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  1. #12611
    Quote Originally Posted by jomo View Post
    I remember them being called "ends" as in offensive ends at the time but wideout was also used. Schofner never seemed to have quick feet which has always been a necessary attribute for cornerbacks. By comparison, Jimmy Patton had quick feet. Del just didn't seem to have the right body type to play corner. It would be interesting to see some tape of him at CB though.
    You're right about Schofner's unsuitable body type. He was lean and lanky and was more of a long strider than an agile-footed defender. Guess that's one reason he stuck to O with us. We could spend a lot of time comparing defenses of olden days versus modern schemes. I'm probably remembering selectively, but in general it seems to me that there were very few DBs in those days who could stick tight to receivers, especially on deep patterns. As for the term 'wideout', I don't remember its being used in those days, mainly because receivers didn't split out very wide, by modern standards. But you may be right. I need to think about that linguistic development.

  2. #12612
    Quote Originally Posted by Astorian View Post
    You're right about Schofner's unsuitable body type. He was lean and lanky and was more of a long strider than an agile-footed defender. Guess that's one reason he stuck to O with us. We could spend a lot of time comparing defenses of olden days versus modern schemes. I'm probably remembering selectively, but in general it seems to me that there were very few DBs in those days who could stick tight to receivers, especially on deep patterns. As for the term 'wideout', I don't remember its being used in those days, mainly because receivers didn't split out very wide, by modern standards. But you may be right. I need to think about that linguistic development.
    Yeah, the fastest guys were the receivers. The DB's were usually the fastest guys who had bad hands and couldn't be receivers... lol, but true. Emlen Tunnell was a great athlete... I wonder if he had bad hands? He caught 5 passes in his 1st 2 years and then never played receiver again. Or, maybe he just preferred to hit. He was the primary PR and KR.

  3. #12613
    from what i've read,back in the 50's(tom landry)the giants were the first team to start putting the better athlete's on defense...maybe shofner's build and mindset just wasn't gear for defense.

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    bump?

  5. #12615
    Quote Originally Posted by rbcarpenter View Post
    from what i've read,back in the 50's(tom landry)the giants were the first team to start putting the better athlete's on defense...maybe shofner's build and mindset just wasn't gear for defense.
    Ummmm Landry was perhaps the worst physical specimen of a CB you'll ever find in NFL history.

    Great player effort wise ... but not a lick of athletic talent.

  6. #12616
    Since 1982 name every Giant player who had 10 or more sacks in a season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbcarpenter View Post
    from what i've read,back in the 50's(tom landry)the giants were the first team to start putting the better athlete's on defense...maybe shofner's build and mindset just wasn't gear for defense.
    I know the game has changed but it is impossible for me to envision Shofner playing CB. He just didn't have quick feet like, say Emlen Tunnell did or Erich Barnes or **** Lynch or Jimmy Patton. **** Edit: gotta love the filters that discrimate against "Richard" Lynch. lol
    Last edited by jomo; 06-05-2013 at 08:25 PM.
    No one remembers who came in second.

  8. #12618
    Quote Originally Posted by primetime View Post
    Since 1982 name every Giant player who had 10 or more sacks in a season?
    LT, Martin, Marshall, Hamilton, Armstead, Stray, Osi, Tuck, and JPP. I'm probably missing 1 or 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimonami View Post
    LT, Martin, Marshall, Hamilton, Armstead, Stray, Osi, Tuck, and JPP. I'm probably missing 1 or 2.
    Did Burt sneak in there?
    No one remembers who came in second.

  10. #12620
    Quote Originally Posted by zimonami View Post
    LT, Martin, Marshall, Hamilton, Armstead, Stray, Osi, Tuck, and JPP. I'm probably missing 1 or 2.
    That's a pretty comprehensive list Mr. Z. At first I thought Kiwanuka might have slipped in there but the most he's had is eight. I would probably know the answer if I had stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

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