Just saw the Barden play again just now on ESPN32 and noticed something

[moosedrool]

How much time does it take to scan the field for a bright white jersey with no green jerseys around them?

You have no clue what Eli's pre-snap reads were, and are ignoring the fact that we had no timeouts left.

My only beef on the play was trusting Barden in a crucial point in the game. He's no Manningham

[Tmurda1984]

Any1 who blames Eli is crazy. Eli was taking all hits all game long, and he had the Giants in great position to kick a field goal Barden ******ly caused a offensive PI. And who knows, Bennett probably would of bobbled it trying to catch it with one hand. Hakeem Nicks needs to get on the field....and ou Defensive Line needs to do some talking with their shoulder pads....Osi and Tuck is not doing anything.

[TheAnalyst]

And if we run up the gut and get a few yards, we go for a 40 yard fg instead of a 54.

[miked1958]

Any1 who blames Eli is crazy. Eli was taking all hits all game long, and he had the Giants in great position to kick a field goal Barden ******ly caused a offensive PI. And who knows, Bennett probably would of bobbled it trying to catch it with one hand. Hakeem Nicks needs to get on the field....and ou Defensive Line needs to do some talking with their shoulder pads....Osi and Tuck is not doing anything.

im not blaming Eli. Just that the knock on him is stuff like that. Why he doesn't get the respect some of the others get. He has First and goal and throws that terrible pick. And missed a wide open TE for a potential game winning td pass. Even if Bennett doesnt get in there was still plenty of time to clock it and kick the winning FG.

[moosedrool]

And if we run up the gut and get a few yards, we go for a 40 yard fg instead of a 54.

Yea, Bradshaw gets one yard, or there could be a holding penalty, or blah, blah, blah. Coughlin said it best "with our QB we play aggressive in that situation and in the past we've been very successful playing aggressive in that situation".

[miked1958]

Also does anyone remember which game it was that he hit Beatty in hands but missed a wide open Bradshaw? Also on that same series Bennett dropped on other TD pass on the other side of endzone

[Flip Empty]

The clock was running out so he went outside. Standard practice. It's how the play would've been designed.

[miked1958]

Yea, Bradshaw gets one yard, or there could be a holding penalty, or blah, blah, blah. Coughlin said it best "with our QB we play aggressive in that situation and in the past we've been very successful playing aggressive in that situation".

Agreed. Reason why I even brought these two plays up is Eli has shown in past he is perfectly capable of scanning the field and then make the right throw.

Example: playoff game where he looked left, looked right, then through a perfect 50 pass for TD to MM. I think it was the playoff game vs Falcons..

[jaxnygmen]

I think it was a major gamble. I think that the ball was thrown poorly and would have been picked had Barden not grabbed on the play. Saw that Bennett was wide open. I do not think they used Bennett enough this game. We put ourselves in a deep hole in the division so we have to right the wrongs and start executing on all levels.

[miked1958]

The clock was running out so he went outside. Standard practice. It's how the play would've been designed.

But he had time. With barden getting no separation and Namandi all over him, he should of looked elsewhere, may have seen Bennett. Otherwise it would of been best to just throw it away. Then U still have the 44 yarder with one more play before you have to kick