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    My $0.02 on the Replacement Refs

    I know it's not going well, and I think that if the real refs want more money (I assume that's what it's about, though I haven't been following the dispute) then the NFL can certainly afford to pay them and should do so!

    That said,

    I hope the players, coaches, fans, and especially THE MEDIA remember to apply these huuuuuuuuuge levels of scrutiny once the regular refs come back.

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    I think they will if the calls are this bad. did you watch the last 2 games, the Sunday Night and Monday night games? Those could be the 2 worst officiated games I have ever seen.... well, I guess there was the Packers games last year with the real refs too :-)

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    No doubt there have been some terrible calls.

    hmmm, terrible calls by the refs. When has that happened before? Oh yea, every other game in every other sport ever!

    PS - Giants/Niners '03 playoff. I rest my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue10 View Post
    No doubt there have been some terrible calls.

    hmmm, terrible calls by the refs. When has that happened before? Oh yea, every other game in every other sport ever!

    PS - Giants/Niners '03 playoff. I rest my case.
    True, that call was horrible and ended our season, but these refs make that mistake every other play it seems like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue10 View Post
    I know it's not going well, and I think that if the real refs want more money (I assume that's what it's about, though I haven't been following the dispute) then the NFL can certainly afford to pay them and should do so!

    That said,

    I hope the players, coaches, fans, and especially THE MEDIA remember to apply these huuuuuuuuuge levels of scrutiny once the regular refs come back.
    It's not just about money it's about pension plans. The refs want a pension plan for what amounts to a part time job. Who gets a pension plan anymore!
    I understand the NFL's position and at some point you just have to say no, know matter how bad things are.
    I mean it's like a hostage situation... I do want them back though.

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    This pic sums it up perfectly


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    Pensions aren't money?

    @NYFG

    That sums the perception up perfectly... just not the reality.

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    east bay is saying that it's not like they've asked for an increased salary.

    they're trying to convert their pension plan from a defined benefit plan (where you're guarnteed a certain benefit irrespective of how financially successful the plan's investments are) to a defined contribution (where they get whatever the plan can afford to pay out based on what you paid in).

    basically the whole western world in converting to defined contribution plans (defined benefit plan was largely what sunk GM), and there's no way the NFL is just going to cave when it just converted their FULL TIME employees to the same proposed plan.

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    At the set of the sun everyday, this will always be a business. One does not just go around handing their employees everything they want do they? Would you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueBlue10 View Post
    I know it's not going well, and I think that if the real refs want more money (I assume that's what it's about, though I haven't been following the dispute) then the NFL can certainly afford to pay them and should do so!

    That said,

    I hope the players, coaches, fans, and especially THE MEDIA remember to apply these huuuuuuuuuge levels of scrutiny once the regular refs come back.

    If they cave, and hand the refs exactly what they want, what leverage (if any) does that give the OWNERS of this product in future contracts and labor disputes? just about none, please, please people think economically. Think business. Think realistic.

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