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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy333 View Post
    What? The defense plays a good game last week. If they play the same way this week they should win as long as they don't rely on field goals when in scoring position. Attack how? They don't have the DL everyone thought they would. That is what is hurting them the most.
    Our offensive game plan is constantly adapted to deal with the defenses problems. Last week our offensive game plan was tailored to Osi and Tuck’s paranoia and fear over the roach with braids. Both Fewell and he that shall remain nameless OC need to go.

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    Where were these complaints after the Packers game? Knees jerk from week to week around here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip Empty View Post
    Where were these complaints after the Packers game? Knees jerk from week to week around here
    Fans are as consistent as the the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffyBlueII View Post
    Our offensive game plan is constantly adapted to deal with the defenses problems. Last week our offensive game plan was tailored to Osi and Tuck’s paranoia and fear over the roach with braids. Both Fewell and he that shall remain nameless OC need to go.
    Lol roach with braids...we should fear RG3 because we might have to actually win 11 games to win our division in the future. 9-7 might not make it anymore, and mediocrity might finally not be ok anymore. Its the players fault why we lost this game....this team plays when they want too. We lose winnable games and win games the hard way. But lets be honest, this division stinks..and the Giants should be up 3 games at least. People want to talk about our brutal schedule but we are LOSING division games more than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBlooded1979 View Post
    49ers, Hawks, Broncos, Texans, Falcons
    Atlanta has the 18th ranked defense. The irony is none of those teams you listed spend much time blitzing. They just rush four. The difference is all of them have players capable of consistently getting to the QB on their own

    The three players who get to the QB the most are on the 49ers, texans, and Broncos.

    Coincidence?

    Seahawks actually have very good sub package rushers as well

    It's not playing aggressive that's the difference, it's having aggressive players who can impact the QB on their own

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    The difference between Fewell in the playtoffs last year and Fewell last week is that his players played better in the playoffs.
    Nothing wrong with his scheme last week. You can't play a lot of blitz and then man coverage against a running QB. You need a secondary that's facing the QB.
    The defensive front 7 just played lousy. Or to be more specific, they wore down in the 4th quarter.

    And for those who asked if his system is a winning one....that question is so silly its barely worth answering. He's the DC of the Superbowl champs for God's sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigblue999 View Post
    Antonio Pierce was dead on in a recent statement:

    “I’ve played with a lot of great defensive coordinators and it was always ‘Attack, attack, attack!’ You swing first and ask questions later. You hit them and make them adjust. The Giants have got to get back to that. When you start losing your swagger, that’s when you start getting pushed around."

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...#ixzz2ENpIoF3D


    I've called out Fewell numerous times for being a coward and playing prevent defense when the strength of the Giants is to attack. I don't mean the whole team blitz the QB, but get someone in the QB's face. Let the opposing offense know, our defense is in charge - make them adjust.

    We played timid and I'm afraid with this Fewell we will never be a dominant shut down defense we are capable of. Fewell makes cowards out of his players and I wonder if the recent comments by Tuck and Osi regarding RG3 is the feminization of players in the Fewell system.
    Our defense is predicated on the front four getting pressure, just like every other 4-3 defense. As others have said our problems lie with the players, not with the coach/system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShakeandBake View Post
    Our defense is predicated on the front four getting pressure, just like every other 4-3 defense. As others have said our problems lie with the players, not with the coach/system.
    Is it with the players or the fact that teams are getting rid of the ball quickly, using slants and TEs across the middle and RBs out of the backfield which negates the pass rush by not giving them time to get to the QB? The D-line hasn't been stellar, but in part that is scheme, nothing is being done to stop the quick passes. Soft coverages and zones are being exploited with the defense making few adjustments to stop it. Is that because the linebackers are bad? Probably... but it isn't all on the players. Coaches are responsible as well... there is a reason there are great coaches, lousy coaches and everything in between. Because what they do does have an impact on the game.... it is never just the players fault, conversely it is never just the coaches fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad View Post
    Is it with the players or the fact that teams are getting rid of the ball quickly, using slants and TEs across the middle and RBs out of the backfield which negates the pass rush by not giving them time to get to the QB? The D-line hasn't been stellar, but in part that is scheme, nothing is being done to stop the quick passes. Soft coverages and zones are being exploited with the defense making few adjustments to stop it. Is that because the linebackers are bad? Probably... but it isn't all on the players. Coaches are responsible as well... there is a reason there are great coaches, lousy coaches and everything in between. Because what they do does have an impact on the game.... it is never just the players fault, conversely it is never just the coaches fault.
    Just look at the numbers, our "elite" Defensive ends have not produced this year. We were really banged up in the secondary as usual this year so blitzing more to compensate for the lack of a pass rush and terrible run defense leaves us more exposed in the secondary, which we could not afford to do this season. The coach is limited to the personnel he has at his disposal. Maybe if we had a healthy TT in the secondary as well as a healthy KP for most of the season then Fewell could have called more blitz packages to help out our poor defensive line play. All of our key players on the defensive line have been there all season, so it falls on them.

    Case and point look at the Tampa Bay game this year. We got no pressure as usual so Fewell sent the blitz more often than not, leaving Tryon outside 1v1 with Vincent Jackson, and he was absolutely toasted. So it's either play a more conservative defense and give up little chunks of yardage here and there in hopes that we eventually get a stop, or we can blitz more and leave our secondary more exposed to the big play. Like I said earlier the personnel dictates what the coordinators can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmurda1984 View Post
    Lol roach with braids...we should fear RG3 because we might have to actually win 11 games to win our division in the future. 9-7 might not make it anymore, and mediocrity might finally not be ok anymore. Its the players fault why we lost this game....this team plays when they want too. We lose winnable games and win games the hard way. But lets be honest, this division stinks..and the Giants should be up 3 games at least. People want to talk about our brutal schedule but we are LOSING division games more than anything.
    There is a difference with respecting an oppossing QB and having a fearful publiclove fest of him. There is no way that Tuck and Osi’s bellyaching did not influence our offensive game plan which is ridiculous. We should have went pass happy on that dog**** passing defense and if it became a shootout I am fully confident we would have won that one.

    These guys should be a heck of a lot more worried about what Drew Brees might do to this defense this week than anything that roach with braids can hope to bring. DCs have been trying to game plan for Drew Brees for years and have limitied success.

    Our defense in the game against Washington Redskins needed the attitude of Pittsburgh Steelers. They marginalized roach with braids quite effectively.

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