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    Post News, notes, rumors, and gossip: Thursday, September 27, 2012

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    NEWARK STAR LEDGER

    Giants' Rocky Bernard says Michael Vick will have to get rid of the ball soomer; "He's not inhuman"

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...l#incart_river

    Excerpt: "Michael Vick has made a living scrambling out of the pocket and eluding pass rushers with unprecedented mobility at the quarterback position.

    But with that has also come a multitude of big hits. And through three games this season, he's taken even more than usual -- nine sacks and 28 total hits, to be exact.

    That, Rocky Bernard and others on the Giants defensive line believe, is the product of a few problems. Yes, there's the battered offensive line. But some of it's Vick's own doing.

    "I know a lot of people want to blame it on the offensive line, but I think usually when stuff like that happens, it works both ways," defensive tackle Rocky Bernard said. "Blocking also maybe he's holding the ball a little too long, trying to make the big play every time instead of taking what the defense gives you." Read more...


    Giants' Antrel Rolle unsure he'll be able to play against Eagles this Sunday

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...unsure_if.html

    Excerpt: "Giants safety Antrel Rolle said he's unsure if he'll be able to play Sunday against the Eagles, after suffering a contusion and laceration to his left knee in a collision with a sideline cameraman last week.

    "Right now, I can’t say it’s a for sure thing," Rolle said. "In my mind, am I going to play on Sunday? Yeah. But God willing, hopefully everything goes as planned and my knee feels good enough to go out there on Sunday, and I will be out there." Read more...

    Giants' Perry Fewell says Prince Amukamara will get his first NFL start on Sunday

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...l#incart_river

    Excerpt: "Questions and concerns remain in the Giants secondary.

    Jayron Hosley and Michael Coe continue to deal with hamstring injuries. Antrel Rolle missed practice today due to a freak knee injury he suffered when he ran into a camera last week. Each player's status for Sunday night is up in the air.

    But two things are certain: Corey Webster, broken hand and all, will play Sunday, and Prince Amukamara will be opposite him making his first career start.

    "Prince will be the starter on Sunday," Fewell said. "No doubt. Yes." Read more...


    Giants' Antrel Rolle, Jayron Hosley, Keith Rivers not practicing today

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...l#incart_river

    Excerpt: "Antrel Rolle (knee) didn't expect his knee injury, suffered last week against the Panthers when he ran into a camera, was going to be an issue. But after being limited in practice Wednesday, the safety wasn't at practice today.

    Yesterday, Tom Coughlin told reporters he expected Rolle to be limited.

    "Well, he’s limited. It says limited," Coughlin said. "He’s gonna do everything he can. It’s very difficult to control him, so he’s anxious to get ready." Read more...


    Giants' Victor Cruz returns to where it all began

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...eturns_to.html

    Excerpt: "Fourteen minutes into his first career start, Victor Cruz lined up in the slot next to Hakeem Nicks on third-and-2. He ran a wheel route, slipping behind the established star Nicks untouched as the cornerback opposite him blitzed from Eli Manning’s blindside. Sensing the pressure, Manning connected with Cruz six yards downfield on the Giants’ 39-yard line, enough for a first down.

    From there, Cruz debuted his playmaking ability on the grand stage — barrelling through an arm tackle, sprinting 10 more yards down the sideline where he broke two more futile tackle attempts at midfield from Eagles safety Kurt Coleman and All-Pro cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha." Read more...


    Giants' Andre Brown not worried about number of carries, just making the most of them

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...t_worried.html

    Excerpt: "Andre Brown isn't worried about how many carries he'll receive this week. The Giants running back is only worried about maximizing each one.

    "If I'm in a moment, if I'm in a groove, coach says he's going to go with the hot hand," Brown said today. "If Ahmad is in a groove, let the hot hand go. I'm just going out there and try to take advantage of every carry I get." Read more...

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    Rolle still unable to practice with the Giants

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/gia...ce-with-giants

    Excerpt: "The Giants have insisted that the knee injury suffered by Antrel Rolle last Thursday night isn’t serious, but one week later he’s still not back on the practice field.

    Rolle was missing again on Thursday afternoon as the Giants began their daily practice. It’s the third straight practice he will have missed due to the injury he suffered during a collision with a camera man on the sidelines during the Giants’ 36-7 win in Carolina." Read more...


    Bradshaw has a bulging disc in his neck

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/gia...sc-in-his-neck

    Excerpt: "Ahmad Bradshaw didn’t just sprain his neck two weeks ago. He suffered what he called a bulging and inflamed disc.

    The Giants’ top running back revealed that secret after practice on Thursday afternoon. He said he “feels great” and there’s nothing that will prevent him from playing in Philadelphia on Sunday night.

    But he knows discs are tricky, and he’s in danger of the issue flaring up again.

    “I can’t say it won’t happen again,” he said. “But I’m prepared for it. I can’t worry about that.”

    Bradshaw suffered the injury early in the Giants’ Week 2 win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He said he took a hit in the first quarter “and felt tingling in my hands.” He then stayed in, took another hit, and “it happened again.”

    After that, the Giants put in Andre Brown, who finished that game and started the Giants’ win in Carolina last Thursday night, too. The Giants never publicly disclosed the nature of Bradshaw’s injury, though one source close to Bradshaw had described it as a mere “sprain.” Read more...

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    Bradshaw and Brown can co-exist

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...icle-1.1168690

    Excerpt: "
    The Giants offensive linemen swear they never pay attention to who is getting the ball behind them. Their assignments are the same, and their blocking remains consistent, no matter who the ball carrier is.

    It’s impossible, though, not to notice the difference in the Giants’ ground game since the running backs changed two weeks ago. There has been new life in their once-dormant rushing attack since

    Andre Brown
    started getting the ball." Read more...


    Week 4 Preview: Giants @ Eagles - VIDEO

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/gia...ants-at-eagles

    Excerpt: "Three weeks into the NFL season, the Giants are poised to take control of the NFC East as they head to Philadelphia to face the suddenly turnover-prone Eagles. Hakeem Nicks and Ahmad Bradshaw should be back for the Giants and it's possible the real officials will be back in time for kickoff too. In our first Blue Screen video of 2012, Ralph Vacchiano examines the three biggest keys for the Giants (just ignore the third if the NFL and their locked out officials have already reached a new deal)."

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    Barden may catch on like Cruz

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giant...gPPiBpvCabt6NN

    Excerpt: "
    During Week 3 last season against the Eagles, Victor Cruz started at wide receiver for the Giants because of injuries and unleashed a 110-yard, two-touchdown performance, setting the stage for his unpredictable and remarkable season. During Week 3 last Thursday against the Panthers, Ramses Barden made his first NFL start and, with Hakeem Nicks sidelined with a foot injury, had nine catches for 138 yards.

    Though Nicks will return this week, could the 6-foot-6 wideout’s breakout game lead to a breakout year?

    “Perhaps, perhaps,” Barden said with a smile. “I don’t want to be the Victor Cruz superstar per se, just somebody who helps this team win. He had his path and I’ll have my own. You’re always going to work, but when you see it pays off, then it becomes more fun to do it and you end up working even more.” Read more...


    Giants' plan for Vick: "Just go after him"

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giant...wm3FwRYPBpFIOP

    Excerpt: "
    Andy Reid reiterated yesterday Michael Vick will remain the Eagles’ starting quarterback. What the Eagles coach called “bad semantics” was left open to interpretation because of Vick’s poor play this season, in which he has had nine turnovers (six interceptions, three fumbles) compared with four touchdowns (three throwing, one rushing) in three games, prompting discussion of the 32-year-old’s decline.

    But Giants linebacker Mathias Kiwanuka said he doesn’t believe Vick has changed much. He just thinks the way defenses play the Eagles quarterback has.

    “It used to be try and contain him, don’t pressure him because he’ll get by, but now it’s more like, just go after him,” Kiwanuka said after yesterday’s practice. “We’ve had that philosophy here for a while. We don’t change that. We do that no matter whom we’re playing. I think you’re seeing other teams adopt that same game plan. I think it has just become a point of emphasis for everybody.” Read more...


    Post Power Rankings: Giant opportunity to bury Eagles

    http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/nflbli...cVlZ1AxdC768WO

    Excerpt: "It was Week 3 last year when the Giants came to Philadelphia loaded with doubts.

    They were 1-1 after an ugly Monday night win over the Rams, while the Eagles were also 1-1, but still considered the Super Bowl favorites by most. The Giants stunned the Eagles that day thanks to a breakout performance by Victor Cruz, which keyed a 6-2 start. This year the same teams come to Philadelphia with identical records (2-1) again, but it’s the Giants that have the heavy expectations and the Eagles who seem on the brink of failure." Read more...



    Coughlin: Bradshaw to start, but Brown will get the ball

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giant...qlqixGqGdvX6YM

    Excerpt: "
    Ahmad Bradshaw vows he will suit up Sunday night in Philadelphia, and Tom Coughlin said he will do it as the Giants’ starting running back. But the Giants coach added that Andre Brown had “definitely” earned himself a bigger role and more carries, and he reserved the right to go with the hot hand.

    “One year we had three guys. There’s a long way to go, and we’re just happy we’ve had an opportunity to develop some players, and they’ll all have the chance to contribute,’’ Coughlin said. “At this point, it’ll be according to however we plan to use them. Naturally we reserve the right to go with who has the hot hand. So many times that’s been Ahmad in that situation, that’s helpful.’’ Read more...


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    Giants' OLine to be tested

    http://www.northjersey.com/sports/17...be_tested.html

    Excerpt: "Memories of a battered Eli Manning routinely pulling himself out of the Candlestick Park mud still cause Chris Snee to cringe all these months later.

    If anyone feels for Eagles quarterback Michael Vick because of the punishment the Giants’ defense hopes to deliver, it’s Snee and the rest of the offensive linemen tasked to protect Manning from the same kind of beating in prime time Sunday night.

    "It’s as painful during the game when you’re picking him up, but also when you’re watching the tape the next day and you’re seeing your quarterback lying on the field," Pro Bowl right guard Snee said, referring to the pummeling the two-time Super Bowl MVP absorbed in last season’s NFC Championship at the hands of the 49ers. "I mean, it’s not something you want. This is our job to keep him upright and clearly he’s shown what he can do if we do keep him upright. It’s a horrible feeling when you have to see your quarterback’s jersey stained all over and see him looking banged up after the game – it’s not a good thing." Read more...

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    NFL Week 4: Game probabilities are back

    http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2.../?ref=football

    Excerpt: "This is the fourth season I’ve been invited to share my game probabilities with Fifth Down readers, so it might be time for a short refresher course. The model I use to predict outcomes is based on team efficiency stats and home field advantage. The overall idea behind the model is to tune things to predict the future rather than explain the past. The distinction may seem subtle, but it’s the key to accuracy and understanding how the sport really works.

    The most predictive stat is team net passing yards per attempt. “Net” means that sack yards are factored in to the average. Both offensive and defensive pass efficiency are of equal consequence, but offensive efficiency is more consistent. If you just looked at those two stats alone, you’d have a fairly good prediction model for the N.F.L.

    Turnovers matter a great deal in determining winners, but turnover rates aren’t as predictive of future outcomes because they don’t tend to be consistent for teams from week to week. I use offensive and defensive interception rates and offensive fumble rates in the model, but they are not weighted as heavily as you might think.

    Running obviously matters, but not in the same way as passing. The model uses running “success rate” instead of yards per carry to represent each team’s running ability. Success rate is the percentage of run plays in which a team’s down-distance-yard-line situation is improved. This is better than yards per carry because of how many run plays are designed for short gains. A 2-yard gain on third-and-1 or fourth-and-1 would hurt a team’s yards per carry average, but success rate would recognize it as a positive play." Read more...

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    Giants' Antrel Rolle misses practice

    http://www.giants101.com/2012/09/27/...h-knee-injury/

    Excerpt: "On Wednesday, New York Giants head coach Tom Coughlin said it was going to be nearly impossible to keep safety Antrel Rolle from practicing despite dealing with a badly bruised and cut knee. His assessment proved accurate as Rolle participated on a limited basis, but he was seen limping noticeably after practice. On Thursday, it was a totally different story and the veteran was nowhere to be seen during the portion of practice that was open to the media." Read more...



    Despite early success, Martellus Bennett is looking to improve

    http://www.giants101.com/2012/09/27/...ng-to-improve/

    Excerpt: "The New York Giants signed Martellus Bennett away from their biggest rivals, the Dallas Cowboys, as a solution to a rash of injuries to their tight ends. Though Bennett saw limited playing time in Dallas playing behind Jason Witten, the Giants were confident he could be a starting tight end in the NFL. So far this season, Bennett has proven them right, putting up numbers better than the majority of starting tight ends in the league. But Bennett is unimpressed with his play and believes there is plenty of room for improvement." Read more...


    Giants' Eli Manning, Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz assess Philadelphia Eagles' matchuo

    http://www.giants101.com/2012/09/26/...agles-matchup/

    Excerpt: "With Cam Newton and the Carolina Panthers in the rearview and Michael Vick, LeSean McCoy and Jeremy Maclin of the Philadelphia Eagles on deck, we're turning the page around here…moving on from last week's feel-good victory and looking at what should be a tough game on the road for the Giants.

    Despite how bad Philly looked last week getting spanked by the Arizona Cardinals, they always show up to play Big Blue so hopefully the Giants don't get caught in a trap. Tomorrow morning we'll have our Insider post with the guys from Eagles101.com giving us a scouting report, but for now let's hear what the Giants players themselves have to say about the Eagles.


    First up: Eli Manning, who sees a defense that tries to do the same old thing but in a new way." Read more...


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    NT Giants' news and notes: Thursday edition

    http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/9/27...n-about-philly

    Excerpt: "
    Good morning, New York Giants' fans! Here is your Thursday morning notebook.

    Hakeem Nicks
    'Looking forward to Philly"


    After sitting out last Thursday due to lingering issues with the foot he broke during the offseason, wide receiver Hakeem Nicks is expecting to play against the Eagles.

    "I'm definitely looking forward to Philly. Obviously a big game for us, a rivalry game. They know us, we know them. I'm looking forward to it. My body feels pretty good. I had about a week off, so I'll get out there and practice tomorrow and see how it goes from there," Nicks said. [Full transcript]" Read more...



    NFL Week 4 predictions: Mikey's crystal ball

    http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/9/27...s-crystal-ball

    Excerpt: "Last week, the crystal ball had a crack in it. And it was leaking fluid. After the bleeding stopped, Mikey was left with a scabby, scabby mess. Still, the bad call on Monday night would have been the difference between 5-11 or 4-12. At the same time, I can't imagine anyone having a very good week picking games in Week 3. If you did, more power to you. With that, let's see what the cat dragged in.....

    NY Giants at Philadelphia--Ugh, Cris Collinsworth again. You know he's brushing up on the names of the Eagles' players he's going to praise for three hours on Sunday night. Okay, probably four hours the way these games are going. But I got news for you, Philly--your team is a fumbling, intercepting house of cards. Giants 34, Eagles 28." Read more...

    Giants' Wednesday injury report

    http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/9/26...y-hakeem-nicks

    Excerpt: "
    Jayron Hosley, the rookie cornerback who has started the past two games, was probably the only surprise among players who did not practice today for the New York Giants. Head coach Tom Coughlin said Hosley's hamstring injury means there is a "good chance" Prince Amukamara will start Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles." Read more...


    Giants-Eagles: Philadelphia scouting report

    http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/9/26...ick/in/3169859

    Excerpt: "The Philadelphia Eagles and New York Giants face off for the first time this year on Sunday Night Football with both teams entering the game at 2-1. The narrative is well known around these parts, the Eagles as of recently have dominated the New York Giants winning 7 of their last 8 matchups. While the Giants have infinitely more Super Bowl championships than the Eagles have (or as an Eagles fan might say "a few more lucky wins"). Regardless of the outcomes, the games have recently been exciting and close. I'd expect much of the same this week. Let's take a look at how the Eagles have been playing this year from a statistical perspective. Later in the week I'll unveil my "Beyond the Box Score" for the Eagles after I finish watching all three of their first games." Read more...


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    Bradshaw discusses neck injury

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/gia...es-neck-injury

    Excerpt: "Ahmad Bradshaw revealed the nature of his neck injury and said it involves a disk.

    The Giants' running back said his injury involved a bulge before likening it to an inflamed disk. He said he feels great and has no symptoms but admits it could flare up again.

    "I don't know ... bulge, maybe?" Bradshaw said when asked what his injury is specifically. "I don't know."

    "They can't do anything, just let it heal," he added when asked about how to treat it. "It is pretty much like an inflamed disk. And it is just sitting right on the spinal cord I guess, and the swelling went down and I feel fine now. There are no setbacks, no problems." Read more...

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    Giants plan to ride the hot hand at running back

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-back/related/

    Excerpt: "The Giants expect to have Ahmad Bradshaw back in the lineup against the Eagles on Sunday night, but it sounds like he’s going to have to deal with the injury that kept him out of last week’s game for the rest of the season.

    Bradshaw’s injury was described as a neck problem, but the running back went into a bit more detail on Thursday. It’s actually an inflamed disc that’s sitting right on Bradshaw’s spinal cord and it is an injury that Bradshaw says wasn’t caused by the hit by Buccaneers linebacker Mason Foster that directly preceded his departure from that game in Week Two." Read more...

    PFT's week 4 picks

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...cks-3/related/

    Excerpt: "In hindsight, I shouldn’t have complained about the Monday night debacle.

    After all, I picked the Seahawks to win by a point and, thanks to the replacement officials, Seattle won by two. Since MDS picked the Pack, it allowed me to win the weekly contest with MDS by two, 9-7 versus 7-9.

    Given the crazy, upside-down games from Week Three, I’ll take a winning record and run with it — as quickly as the Seahawks ran with their unwarranted win.

    For the season, I’m now 27-21, and MDS is 26-22."

    Giants at Eagles

    MDS’s take: The Eagles need to bounce back in a big way after laying an egg against the Cardinals. I think they’re going to, with Michael Vick finally making it through a game without a turnover.
    MDS’s pick: Eagles 24, Giants 21.Florio’s take: Eagles coach Andy Reid does his best work when his back is against the wall. And his back is already against the wall. And he said just enough this week to put his quarterback’s back against the wall, too.

    Florio’s pick: Eagles 27, Giants 24. " Read more...
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    Power rankings: Week 4

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    Excerpt: "The upsets keep rolling in the NFL and our team of Power Rankers continue to scratch their heads in disbelief.

    But with three games gone we’re getting to the stage now where performances can’t be ignored. It’s why our team is slowly coming round to the idea that the Cardinals could be for real, is losing faith in the New Orleans Saints powers of recovery, and is starting to think that maybe Ryan Kalil wasted some money in buying ad space that declared the Panthers Super Bowl bound.

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    NFL hands out hefty fines for Belichick and Kyle Shanahan for conduct towwards officials

    http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2...l#incart_river

    Excerpt: "The NFL fined Patriots coach Bill Belichick $50,000 and Redskins assistant Kyle Shanahan $25,000 for their conduct toward replacement officials.

    The fines announced today come as the league and its referees' union are meeting amid reports they are close to ending the lockout of the regular officials." Read more...
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    thanks Roanoke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlue1971 View Post
    thanks Roanoke!
    You're welcome
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    Starting to get that little feeling in my stomach-is there a team Giant fans dislike more? Putrid green and white.
    Gameday is near.
    Thanks for the news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Giant View Post
    Starting to get that little feeling in my stomach-is there a team Giant fans dislike more? Putrid green and white.
    Gameday is near.
    Thanks for the news!
    We need to play our game. We know how to contain Vick and he's got to be playing sore after last week. He is bound to be gun shy.
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    thanks or the reads you old *******....
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameTime View Post
    thanks or the reads you old *******....
    You are more than welcome my young(er) friend lol
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    Thanks bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatYale View Post
    Thanks bro.
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