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    In all fairness, I think DD only allowed 1 sack on his side I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy333 View Post
    No he doesn't, but he did play bad and has played bad for a couple of years now. Locklear was having a much better season. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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    He was the fall guy in the game thread and truth is it's total BS. He played as solid as anyone on our OL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudyy View Post
    In all fairness, I think DD only allowed 1 sack on his side I believe.
    You're right. Max a sack and one pressure.

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    [QUOTE=Buddy333;579485]No he doesn't, but he did play bad and has played bad for a couple of years now. Locklear was having a much better season. If it ain't broke don't fix it.[/QUOTE

    Watch the game again and then retract that.

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    You don't find it strange that before he started Eli was not sacked as much as he has been in the last two games. I think you are no Irving him way to much credit. He may not be the sole reason they lost but his play has not been great either.
    Last edited by Buddy333; 11-12-2012 at 11:50 PM.

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    A sack a game is too much... that's like saying...

    'He only had 2 drops'

    depending on when those happen its crucial...

    For instance in the Pittsburgh game when it was 'Eli Time' (the 4th quarter down a score and driving)

    He got beat so bad that Eli couldn't even hit the 5th step of his drop before being sacked.
    Then we never saw the ball again.

    It isn't so much that, he's only giving up 1 sack or only allowing 2-3 pressures...

    It's the fact that when other teams need it, they overload his side and there seems to be almost instant pressure... It isn't just that he gets beat, it is that he gets beat BADLY. A lot of times he doesn't even slow the guy down. He's making mental errors.. for instance one play against Pitt Eli checked Pressure to the weakside and slid Bennet over. Which was the right call... Diehl double-teamed the DT and let the end in untouched and Eli had to rifle a ball at a receivers feet. That type of play is ridiculous for a tackle playing longer than 3-4 seasons not to notice that his outside help was motioned and he's sealing the edge.

    Locklear moves better than Diehl and is stronger than Diehl... Diehl used to have a chest and arms... if you look at him he looks saggy with man titties... he obviously hasn't kept himself in the kind of shape he needs to be in to play tackle... lefr or right... hell not even guard or center. He was never a stud, he's a lunchpail guy that is on the decline... He isn't Jonathon Ogden or Orlando Pace who has bad knees but is otherwise doing ok...

    Not to mention we aren't taking into account that Eli is one of the BEST at getting the ball out and not taking a sack... Numerous times he's about to get rocked and takes a shot throwing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy333 View Post
    You don't find it strange that before he started Eli was not sacked as much as he has been in the last two games. I think you are no Irving him way to much credit. He may not be the sole reason they lost but his play has not been great either.
    Fact remains the pressure came repeatedly from left. I'm only keeping it real.

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    I saw him getting pushed back into the QB. No he didn't give up a sack hat play but it forced the throw. I still think you are going him way to much credit.

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    So he had his first good game since 2010? Let's hope he can build on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYGBandit View Post
    A sack a game is too much... that's like saying...

    'He only had 2 drops'

    depending on when those happen its crucial...

    For instance in the Pittsburgh game when it was 'Eli Time' (the 4th quarter down a score and driving)

    He got beat so bad that Eli couldn't even hit the 5th step of his drop before being sacked.
    Then we never saw the ball again.

    It isn't so much that, he's only giving up 1 sack or only allowing 2-3 pressures...

    It's the fact that when other teams need it, they overload his side and there seems to be almost instant pressure... It isn't just that he gets beat, it is that he gets beat BADLY. A lot of times he doesn't even slow the guy down. He's making mental errors.. for instance one play against Pitt Eli checked Pressure to the weakside and slid Bennet over. Which was the right call... Diehl double-teamed the DT and let the end in untouched and Eli had to rifle a ball at a receivers feet. That type of play is ridiculous for a tackle playing longer than 3-4 seasons not to notice that his outside help was motioned and he's sealing the edge.

    Locklear moves better than Diehl and is stronger than Diehl... Diehl used to have a chest and arms... if you look at him he looks saggy with man titties... he obviously hasn't kept himself in the kind of shape he needs to be in to play tackle... lefr or right... hell not even guard or center. He was never a stud, he's a lunchpail guy that is on the decline... He isn't Jonathon Ogden or Orlando Pace who has bad knees but is otherwise doing ok...

    Not to mention we aren't taking into account that Eli is one of the BEST at getting the ball out and not taking a sack... Numerous times he's about to get rocked and takes a shot throwing...
    damn you need to post more.

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