Phil Simms: "No, Eli Is Not One Of The Elites....."

[stormblue]

May i ask who you are that you know my initials?

sorry , i can't divulge that information over the webernet.

[YATittle1962]

Right now...Ben IS better than Eli.

Now let the games begin.

right now Ben is on the sideline until further notice

Charlie Batch anyone?

[stormblue]

not so fast there .....

there were plays in that 1990 playoff run that Hoss made with his legs that were game changing

some in the SB game as well

plays I am not sure Simms would have made

do I think Hostetler was a better QB than Simms? absolutely not

but that playoff run may have looked a bit different without him in there

that 49er team was tough ....and Phil struggled a bit against them earlier that season

thats not to say Phil would have lost that game......but Hoss did a great job fighting for first downs with his legs when he needed to ......and threw some balls dead on the money when he needed to as well

even with Phil in that SB game it very well may have come down to a FG......earlier in the season the Giants lost to the Bills 17-13 in a game where Simms and Hoss both struggled

I think Hoss even looked a bit better than Simms that day coming off the bench cold as an ice cube

i'm sorry YA , but we have had previous QB discussions and i can't go there with you.
it is pointless , your idol threw more interceptions than touchdowns and i therefor disagree with your QB judgement....
not to say that you are wrong.....just saying we obviously disagree on this one also......
so there is no point for us to converse any more on this matter.

i think Simms woulda kicked their ice-bucket , you don't ......that's fine.

[YATittle1962]

i'm sorry YA , but we have had previous QB discussions and i can't go there with you.
it is pointless , your idol threw more interceptions than touchdowns and i therefor disagree with your QB judgement....
not to say that you are wrong.....just saying we obviously disagree on this one also......
so there is no point for us to converse any more on this matter.

i think Simms woulda kicked their ice-bucket , you don't ......that's fine.

why didn't he kick their ice bucket a few weeks earlier ?


...and look at YAs 3 yr stats with the Giants because that is all I judge him by ....I didn't even know he existed when he was a 49er

his last season is a throw away.....he could barely walk

he was fantastic as a Giant

[bigjeep]

why didn't he kick their ice bucket a few weeks earlier ?


...and look at YAs 3 yr stats with the Giants because that is all I judge him by ....I didn't even know he existed when he was a 49er

his last season is a throw away.....he could barely walk

he was fantastic as a Giant

And I agree with you! I never heard of Tittle until he came to the Giants! Sadly, we ran into the Packers twice. I still consider the Lombardi Packers as the best team I have ever watched to this day. The Bears game I was positive we would win ---- until Y.A. got hurt!

[stormblue]

why didn't he kick their ice bucket a few weeks earlier ?


...and look at YAs 3 yr stats with the Giants because that is all I judge him by ....I didn't even know he existed when he was a 49er

his last season is a throw away.....he could barely walk

he was fantastic as a Giant

well , then i can only judge how Simms would have played in a super bowl by his only other attempt at it.
the only question you need to ask is would you have started a healthy Simms over Hoss.

[YATittle1962]

well , then i can only judge how Simms would have played in a super bowl by his only other attempt at it.
the only question you need to ask is would you have started a healthy Simms over Hoss.

absolutely

[alentown pa]

absolutely

Would also like to remind everyone who supports Simms over Eli talking about all he had to overcome in terms of the coaches fans and media. Nobody was tougher mentally than hoss. What that guy endured during his path to super Bowl 25 is amazing.

[Morehead State]

Would also like to remind everyone who supports Simms over Eli talking about all he had to overcome in terms of the coaches fans and media. Nobody was tougher mentally than hoss. What that guy endured during his path to super Bowl 25 is amazing.

OK I respectfully disagree with that. He didn't have the stomach for Bill Parcells. He said that he told his wife that he wanted to quit the game in the middle of the 90 season because he wasn't starting. Like he should start over Phil Simms.
I always thought he was weak in that respect.

[Roosevelt]

There is no objective nor quantitative definition to elite, that's what makes this thread hilarious.

That's like having trouble understanding what the meaning of is is.