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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty192 View Post
    You've just stated the problem. We can't make a fair assessment from him getting 3 carries a game.
    He's never really had excellent vision though going back to his days at VT. I'll say this much to be fair and that is I've seen him do a good job on not dancing in the backfield too much compared to how much he did it back in college since he could get away with it against those defenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEnigma View Post
    He's never really had excellent vision though going back to his days at VT. I'll say this much to be fair and that is I've seen him do a good job on not dancing in the backfield too much compared to how much he did it back in college since he could get away with it against those defenses.
    He looked really good in the preseason when he was featured. I encourage people to go and watch those games.

    We have to let the guy get into a rhythm. Right now he's averaging 2 carries a game. Plus the defense knows he's getting the ball basically every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty192 View Post
    He looked really good in the preseason when he was featured. I encourage people to go and watch those games.

    We have to let the guy get into a rhythm. Right now he's averaging 2 carries a game. Plus the defense knows he's getting the ball basically every time.
    He did have a nice game against the Bears in the preseason but I haven't really been too impressed with him outside of that. There has been a few carries where he has run into the back of our own linemen and that is an issue of vision.

    We do need to utilize him more on PA passes though since when we did it once against the Redskins, the safeties bit on the run. Unfortunately, we weren't able to connect on the pass.

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    I don't see this has a year where fans are going to be impressed by Wilson. He never is played. So what tiny bit they see, they make a snap judgment.

    Hopefully next season he'll get some serious playing time with Bradshaw getting older.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    You're going to have to do better than that unless it's just your opinion.
    Ok, out of curiosity I went through and looked at the rookie season of every running back drafted in the first round since 2004.
    Excluding the players who suffered injury-shortened seasons, David Wilson is currently on pace to be the most under-utilised 1st-round running back drafted through that period.

    att = rushing attempts
    games = games played
    Code:
    Steven Jackson      134 att        3 starts    14 games        673 yds     4 TDs
    Chris Perry           2 att        0 starts     2 games          1 yd
    Kevin Jones         241 att       14 starts    15 games       1133 yds     5 TDs   
    Ronnie Brown        207 att       14 starts    15 games        904 yds     4 TDs
    Cedric Benson        67 att        1 start      9 games        272 yds
    Cadillac Williams   290 att       14 starts    14 games       1178 yds     6 TDs
    Reggie Bush         155 att        8 starts    16 games        565 yds     6 TDs
    Laurence Maroney    175 att        0 starts    14 games        745 yds     6 TDs
    DeAngelo Williams   121 att        2 starts    13 game         501 yds     1 TD
    Joseph Addai        226 att        0 starts    16 games       1081 yds     7 TDs
    Adrian Peterson     238 att        9 starts    14 games       1341 yds    12 TDs
    Marshawn Lynch      280 att       13 starts    13 games       1115 yds     7 TDs
    Darren McFadden     113 att        5 starts    13 games        499 yds     4 TDs
    Jonathan Stewart    184 att        0 starts    16 games        836 yds    10 TDs
    Felix Jones          30 att        0 starts     6 games        266 yds     3 TDs
    Rashard Mendenhall   19 att        1 start      4 games         58 yds
    Chris Johnson       251 att       14 starts    15 games       1228 yds     9 TDs
    Knowshon Moreno     247 att        9 starts    16 games        947 yds     7 TDs
    Donald Brown         78 att        1 start     11 games        281 yds     3 TDs
    Beanie Wells        176 att        0 starts    16 games        793 yds     7 TDs
    CJ Spiller           74 att        1 start     14 games        283 yds
    Jahvid Best         171 att        9 starts    14 games        555 yds     4 TDs
    Mark Ingram         122 att        4 starts    10 games        474 yds     5 TDs
    Trent Richardson    229 att       12 starts    12 games        827 yds     7 TDs
    Doug Martin         236 att       12 starts    12 games       1106 yds     9 TDs
    David Wilson         28 att        0 starts    12 games        111 yds     1 TD
    So basically, no, the Giants' treatment of Wilson is not normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imgrate View Post
    again. The point is, that you don't use first round picks on running backs that aren't ready to play offense their rookie year. a first round pick on a rb that contributes on 6 plays a game is terrible value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEnigma View Post
    He did have a nice game against the Bears in the preseason but I haven't really been too impressed with him outside of that. There has been a few carries where he has run into the back of our own linemen and that is an issue of vision.

    We do need to utilize him more on PA passes though since when we did it once against the Redskins, the safeties bit on the run. Unfortunately, we weren't able to connect on the pass.
    you should be less impressed with the coaching staffs use of wilson,,they are not playing to his strengths,,,,we need to use him like Philly uses shady,,,screen passes and more misdirection,,let him use his speed and elusiveness in the open field..this kid is not a hand it off up the middle guy, plain and simple. plus 4 carries? I dont care who is evaluating him, you can not evaluate on such a microscopic body of work. this kid will be tiki barber 2.0 when it is all said and done..I can feel it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip Empty View Post
    Ok, out of curiosity I went through and looked at the rookie season of every running back drafted in the first round since 2004.
    Excluding the players who suffered injury-shortened seasons, David Wilson is currently on pace to be the most under-utilised 1st-round running back drafted through that period.

    att = rushing attempts
    games = games played
    Code:
    Steven Jackson      134 att        3 starts    14 games        673 yds     4 TDs
    Chris Perry           2 att        0 starts     2 games          1 yd
    Kevin Jones         241 att       14 starts    15 games       1133 yds     5 TDs   
    Ronnie Brown        207 att       14 starts    15 games        904 yds     4 TDs
    Cedric Benson        67 att        1 start      9 games        272 yds
    Cadillac Williams   290 att       14 starts    14 games       1178 yds     6 TDs
    Reggie Bush         155 att        8 starts    16 games        565 yds     6 TDs
    Laurence Maroney    175 att        0 starts    14 games        745 yds     6 TDs
    DeAngelo Williams   121 att        2 starts    13 game         501 yds     1 TD
    Joseph Addai        226 att        0 starts    16 games       1081 yds     7 TDs
    Adrian Peterson     238 att        9 starts    14 games       1341 yds    12 TDs
    Marshawn Lynch      280 att       13 starts    13 games       1115 yds     7 TDs
    Darren McFadden     113 att        5 starts    13 games        499 yds     4 TDs
    Jonathan Stewart    184 att        0 starts    16 games        836 yds    10 TDs
    Felix Jones          30 att        0 starts     6 games        266 yds     3 TDs
    Rashard Mendenhall   19 att        1 start      4 games         58 yds
    Chris Johnson       251 att       14 starts    15 games       1228 yds     9 TDs
    Knowshon Moreno     247 att        9 starts    16 games        947 yds     7 TDs
    Donald Brown         78 att        1 start     11 games        281 yds     3 TDs
    Beanie Wells        176 att        0 starts    16 games        793 yds     7 TDs
    CJ Spiller           74 att        1 start     14 games        283 yds
    Jahvid Best         171 att        9 starts    14 games        555 yds     4 TDs
    Mark Ingram         122 att        4 starts    10 games        474 yds     5 TDs
    Trent Richardson    229 att       12 starts    12 games        827 yds     7 TDs
    Doug Martin         236 att       12 starts    12 games       1106 yds     9 TDs
    David Wilson         28 att        0 starts    12 games        111 yds     1 TD
    So basically, no, the Giants' treatment of Wilson is not normal.

    It's normal for the Giants
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    OK
    not the kids fault the coaching staff just does not play rookies like that,,never have. you guys need to relax,,if we were 9-3 nobody would even be talking about him like this,,it's just one more than to b*tch about. the entire team should be ashamed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoanokeFan View Post
    It's normal for the Giants
    roanoke,,you are one of the more knowledgable posters on this board, you get it,,,,,some people will just never be happy.

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