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    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    He will be unquestionably cheaper than Rolle is. KP being injured for a lot of this season will reduce the contract size he gets too
    ..........injured for alot of his career as well Slip. I agree totally though, he is very good when healthy and should be a much better value for us than Rolle.
    No one remembers who came in second.

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by slipknottin View Post
    He will be unquestionably cheaper than Rolle is. KP being injured for a lot of this season will reduce the contract size he gets too
    Well that's promising. I'd rather not see him leave.

    Cruz/Phillips, then Nicks, then JPP. This team has a lot of cap juggling to do over these next few years.

  3. #143
    Bass was the worst pick up Rolle might be a cut but doubt it. Webster will be forced to take a pay cut or be cut. Yoi cant hide his horrible play this year. I have a feeling Tuck will retire he seems emotionally done. His shoulder stays hurting him walk away on top it happens to some good players. Hes a NYG for life he knows it we got Tracy and Ojomo waiting in thr wing who should have played.

  4. #144
    Man, is Kenny Phillips the Giants' very own Bob Sanders? It seemed like that guy only got paid to undergo rehab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip Empty View Post
    Man, is Kenny Phillips the Giants' very own Bob Sanders? It seemed like that guy only got paid to undergo rehab.
    Give that title to Terrell Thomas. Why did Reese even waste money giving this guy a contract. He was injured throughout USC and as a Giant. This guy is clearly hobbled.

    At least Phillips does play...Phillips will be ok...he might not have a long career, but most football players do not. Phillips is also playing on a rookie contract its Thomas who is getting paid to undergo rehab and physical therapy. I dont understand how you draft a guy who was clearly injured all the time in college as well. Bout as dumb as the Marvin Austin pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drez View Post
    Yeah, cause 3rd rd draft picks should immediately play like All Pros
    You haven't been watching the rookies this year have you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewz View Post
    Rolle should take a pay cut, or be let go. He's a liability in pass coverage in an already weak defensive backfield. Kenny Phillips can be had cheaper, and Stevie Brown/Will Hill are on the come up.
    Reese needs to really rethink keeping a lot of these guys and just makeing our cap worse for the following years. he needs to take some cap hits and play younger more hungry and healthier guys.

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Harooni View Post
    2013 cap hits

    Eli - 20,800,000

    webster - 9,900,000

    Rolle- 9,250,000

    Diehl- 7,450,000

    tuck - 5,600,000

    canty- 8,200,000

    baas- 6,700,000

    Boley- 5,900,000

    Reese will restructure some, but he really needs to trim the fat here ,look at the production and worth.

    seems like we always are tight in cap space, how about making room so we can have a future.

    we have a few FA's we need to pay also
    Given that information I would cut webster Dhiel and boley and give the money we save to ELI

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    Quote Originally Posted by giants8493 View Post
    Given that information I would cut webster Dhiel and boley and give the money we save to ELI
    huh??? you would give the extra cap space to Eli??? in case you didnt realize he needs a great cast around him and solid defense. we would take cap hits for cutting some and still need to replace them.

  10. #150
    could not agree more with playing guys that have something to prove. Honest question now does anyone think if given a chance Tracy or Ojomo dont play their hearts out and at least play as well as Tuck did for 6 times the money. Our entire right side of our oline lives off of past success. We need to get younger, faster. Stop giving money to player we dont need and ones that we can replace for significantly less money. For anyone that says Tracy has been given a chance this year should also note that they moved him back to DE this year but only time he got some playing time they had him at lb.

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