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    Eli's having a long stretch of really bad games. It's making everyone wonder if 2011 was just a fluke. Deal with it, and stop crying and making sorry excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYG4lifeNYK View Post
    Eli takes SO MUCH ridicule from NFL fans and as sickening as it sounds Giants fans. Eli is absolutely a ****ing ELITE QB in the this league. If you doubt it you're a moron, point blank period. A few poor games because of this miserable offense and now even Giants fans are doubting him? Talk about wishy-washy fans.... it was only a couple of weeks ago everyone was praising his name.


    Kevin Gilbride(while he's a good OC for the most part) calls some of the most predictable, asinine play calling I have ever seen. He runs it on 1st down, 2nd down and then we're forced to throw it on 3rd down.... Geeee well isn't that just tailed made for success? It's no wonder we have one of the WORST red zone offenses in the NFL. (We are the 27th red zone scoring offense)

    Add on that Tom Coughlin holds his loyalty to a washed up once upon a time great O-linemen who now couldn't block a statue if it fell on him. We also have one of the most anemic run games in the league because we hold our loyalty to a guy with 17 foot procedures on each foot and thus has speed comparable to that everyone claimed Jacobs had...or didn't have.



    We have a top 5 receiver that cannot stay or get healthy for the life of him and thus has SERIOUSLY hindered this offense. We have a QB who isn't predominant on targeting his brand name receivers.

    We have a STUD top 10 receiver that can't a catch a pass even if it's a bread basket one over the shoulder for a TD. As great as Cruz is and he is GREAT he struggles sometimes with concentration and or focus.



    If Eli had an offense like GB, or NE, N.O. or the "Peyton offense" (where he can do what he wants when he wants) Eli would have 20 TD's already or damn close to it and less TD's I guaran-damn-tee you that.


    When was the last time you saw us run the no huddle to get a rhythm going? Hell when was the last time you saw us run the no huddle when we were down this season? About as rare as a two dollar bill.




    Few games where he plays poorly(Rodgers, Brady, Peyton, Brees are all exempt from their bad games I guess?) and he's not longer elite. Lol, OK. . .


    Our offense is not made for a QB to have sexy stats. We run, run, run even when the run is getting 0-3 yards all game. We have an EXTREMELY predictable offense. Our offense is predicated on the receivers beating their man. It's not easy to throw on 3rd down all the time when the offense knows you're going to throw. We very RARELY throw it in the red zone.(We have one of the worst red zone offenses in the league because we run it on 1st and 2nd down and then we're forced to throw on 3rd) There's no play action because there's zero threat of a run. The pass protection has been atrocious at times and most recently during this "poor" stretch. Victor Cruz has gone m.i.a. unless he's dropping a breadbasket TD catch. Nicks isn't healthy and hasn't been all season, thus he's been invisible. Martellus Bennett Has a Torn Knee Capsule Bruised ACL & PCL(suffered in week 5 vs Browns).

    Eli has made some poor decisions the past few weeks and it's mainly because of atrocious O-line play and a struggling receiving corps to boot. The O-line ever since Diehl has returned has been abysmal...Snee, Baas all of them pretty much. Diehl allowed 3 sacks alone Sunday.

    Eli trying to make a play makes a bad decision and pays for it.

    This is total nonsense.
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    There is alot to be desired with the system Gilbride runs. When Eli is on fire, the offense is very difficult to stop. But I personally think that Eli is much better than the system he operates in.
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    oh stop...

    what happens when Eli and he offense does well......obvioulsy they can handle it...

    So the offense only isnt friendly when they are sucking????
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    Quote Originally Posted by GameTime View Post
    oh stop...

    what happens when Eli and he offense does well......obvioulsy they can handle it...

    So the offense only isnt friendly when they are sucking????
    I thought when they were sucking it was friendly OH WAIT
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    I thought when they were sucking it was friendly OH WAIT
    "Measure Twice......Cut Once"
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    Eli cannot have success when his O-line does not provide enough time in the pocket. Gilbride plays a downfield offense. He has 1 checkdown short route, and the rest are all agressively downfield. His plays need time to develop.

    What is hindering Eli is 1) The offensive line is not giving the play enough time (not just DD, the whole line) and 2) The WR being played man to man, losing the battle, and the safeties are playing over the top because they don't respect our running game.

    I'm not saying Eli couldn't play better, but he is definitely in a poor situation right now, and it's no surprise watching the plays develop that he's not finding a lot of success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VBGiantsFan View Post
    Eli cannot have success when his O-line does not provide enough time in the pocket. Gilbride plays a downfield offense. He has 1 checkdown short route, and the rest are all agressively downfield. His plays need time to develop.
    sometimes there are no check down routes

    for instance the 3rd and 1 play against the Steelers

    this happens quite a bit actually

    I am no Gilbride hater....I actually like the guy

    but a check down route or two would be a wise thing to implement when observing an O line performing the way this line has in recent games

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelousmik View Post
    Great Qb's dont need a run game.
    Never said that as an excuse. What I was talking about is the entire offense. Which cant do anything well right now. Running game included. Coaches gotta figure this out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VBGiantsFan View Post

    I'm not saying Eli couldn't play better, but he is definitely in a poor situation right now, and it's no surprise watching the plays develop that he's not finding a lot of success.
    Not correct. There is equal blame for all. Up until last week Giants were LEAST sacked team in NFL. Why? Good OL play but also Eli getting rid of ball quickly throwing it away or dumping it off. Also short passes are a part of the offense. So it is not true that the passing game is all downfield. In addition, Eli's accuracy took a definite turn for the worse about three games ago when he was still being protected. So it is not all on the line even though they had a terrible game last week. What has happened to Eli's accuracy? He probably doesn't know himself. Last year he was deadly accurate and also during the first six games this year. Hope he can get it back soon. I'm not saying it's all on him but he is definitely a factor. Unfortunately our WRs have also slumped in the same last few games so with two simultaneous problems the passing game has essentially gone to hell. Special teams and defense allowed us to win a couple of those games and almost win another one. Of course, last week everybody played horrible and that game has the boards buzzing. We'll have to see whether that was just a hiccup or a premonition of dark days ahead.

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