steam with the Tuck comments. I had just watched the Cowboys game on rewind and I was just disgusted by his performance. I do understand he was hurt but I mean he really was doing almost nothing out there, even effort wise. Thank god JPP played the way he did because I doubt we'd have won the game if he didn't. Not that you all don't already know that.

    What do you guys think happens with Osi after this season? Is his time in blue over? I personally think so. I'd be very content with JPP and a healthy Tuck along with Kiwi and Tolly as a rotation.

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    [quote user="Vtgmenfan89"]Starts Osi or Tuck over JPP at any point moving forward he's a complete idiot. JPP is our best defensive player and should only be coming off the field to rest when he needs it. Tuck injured or not is playing so soft it's pathetic, he was dancing around the tackles opposed to rushing the damn passer on Sunday it was driving me nuts!!! Watch some of the game if you can and watch Tuck it was seriously pathetic. I don't care if you're hurting if you're on the football field you need to give some sort of effort. He looked like he was playing in the pro bowl. Osi has been non-existent for awhile even before he was hurt. Does NOT deserve to start under any circumstances. He's also a complete idiot if he hands Baas his starting job back at any point this year and messes with this current O-line we have. Two 100 yard rushing efforts from this lineup and only 1 sack I believe (I know there was at least one in Pack game and none in Cowgirls game.) It'd be absolutely ridiculous to shake that up again.[/quote]You've got Coughlin being an idiot base on two hypotheticals here. Nothing wrong with getting riled up but do it based on something that's real. Coughlin has run a meritocracy for as long as he's been here. No reason to fret over that changing for a guy in his mid 60's. [B]
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    [quote user="jomo"][quote user="Vtgmenfan89"]Starts Osi or Tuck over JPP at any point moving forward he's a complete idiot. JPP is our best defensive player and should only be coming off the field to rest when he needs it. Tuck injured or not is playing so soft it's pathetic, he was dancing around the tackles opposed to rushing the damn passer on Sunday it was driving me nuts!!! Watch some of the game if you can and watch Tuck it was seriously pathetic. I don't care if you're hurting if you're on the football field you need to give some sort of effort. He looked like he was playing in the pro bowl. Osi has been non-existent for awhile even before he was hurt. Does NOT deserve to start under any circumstances. He's also a complete idiot if he hands Baas his starting job back at any point this year and messes with this current O-line we have. Two 100 yard rushing efforts from this lineup and only 1 sack I believe (I know there was at least one in Pack game and none in Cowgirls game.) It'd be absolutely ridiculous to shake that up again.[/quote]You've got Coughlin being an idiot base on two hypotheticals here. Nothing wrong with getting riled up but do it based on something that's real. Coughlin has run a meritocracy for as long as he's been here. No reason to fret over that changing for a guy in his mid 60's. [B][/quote]

    Haha yeah I was just blowing off a bit of steam cuz I had watched the game on rewind and Tuck's performance bugged the hell out of me. I do however hope he doesn't switch up this O-line. They are killing it out there.

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    [quote user="Vtgmenfan89"][quote user="RoanokeFan"][quote user="Vtgmenfan89"]Starts Osi or Tuck over JPP at any point moving forward he's a complete idiot. JPP is our best defensive player and should only be coming off the field to rest when he needs it. Tuck injured or not is playing so soft it's pathetic, he was dancing around the tackles opposed to rushing the damn passer on Sunday it was driving me nuts!!! Watch some of the game if you can and watch Tuck it was seriously pathetic. I don't care if you're hurting if you're on the football field you need to give some sort of effort. He looked like he was playing in the pro bowl. Osi has been non-existent for awhile even before he was hurt. Does NOT deserve to start under any circumstances.

    He's also a complete idiot if he hands Baas his starting job back at any point this year and messes with this current O-line we have. Two 100 yard rushing efforts from this lineup and only 1 sack I believe (I know there was at least one in Pack game and none in Cowgirls game.) It'd be absolutely ridiculous to shake that up again.[/quote]

    When/if they are all healthy enough to play, how many more or fewer snaps do you think JPP gets? You do know Tuck, for example, also lines up inside?
    [/quote]

    Very much aware. But the way he's playing right now he definitely shouldn't be inside. Way too soft. In terms of the snap counts, I've just thought all of JPP's best games have come in one's that he's started. So yes I know he'll still get a bunch of snaps, but seeing as how he's been a top 5 if not top 3 D-end this year, I also think him coming off the bench moving forward is an insult to what he's done this year for this team. However thankfully he doesn't have Osi's mentality and still brings it no matter what.

    Looking back on this post I'd like to point out I was definitely blowing off some steam with the Tuck comments. I had just watched the Cowboys game on rewind and I was just disgusted by his performance. I do understand he was hurt but I mean he really was doing almost nothing out there, even effort wise. Thank god JPP played the way he did because I doubt we'd have won the game if he didn't. Not that you all don't already know that.

    What do you guys think happens with Osi after this season? Is his time in blue over? I personally think so. I'd be very content with JPP and a healthy Tuck along with Kiwi and Tolly as a rotation.[/quote]

    Osi had little contract leverage before the season started and, based upon his play, when he does, the leverage ship has run aground. He has one more year on his contract. I'm not sure if he would bring anything of value in a trade but we need some sooner rather than later help at DE. We have to factor Tuck into the equation as well. If he can't play any better than he is now, we may be needing to replace both of them in the not too distant future.

    We can't ignore the CAP issue. Players who are drawing multi-million dollar salaries need to produce accordingly. If they can't, business decisions need to be made.
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