And I'm not questioning Eli's toughness. He may not look tough but he obviously is tough.
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I have to admit, what I saw of Carr this year was not pretty. But a couple years ago he looked pretty good. Looked like he had a good arm while he has his issues dealing with pressure.
I think you are spot on with your assessment that I put in bold. Phil knew Bill Walsh was interested in him and the feeling was mutual. But I don't think Phil has any regrets about his career. His 86 Super Bowl performance catapulted his career in a sense that the result was that everyone acknowledged him as a legitimate high level QB. Remember, there were many fans who felt Phil could never win the big game. Not only did he prove them wrong with that game, he made them look like complete idiots.
The second Super Bowl definitely hurt. He has said that he felt like an outsider because he wasn't in there helping the team. He felt like like more of a distraction. But I think now he has grown to appreciate that second ring and the roll he played in that season. No doubt in my mind he'd be a shoe-in for Canton had he been the winning QB in the game.
I've read one of Phil's books where he discussed what it's like getting hit as a football player. So I stand by my comments.
I didn't say Eli openly worries about getting hit. He tries to avoid getting hit more so than Phil did. But I've watched Eli (this year) throw off his back foot when he had no immediate danger. It was apparent that he was reacting to pressure that didn't truly exist. Think it was against the Cowboys...
But if you think I'm off base then let me ask you this: why did our GM call him skittish just a few years ago?
Reese called him skittish around this time of year in 2007..and it was in reference to his play at that particular time. As everyone knows he wasnt playing this best football..and thats what he was commenting on...he wasnt branding him and he refused to talk about it further because he saw how the media put such a magnified negative spin on what he said. You cant really blame the media for it though, but he sure as hell hasnt called him skittish since... its funny how thats some sort of "ace up the sleeve" to pull out as though it means something.
Please share Simms' comments - not being sarcastic, truly interested.
The thing I recall about Phil's comments was that as a player you get this 'tough-guy' mentality in which you get a charge out of withstanding those hits. As the season progresses you become desensitized to it as your body actually gets used to the abuse. Of course looking back on it now, Phil has said that he has wondered how his career might have been different had he played the way Eli plays.
Phil never took a step back. He defied hits, knowingly stepping into big hits many times every game, just to complete a pass with the best follow through. Eli starts moving his weight backwards, often throwing off of the wrong foot, as he minimizes the hit. I don't for one second think Eli is afraid... he's simply trying to minimize his body... his consecutive games played is testimony to that. Phil was often injured.
This may be the thread that goes into the guinness book of records. I sat in those stands watching Mr. Simms and he was often inconsistent and I watched Parcells go redder in the face than TC when Simms got to the sidelines. I've heard Simms before make those kind of comments about his former team. He won the 86 SB and Hostetler won the playoffs and SB in '90. Guess who helped Simms stay in games. Yes Taylor and the rest of the 'lights out' defense. Carl Banks does commentary as well and tells it like it is but he provides excellent insight on why the play didn't devolpe and how it could have worked. I never heard him say anything like Simms does.