Game lost in the trenches

[Markroman]

There has been alot of back and forth as to why the Giants lost Monday.

Aside from the Griffin fumble in the 2nd half the Giants defense was terrible in the second half and did not stop the skins with any consistency. One stop was the result of the questionable offensive pass interference.

The Giants had horrible field position in the late stages of the game (thanks to penalties and the Skins ball movement). I really saw the Giants played ultra conservative on offense when they were backed up and we can second guess that til the cows come home. The truth is that backed up deep, the offensive line got beat in the second half. Their front lines beat our front lines.

What concerns me the most is I saw total confusion on the defensive side. Sure the Skins only scored 17 but, they played keep away from the Giants in the 2nd half. They drove as the clock run out and not for the fumble, they would have had much more than 17. Running the ball as they did eats up alot of clock. We have an achilles heel on defense against teams that can run.

For the Giants to score points in the red zone is a separate issue. My personal belief is they need to be aggressive and more vertical in the red zone. IE go the end zone on first down and spread the defense.

[Rudyy]

There has been alot of back and forth as to why the Giants lost Monday.

Aside from the Griffin fumble in the 2nd half the Giants defense was terrible in the second half and did not stop the skins with any consistency. One stop was the result of the questionable offensive pass interference.

The Giants had horrible field position in the late stages of the game (thanks to penalties and the Skins ball movement). I really saw the Giants played ultra conservative on offense when they were backed up and we can second guess that til the cows come home. The truth is that backed up deep, the offensive line got beat in the second half. Their front lines beat our front lines.

What concerns me the most is I saw total confusion on the defensive side. Sure the Skins only scored 17 but, they played keep away from the Giants in the 2nd half. They drove as the clock run out and not for the fumble, they would have had much more than 17. Running the ball as they did eats up alot of clock. We have an achilles heel on defense against teams that can run.

For the Giants to score points in the red zone is a separate issue. My personal belief is they need to be aggressive and more vertical in the red zone. IE go the end zone on first down and spread the defense.

Thank you.

[krygny]

I don't know what game you saw but in the game I saw, the defense gave up 7 points in the second half and 17 points, total. A very good result by any measure.

The offense and special teams were another story. A poor game all around. Penalties resulting in bad field position and killed drives, over-thrown and under-thrown passes by Manning, dropped passes, long drives ending in FGs instead of TDs, bad snaps on two FGAs (one missed), and questionable play calling. Too much run and not enough pass against one of the worst pass defenses in the league. The only good thing you can say about the O and ST is no turnovers. Other than that, a poorly executed game by everybody. EXCEPT the defense.

[blueribbon]

The bottom line is you can't miss a 43 yard field goal in a tough divisional game. We should have won by 2.

[bearbryant]

The bottom line is you can't miss a 43 yard field goal in a tough divisional game. We should have won by 2.

You are 100% correct. A lot of momos like to talk about deossie snap being to far to the right. Guess what... The ball was in his hands in front of him, he put the ball on the ground in good position for the kick. Who missed the kick: TYNES our FG specialist. Lost another one. Thanx. Oh and then we'll blame it on the snapper or the holder but oh no not the kicker. Idiots!

[bearbryant]

The entire team went to sleep in the second half, including the coaching staff who did not have them ready to play>