THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

[JPizzack]

[quote user="Kase-1"]Not a bad deal for the flight and hotel, where did you book it, kayak??

GUN RANGE, GUN RANGE, GUN RANGE!!!!!!
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we priced it through kayak, travelocity and expedia. And i think travelocity gave us the best price for identical booking. saved a couple buck each i think.
Could be wrong, my one buddy put the whole thing on a cc and we just paid him, so i forget.</P>


and yea, a few of my friends want to go to the gun range. i might give it a go. they are into that kind of stuff, me not so much. but i'll shoot some AKs and such!! lol</P>

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]smaller stadiums, makes a smaller crowd look better percentage wise - thats just twisting the math around

cold hard numbers will tell u otherwise.
[/quote]LMAO, you're too much man

You're so blind about how much you hate the game, its crazy
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your love is blinding you

its funny, go look at the bottom of the barrell of the overall sell out stats.

Islanders total sellout rating was 81.5% and they average 14,220 people a game,

Then go look at the 76ers who who have an 80.8% but have JUST under 16k a game...

Smaller percentage but about 1800 people MORE a game. Your trying to somehow say thats a victory for the NHL in your comparison

and then on the flipside, Edmonton which is one of the teams that averages most sellouts at home only seats 16k.....

so like I said, your percentage argument is weak

[/quote]Your hate is blinding you

So now my argument is weak because the NHL arenas hold a few less patrons and yes the bottom of the barrel may look in your favor but there are 25+ teams in the NBA that cant sell out their home games, twist that how you want but they cant sell out their home games and the NHL can
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no it doesn't make your argument weak - but it makes the point u tried to make as weak

u refuse to look at the hard numbers and just on the percentages. I just showed u why its stupid to do so..

of the 12 teams are Canadian teams. This whole argument was based on America not giving a **** about Hockey because its boring
[/quote]Yea forgive me for not wanting to add up all 64 collective teams attendance numbers, looking at the % of home games they sell out says enough for me

Even without the Canadian teams, there are more NHL teams than NBA teams that sell out consistently

And BTW you have no way of proving your argument that 'America doesnt care about hockey cause its boring', you're waaaaaaay too general with your point
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andddd they also have smaller capacity stadiums

hence why your averages are weak and having one more "HOCKEY TOWN" doesn't equate to anything when your talking on a national level.


[/quote]Annnnnnddd they also sell out at double the amount of cities.

Boom Roasted


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and only in those cities in which half are canadian countries and really doesn't matter in this arguement.

if u want me to say that hockey is bigger in canada than nba is in america... i'd concur

make this stop kase, its almost like a jet/mets fan saying they run NY


[/quote]I thought it was over til you re-ignited the fire today, so thats on you homeboy

They still sell out more American cities than the NBA does
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i'm going on a stand up comedy tour...

venue only holds 5 people in each venue

im going to have more sellouts than NHL and NBA combined

I'm going to call you Rex right now whenever you pick this argument up
[/quote]Yea, cept NHL and NBA arenas hold a similar amount of people 16-20k, not 5, LOL

Id love to see the tour, when are you playing NY??
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yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game

[Kase-1]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
[/quote]4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats

[Morehead State]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="JPizzack"]Nobody is saying the Nets are going to overtake the Knicks in NY....that's not even possible.
But it's good to have another team taking attention in NY. And since there isn't really any NY/NJ rivalry in the NBA, it's not really a bad thing for fans either.
Maybe it WILL spark a rivalry should the Nets land D-Howard. Never know. that could be cool actually.[/quote]I just enjoy making Matt insane, LOL

If the Nets had a decent fanbase there would be SOME-SORT of rivalry, hell the Rangers have rivalries with the Devils and Isles no matter how terrible they may be, I dont see why the Knicks couldnt have a nice rivalry with the Nets
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Islanders have one of the worst fanbases (by your ownstandards of sellout %)
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Until they become the new Hartford Whalers.</P>

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
[/quote]4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats
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they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Morehead State"]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="JPizzack"]Nobody is saying the Nets are going to overtake the Knicks in NY....that's not even possible.
But it's good to have another team taking attention in NY. And since there isn't really any NY/NJ rivalry in the NBA, it's not really a bad thing for fans either.
Maybe it WILL spark a rivalry should the Nets land D-Howard. Never know. that could be cool actually.[/quote]I just enjoy making Matt insane, LOL

If the Nets had a decent fanbase there would be SOME-SORT of rivalry, hell the Rangers have rivalries with the Devils and Isles no matter how terrible they may be, I dont see why the Knicks couldnt have a nice rivalry with the Nets
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Islanders have one of the worst fanbases (by your ownstandards of sellout %)
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Until they become the new Hartford Whalers.</p>[/quote]

in which people would care even less

[Morehead State]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="JPizzack"]Nobody is saying the Nets are going to overtake the Knicks in NY....that's not even possible.
But it's good to have another team taking attention in NY. And since there isn't really any NY/NJ rivalry in the NBA, it's not really a bad thing for fans either.
Maybe it WILL spark a rivalry should the Nets land D-Howard. Never know. that could be cool actually.[/quote]I just enjoy making Matt insane, LOL

If the Nets had a decent fanbase there would be SOME-SORT of rivalry, hell the Rangers have rivalries with the Devils and Isles no matter how terrible they may be, I dont see why the Knicks couldnt have a nice rivalry with the Nets
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Islanders have one of the worst fanbases (by your ownstandards of sellout %)
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Until they become the new Hartford Whalers.</P>


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in which people would care even less
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You are going straight to hell for that comment.</P>

[Kase-1]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
[/quote]4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats
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they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
[/quote]More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings

[JPizzack]

[quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
[/quote]4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats
[/quote]

they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
[/quote]More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while <FONT color=#0000ff>NBA teams have better road followings
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wouldnt this suggest that there are clearly MORE fans of MORE teams than anything the nhl can claim?
Look at someone like Lando. He lives in a small market, but is a fan of teams that play nowhere near him, in NY and LA. </P>

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

/end game
[/quote]4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats
[/quote]

they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
[/quote]More people cause there's more seats
More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings
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Not if u take out the Canadian franchises