hey , you love the guy....thus the avatar.
i can respect that.
and i'm not gonna change my mind ,
so i'll just STFU and let you be.
hey , you love the guy....thus the avatar.
i can respect that.
and i'm not gonna change my mind ,
so i'll just STFU and let you be.
the pen is said to be mightier than the sword.....
but when is the last time your sword ran out of ink ?
I respect your opinion my manOriginally Posted by stormblue
but if you saw the man play you would understand my stance more I assure you
my love for the player is not strictly romantic nostalgia .......I love him because he was one hell of a QB who brought an electric excitement into this city for years
when YA was in the game you always felt like you had a chance to win
very similar to Eli today
i can honestly say that Simms is the only Giants QB i ever saw play live.
and it was actually in the Astrodome....he ripped them a new ice-hole.
also 11 is the only signed jersey in my collection.
i could very well be biased in my assessments.
the pen is said to be mightier than the sword.....
but when is the last time your sword ran out of ink ?
He broke the touchdown passing record one season if I remember right! Also the pass receivers could be hit and blocked until the ball was in the air. I wonder how many QB's today would have half the numbers with those rules?
Giants fan since '58
All that said and done, I'm not sure today's game has better entertainment value than YA's era. The frequency and severity of today's injuries--the trend will kill the game. It's simple physics. Velocity x mass = force. Today a 250# guy can run like a sprinter. The collision impact is producing concussions at an alarming rate. It will be like watching movies without stars. Personally I question how far you can go with rules to protect players, Given that I don't see players giving up speed, and it doesn't look like they have equipment solutions, but conceivably you could introduce weight limits. Sound crazy. Go watch a Bud Wilkinson Oklahoma line block. They averaged about 185 pounds. Go watch any 330 pound NFL team block today. Compared to Wilkinson's teams, todays players just kind of get in each other's way.
Hey Stormblue... How did that all work? Was that when Don Heinrich, the #3 QB would play the first guarter and Chuckin Charlie or YA would play the rest of the game. But you are absolutely right. YA Tittle going vertical to Del Shofner was a thing of beauty.
I agree with YA's assessment that YA, Eli, and Phil were 3 very great QB's, and why bother comparing or setting a rank.
Beyond them you must put Charlie Conerly as a close 2nd to those 3.
Then, I think you'd have to put Tarkenton...
Then, Collins.
So, I have Collins rated 6th
As far as Simms mobility... no question he was the fastest and most mobile between he, YA, and Eli... but he was a statue in the pocket and rarely looked to run. YA was actually surprisingly mobile in vid clips I've seen of him palying with the 49ers in his early years.
Heinrich was never a teammate of YA
and yeah for some reason Jim Lee Howell loved for Heinrich to start the game then put Charlie in ......not sure anyone ever understood why.... including the players and other coaches
during Tittles first season with the Giants Conerly would often come in if YA was struggling
and yes YA to Shofner was quite a sight
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