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    News, notes, rumors, and gossip: Wednesday, November 14, 2012

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    NEWARK STAR LEDGER


    A Look Back At The Giants' 31 - 13 Loss To The Bengals

    Excerpt: "The Giants had incentive in Cincinnati Sunday: to bounce back from last week’s disappointing Steelers loss, to head into the bye on a positive note, to not lose ground in the NFC East.

    “In a perfect world, yeah,” safety Antrel Rolle said. “But for whatever reason, our heads weren’t in it (Sunday) as a team. You can’t put a performance like that on film, you can’t put it on film. We have six weeks to get back to the game, but this one is going to hang around for a couple of weeks.”

    The Giants came out as flat as the Paul Brown Stadium crowd in the 31-13 loss to the Bengals. Most notable were the continued struggles of Eli Manning and the passing game -- Manning has now thrown a career-long 99 passes without a touchdown, trumping a previous 84-pass stretch in 2010 -- but there were breakdowns in all three phases of the game.

    Rolle’s comment is a strong one, and the Giants certainly did not look like their heads were in the game, despite a week of practice many players said was purposeful and energetic. They have a full week off for the bye, a long enough break to get their heads back in it before a difficult six-game stretch.

    The Giants are still atop the NFC East, but Dallas is just 1.5 games back, and can continue to make up ground with a win against the Browns next week." Read more...


    Giants' Antrel Rolle On Loss To Bengals

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    Excerpt: "The Giants have heard their share of past opponents take blame for their losses instead of crediting the Giants for their wins. The group includes Packers linebacker Clay Matthews, after the Giants' NFC Championship win in January, and Redskins cornerback DeAnglo Hall, following the Giants' comeback victory in Week 7.

    The Giants view the opinions as slights and use them as motivation.

    Well, today Antrel Rolle was guilty of doing exactly that when he was asked what went wrong in Sunday's 31-13 blowout loss to the Bengals.

    "They didn't do anything remarkable. We gave them at least 21 of those points, easily," Rolle said in a radio interview on WFAN. "It's something that can easily be fixed and something that we know we were wrong 100 percent of the way. We got to get back to the basics and get back to playing football the way we know how to play football and being a disciplined unit because that's what gave us the run that we went on last season."

    After watching the film Monday, Rolle said the defensive miscues, including A.J. Green's 56-yard touchdown catch on the fifth play of the game, are correctable. Rolle, who blitzed Andy Dalton on the play, admitted it was blown coverage, though he didn't specify the culprit. Defensive coordinator Perry Fewell told reporters Monday that safety Stevie Brown was at fault for not being over the top as cornerback Corey Webster expected because he bit on the run fake." Read more...

    Giants Live Chat With Star-Ledger Beat Writer Jenny Vrentas Wednesday At Noon On NJ.com

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    Excerpt: "As the Giants head into this extended break with the aim of regrouping before a difficult six-game stretch to conclude the regular season, join The Star-Ledger's Giants beat writer, Jenny Vrentas, for a live chat on NJ.com. Beginning Wednesday at noon, Jenny will answer your questions on the Giants. Join the CoverItLive chat below to submit your questions. Until thenkeep up with the Giants on NJ.com." Read more...

    Jenny Vrentas: jvrentas@starledger.com; twitter.com/JennyVrentas


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    NFL Power Rankings: Peyton Manning Passes Brother Eli As Denver Broncos Make big move

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    Excerpt: "Remember when people were fretting over Peyton Manning's arm strength? How ironic that the talk is of little brother's so-called "tired" arm while the old veteran is piling up MVP votes.

    With a convincing win over the Panthers, the Broncos made the biggest move up the Daily News power rankings, up four spots and past the suddenly-slumping Giants into the No. 4 spot. That's where the Giants resided last week before falling to 10th in the wake of their blowout loss in Cincinnati. Meanwhile, the Jets fell within five spots of rock bottom after another miserable performance in Seattle.

    There was also a change at the top, with the 8-1 Texans switching places with the Falcons, who suffered their first loss of the season.

    1. (Last week - 2) Texans (8-1):
    Defense sparks very impressive win at Soldier Field.

    2. (1) Falcons (8-1):
    One loss is no big deal, if they shake it off.


    3. (3) Bears (7-2):
    Question marks return on offense.


    4. (8) Broncos (6-3):
    Everything coming together for them now.


    5. (5) 49ers (6-2-1):
    Alex Smith concussion clouds outlook.


    6. (10) Ravens (7-2):
    Dominant at home but can they beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh?


    7. (6) Packers (6-3):
    OT Bryan Bulaga on IR. Not good.


    8. (9) Steelers (6-3):
    Roethlisberger injury threatens season . . . again.


    9. (7) Patriots (6-3):
    Allow 500 yards of offense in shootout win. Issues remain.


    10. (4) Giants (6-4):
    Two straight losses? It must be November.

    Simms Says Eli Manning Is Not "Elite"

    http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/gia...g-is-not-elite

    Excerpt: "Eli Manning made it clear last season that he considers himself one of the “elite” quarterbacks in the NFL.

    Phil Simms disagrees.

    The former Giants quarterback shot down that “elite” theory on Monday night in an appearance on CBS Sports Network’s NFL Monday QB show. And he didn’t just blame Manning’s current slump, or his poor performance in the Giants’ 31-13 loss in Cincinnati on Sunday either.

    “No, he is not one of the elites,” Simms said in quotes distributed by CBS. “Because when I hear the word elite, I’m thinking about guys that can make unbelievable plays on the field by themselves. There are very few quarterbacks in that category.

    “So yes, Eli has been a tremendous team player. He has been MVP of the Super Bowl twice. I know that. But the way I look at it, the answer is no.”

    It’s hard to argue considering the way Manning has played lately. He has topped 215 passing yards only once in the last five games, and over the past three games he’s had no touchdowns and four interceptions. In his ninth NFL season, the Giants quarterback has dipped into one of the worst slumps of his career." Read more...


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    No Simple Solution For Giants' Offense

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giant...mHZOi0GGnT6DRO

    Excerpt: "There is no one player who represents the back slide the Giants have taken as an offense, although Eli Manning always is front-and-center, and thus the logical poster boy for this annual November demise.

    Heck, Manning has thrown a career-long 99 consecutive passes without a touchdown, making him Exhibit A. But take a look at Martellus Bennett when it comes to linking what’s happened to a player and what’s happened to the unit.

    Bennett caught touchdown passes in his first three games for the Giants, and it looked as if the 6-foot-6 tight end was going to be an end-zone target on a weekly basis. He hasn’t scored in the past seven games, as opponents watched, learned and adjusted.

    “He’s not any less of a target than he has been,’’ tight ends coach Mike Pope said. “After those first few games, people have been battering him off the line of scrimmage and made it harder on him.“That is a badge of courage for a player, but it’s on the player and us as a coaching staff to respond and keep him as the weapon he was earlier in the year.’’

    There it is, the key to the remainder of the season for the Giants, provided by the wizened Pope. It is on the players and also the coaching staff to respond. The offense is broken and must be fixed. The repairs will not include a batch of new parts, because the best players are playing — although at some point rookie David Wilson has got to get the ball in his hands as a running back, and would it kill anyone to put Ramses Barden out there in the red zone?" Read more...

    Eli Manning Shrugs Off Slump Heading Into BYE

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giant...ApI8rZkScFkdcN

    Excerpt: "Eli Manning is not going to pick up a football again until Monday, and he insists he’s not planning on thinking much about it, either.

    “Probably not,’’ the slip-sliding Giants franchise quarterback said yesterday. “It’s a time I’m going to try to catch up on some rest and some sleep and being around my family a little bit and really just try to take some time off and put it away, so when we do come back I’m ready to go.’’

    How ready Manning is for the final six games of the season largely will determine whether the Super Bowl champions make it back to the playoffs to make another title run.

    At 6-4, the Giants have lost two straight but own a 1 1/2-game lead on their closest rival in the NFC East, the Cowboys. Based strictly on math, the Giants have the best shot at winning their division, but based on the product they have put on the field in November, the Giants as a team and Manning as a player look nothing like contenders.

    A day after an alarmingly listless and ineffective 31-13 loss to the Bengals, Manning was probed and prodded by question after question — about his mental and physical status, his glaringly poor play of late and the state of the team he’s carried to two Super Bowl triumphs in the past five seasons. Despite the skid, Tom Coughlin did not change his mind and gave the players off until Monday — six full days." Read more...

    Giants' Annual Swoons Leave Coughlin Bitter

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/giant...u6objzAQR00pHJ

    Excerpt: "What has happened to the Giants in the past two games — accentuated by their abysmal 31-13 loss to the mediocre Bengals on Sunday in Cincinnati — is very much in line with the second halves the eight previous years of Coughlin’s reign as head coach.

    If you include their current 0-2 slide after they compiled a 6-2 record in the first half, the Giants have a 27-39 record in the second half of seasons under Coughlin as they enter their bye this week. In the first half of those seasons, the Giants are 53-19.

    The trend is curious, but not as confounding as Coughlin making like he has ignored the matter.When asked yesterday whether he has taken time to research why this keeps happening to his teams,

    Coughlin said, “I haven’t, no.’’

    Asked whether he has an explanation for why it has become a yearly thing, he deflected the question with self-deprecation, saying, “I’m sure it’s me.’’

    Coughlin and the Giants can sweep the trend under the carpet as unrelated to what’s happened the past two weeks, but the numbers do not lie. In Coughlin’s eight seasons with the Giants before this year, the team never has had a better record in the second eight games than in the first eight.

    The Giants have, of course, gotten away with the second-half slumps twice in the past five years to rally for Super Bowl wins. Last year, for example, the Giants got off to the same 6-2 start they had this year, went 3-5 in the second half — then won the Super Bowl anyway.

    “My standard answer for last year was it didn’t come out too bad,’’ Coughlin said. “I’ll stick with that.’’ Read more...


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    Stapleton: Giants Need Top Sever Ties With 2011

    http://www.northjersey.com/sports/17...2011_team.html

    Excerpt: "The Giants have promised not to panic, essentially because they have been in this situation before.
    That is all we keep hearing, and to some extent it’s understandable, considering how last season ended with confetti falling inside Lucas Oil Stadium in Super Bowl XLVI.

    But if the reigning Super Bowl champions are going to take a good long look in the mirror this week, as Tom Coughlin, Justin Tuck and others suggested they would, they also need to remember just how difficult that road to a coronation was.

    The predicament in which the Giants find themselves has very little connection to the one from which they rallied to win the franchise’s fourth Vince Lombardi Trophy.

    Which is why the Giants of 2012 would be best served to completely sever ties with the Giants of 2011 during this next week or so, forgetting that even took place.

    These Giants guarded against a Super Bowl hangover in training camp and during the early part of the regular season, and they seemed to handle the turning-of-the-page portion of a new year surprisingly well.

    That challenge promises to be even greater going forward, however, mainly due to the fact that this is the part of the season when teams – championship teams – dig deeper than the rest of the league and find the motivation to do whatever it takes to get better in every single facet, week to week.

    Just because they previously fought back doesn’t mean a repeat performance is destined." Read more...

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    Here We Go Again: Is Eli ELite?

    http://newyork.sbnation.com/new-york...k-giants-elite

    Excerpt: "Eli Manning has played poorly in the last four New York Giants' game. You could even say putridly in the last two as the one high-flying Giants have lost two straight to stumble to 6-4, turning the NFC East into a race once again with the Dallas Cowboys.

    Manning's inexplicable poor play has been a big part of the reason for the slide. In addition to being a big part of the reason for the Giants' slide, however, Manning's struggles have done something else. They have resuscitated the 'is Manning an elite quarterback' conversation.

    Former Giants' quarterback Phil Simms takes the "not elite" stance.

    “No, he is not one of the elites,” Simms said in quotes distributed by CBS. “Because when I hear the word elite, I’m thinking about guys that can make unbelievable plays on the field by themselves. There are very few quarterbacks in that category.

    “So yes, Eli has been a tremendous team player. He has been MVP of the Super Bowl twice. I know that. But the way I look at it, the answer is no.”

    Former San Diego Chargers' quarterback Dan Fouts takes "yes, he is elite" stance.

    “You can’t spell elite without Eli,” Fouts said. “The pressure situations that Eli has thrived in over his short career, in my mind, make him an elite quarterback, because that is when you’re judged. How well do you do when the pressure is on, when you’ve got to win the game?

    “And all you have to do is look back at his two Super Bowl wins and the way he beat the Patriots. I have to give him a nod and say Eli is elite.”

    So, here we go again. Which side are you on? Is Manning an elite quarterback or isn't he?" Read more...


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    Week 10 Power Rankings

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    Excerpt: "
    1. Texans (six first-place votes): Jay Cutlerran into Tim Dobbins the same way Joe Theismann ran into Lawrence Taylor.
    2. Falcons: The Saints helped the Falcons get some national media attention.3. Ravens: They may need some of those 55 points over the next three games, two of which come against the Steelers.4. 49ers: Colin Kaepernick has shown he’s caepable of helping this team win. (Yes, that was laeme.)5. Packers: How many injuries to offensive players can they endure? As many that don’t happen to Aaron Rodgers.6. Bears: The Superfans are bracing for a second annual Superslide.7. Patriots: If this team keeps blowing fourth-quarter leads in the regular season, it may not have to worry about blowing another fourth-quarter lead in the Super Bowl.8. Broncos: If Trindon Holliday ever drops the ball before crossing the goal line again, Peyton Manning will put it in a place where it will never fall out.9. Steelers: By the end of the week, Ben Roethlisberger will claim that doctors thought about amputating his arm.10. Colts: That five-day neckbeard makes Andrew Luck look like Wooly Willy.
    11. Giants: Eli Manning doesn’t have a tired arm; his arm is in a coma." Read more...

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    Jets Waive OLB Aaron Maybin, Sign RB Khalil Bell

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    Riethlisberger Questionable With Shoulder Sprain

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    Thanks RF!
    Now it is just the waiting, wondering if it can be fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Giant View Post
    Thanks RF!
    Now it is just the waiting, wondering if it can be fixed.
    I hate BYE weeks lol
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    how does team have as many games as thtis team has over the years where they lack total focus?? Ok so the first quarter is done....pull your heads out of your asses and play the ****ing game!!!!!!! A whole game???.....come on man
    thanks Ro.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameTime View Post
    how does team have as many games as thtis team has over the years where they lack total focus?? Ok so the first quarter is done....pull your heads out of your asses and play the ****ing game!!!!!!! A whole game???.....come on man thanks Ro.....
    It's a mystery to me
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    thanks Roanoke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlue1971 View Post
    thanks Roanoke!
    You're welcome
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    Thanks. If Eli can't be MVP this season then Peyton would be my next favorite to win it. Love the guy as long as he is not playing against us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashleymarie View Post
    Thanks. If Eli can't be MVP this season then Peyton would be my next favorite to win it. Love the guy as long as he is not playing against us.
    Peyton is blazing a trail
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