Has Mathias Kiwanuka ever made a big play?

[burier]

Kinda felt this thread needed a proper burial. scroll down to number 32.

http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/10/2...ants-from-1-53

[ny06]

I wish we had 53 players like Kiwi. Does his job, doesn't complain. And mind you, he's a good player.

[gumby74]

How many tackles someone has is a bull **** stat most times anyway...how many missed tackles does he have? how many times have they run the ball his way?how many times has he sealed the edge and forced the play inside? when you can provide those numbers then we will talk about tackles... ?

This. AP lead us in tackles but most of them were 5 yards down the field because he got pushed around like a rag doll.

[burier]

I wish we had 53 players like Kiwi. Does his job, doesn't complain. And mind you, he's a good player.

its not about how good a player he is. Its about him playing out of position because "Linebackers aren't important"

[TroyArcher]

Who knows maybe he will move back to DE again. He has been like a ping pong ball. If Rivers can stay helathy (which does not seem probable) they could consider to move Kiwi back into a DE rotation. I would use Osi as a 3rd down specialist only and it sure seems like Tuck needs to rest quite a bit during a game.

[Captain Chaos]

Kiwi is very good against the run, we just need to get the Line to step up...The talent is certainly there....

[Giant in Texas]

I have no idea why you guys keep saying this....KIWI was one of the top rated linebackers in the NFL vs the run last year......a linebackers job is to defend the run....how is he not doing a good job?.....some just do not get it....as opposed to someone like OSI that makes 3-4 spectacular plays a year and misses the rest...I'll take the guy that makes all the plays and doesn't get the spotlight

Nicely stated, that is exactly what we need more of!

[B&RWarrior]

Kinda felt this thread needed a proper burial. scroll down to number 32.

http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/10/2...ants-from-1-53

The key to that article is that they pointed out Kiwi got only 27 snaps in the Eagles game. If his snap count is similar in the first few games it probably explains the low tackle number. I think the reason he's getting fewer snaps is because he is such a liability versus the pass. I think by the end of last year they took him out on passing downs. LBs have to play the run and the pass. Kiwi never put on the weight or got strong enough to become a dominant DE. So it is what it is. He is a great run stopping backer with great pass rushing skills, but inferior pass coverage skills. He's a good guy to have on your team.

[giantsfam04]

All I keep hearing from some of you is how prolific a run-stuffer Kiwi is. I guess teams are just scared to run at him because he is so dominant. He's a run-stuffer that makes less than two tackles per game and never sacks the QB or gets an INT. Oh and the Giants run defense is bad, but lets blame EVERYBODY else for that. It can't possibly be because one of our starting LBs gets less than 2 tackles per game. It's the other guys who aren't picking up the slack.

Comparing Navaro Bowman to Kiwi is not an accurate way to look at it. Bowman is a true LB not a DE playing out of position, so yes he is naturally going to be a better LB. Also the supporting cast is better around Bowman, football is the ultimate team sport. As for big plays, you play within the system and do your job first, Osi makes a big play and then ****s the bed for the remainder of the game. Give me a guy who plays his keys and knows his assignments first. But to answer your question Kiwi did stop Miami with a sack to win the game last year is that not a big play?

[burier]

The key to that article is that they pointed out Kiwi got only 27 snaps in the Eagles game. If his snap count is similar in the first few games it probably explains the low tackle number. I think the reason he's getting fewer snaps is because he is such a liability versus the pass. I think by the end of last year they took him out on passing downs. LBs have to play the run and the pass. Kiwi never put on the weight or got strong enough to become a dominant DE. So it is what it is. He is a great run stopping backer with great pass rushing skills, but inferior pass coverage skills. He's a good guy to have on your team.

Translation: We drafted a passrusher to take him out of the game on passing downs.