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    Quote Originally Posted by Kendo15 View Post
    Yes he was.

    Quick question, how many rookie starters in SB42?

    I know, I know, injuries, but still, they were there.
    Actually the rookies that played that season were not in there due to injuries other than Bradshaw for Ward and Boss for Shockey. However both Bradshaw and Boss were seeing playing time before those injuries anyway,
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    two words for the OP: Eli Manning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy333 View Post
    Is this another "Wilson should be playing more" rant?
    Could be! The giants give rookies plenty of chances. TT went down, and we had tons of rookies filling in for him, so I am not sure what this argument is about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cva14 View Post
    IMHO Coughlin can do this when he wants to, but only when he has exhausted all other options. Poor Andy Reid is suffering, but he seems to get more out of rookie, offensive skill players than anyone else, and a lot of other coaches seem to get more earlier from their top picks. TC sets up a self-fulfilling prophecy. He doesn't like rookie mistakes and he favors veteran players. If he communicates that thought, and he has and he does, rookie players, in fact no player, will respond well to reduced/diminished expectations. The other half of the story is, of course they won't get the opportunity to develop and consequently their development is ******ed.

    Is this an anachronistic policy? In my opinion yes. Given the short life expectancy of an NFL career, you just can't have 20% of your team playing suicide squad or warming the bench. And given the injury casualty rate, and the frequency and severity of injuries in today's game, you need to have confidence that you can play your rookies in the second half of the season and win with them.

    Admittedly this is a matter of degree and I think TC is a very good coach, but this appears to be an area of concern with Tom. Furthermore, given Reese's penchant for picking raw talent (aka "projects"), IMHO he hasn't exactly got the right coach for that strategy.

    What are your thoughts?
    i think you missed the 2007 season

    Rookies get the chance when they earn it

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    Hosley has played a bunch.

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    These are the rookies we had out our team the year of the superbowl:

    26 DJ Ware 22 1 0 225 6-1 Georgia 2/10/1985 Rook 0
    71 Dave Tollefson 26 6 0 263 6-4 NW Missouri St. 5/19/1981 Rook 0 Green Bay Packers / 7th / 253rd pick / 2006
    12 Steve Smith 22 5 0 195 6-0 USC 5/6/1985 Rook 1 New York Giants / 2nd / 51st pick / 2007
    31 Aaron Ross 25 LCB 15 9 193 6-1 Texas 9/15/1982 Rook 5 New York Giants / 1st / 20th pick / 2007
    19 Anthony Mix 24 4 0 235 6-5 Auburn 1/20/1983 Rook 0
    88 Michael Matthews 24 te 16 6 270 6-4 Georgia Tech 10/9/1983 Rook 2
    43 Michael Johnson 23 fs 16 5 205 6-3 Arizona 5/9/1984 Rook 3 New York Giants / 7th / 224th pick / 2007
    87 Domenik Hixon 23 wr 12 1 192 6-2 Akron 10/8/1984 Rook 1 Denver Broncos / 4th / 130th pick / 2006
    24 Robert Douglas 25 1 0 237 6-1 Memphis 7/25/1982 Rook 0
    51 Zak DeOssie 23 16 0 245 6-4 Brown 5/24/1984 Rook 1 New York Giants / 4th / 116th pick / 2007
    30 Craig Dahl 22 db 9 2 207 6-1 North Dakota St. 6/7/1985 Rook 1
    44 Ahmad Bradshaw 21 KR 12 0 195 5-11 Marshall 3/19/1986 Rook 1 New York Giants / 7th / 250th pick / 2007
    89 Kevin Boss 23 te 13 2 255 6-7 Western Oregon 1/11/1984 Rook 2 New York Giants / 5th / 153rd pick / 2007
    93 Jay Alford 24 16 0 280 6-2 Penn St. 5/28/1983 Rook 1 New York Giants / 3rd / 81st pick / 2007

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattMeyerBud View Post
    i think you missed the 2007 season

    Rookies get the chance when they earn it
    These threads get so damned tiring, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy333 View Post
    Is this another "Wilson should be playing more" rant?
    There is validity in the argument. Poor guy got a chance on opening night vs. Cowpokes and gave it away, killing a drive. He's been in the dog house ever since. I trust the coach and his staff, but they may have been a bit heavy handed in how they treat Wilson.

    Considering Bradshaw's been putting the ball on the ground lately, the kid might work his way back into getting some more touches. Can't argue with his speed. Hits the hole quick. Just has to keep the football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomt View Post
    There is validity in the argument. Poor guy got a chance on opening night vs. Cowpokes and gave it away, killing a drive. He's been in the dog house ever since. I trust the coach and his staff, but they may have been a bit heavy handed in how they treat Wilson.

    Considering Bradshaw's been putting the ball on the ground lately, the kid might work his way back into getting some more touches. Can't argue with his speed. Hits the hole quick. Just has to keep the football.
    In don't think "the fumble" is the issue, at least not any longer. They entrust the kick returns to him and if there is any place on the field you don't want to risk a fumble it's at the opponents end of the field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    In don't think "the fumble" is the issue, at least not any longer. They entrust the kick returns to him and if there is any place on the field you don't want to risk a fumble it's at the opponents end of the field.
    The coaches play the guys they believe will give them the best chance to win. Right now, they believe that the current order is Bradshaw, Brown, Wilson. I may disagree in the margins but I can live with this.
    No one remembers who came in second.

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