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    <h1>NBA vs. NHL: Attendance and Ratings In Markets Where TeamsCompete</h1>

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    <span class="time">April 22, 2010</span></p></div>

    New York</p>


    Ratings

    Knicks -
    0.95

    Rangers – 0.89</p>


    Attendance

    Rangers – <span style="font-weight:normal;">99.3% Capacity</span>

    Knicks –
    98.7% Capacity</p>


    New Jersey</p>


    Ratings

    Devils –
    0.58

    Nets – 0.29</p>


    Attendance

    Devils –
    88.2% capacity

    Nets – 69.1% capacity</p>


    Los Angeles</p>


    Ratings

    Lakers –
    3.54

    Kings – 0.48

    Clippers – 0.44</p>


    Attendance

    Lakers –
    99.7% capacity

    Kings – 93.6% capacity

    Clippers – 85.7% capacity</p>


    Chicago</p>


    Ratings

    Blackhawks – 2.45

    Bulls – 2.35</p>


    Attendance

    Blackhawks – 108.3% capacity

    Bulls – 99.1% capacity</p>


    Philadelphia</p>


    Ratings

    Flyers – 2.18

    76ers – 1.24</p>


    Attendance

    Flyers – 100.2% capacity

    76ers – 70.0% capacity</p>


    Dallas</p>


    Ratings

    Mavericks – 2.41

    Stars – 0.74</p>


    Attendance

    Mavericks – 104.1% capacity

    Stars – 92.9% capacity</p>


    Bay Area</p>


    Ratings

    Warriors – 1.35

    Sharks – 1.11</p>


    Attendance

    Sharks – <span style="font-weight:normal;">100.4%</span>

    Warriors – 92.0%</p>


    Boston</p>


    Ratings

    Celtics – 3.11

    Bruins – 2.18</p>


    Attendance

    Bruins – 99.0%

    Celtics – 97.6%</p>


    Atlanta</p>


    Ratings

    Hawks – 1.93/1.66

    Thrashers – 0.33</p>


    Attendance

    Hawks – 88.3% capacity

    Thrashers – 73.4%capacity</p>


    Washington</p>


    Ratings

    Capitals –
    1.60

    Wizards – 1.18</p>


    Attendance

    Capitals –
    100.0%

    Wizards – 80.3%</p>


    Detroit</p>


    Ratings

    Red Wings –
    4.21

    Pistons – 1.98</p>


    Attendance

    Red Wings –
    97.4% capacity

    Pistons – 84.9% capacity</p>


    Phoenix</p>


    Ratings

    Suns –
    3.18

    Coyotes – 0.62</p>


    Attendance

    Suns –
    95.8% capacity

    Coyotes – 68.5% capacity</p>


    Minneapolis/St. Paul</p>


    Ratings

    Wild –
    1.67

    Timberwolves – 0.75</p>


    Attendance

    Wild –
    101.9% capacity

    Timberwolves – 78.0% capacity</p>


    Denver</p>


    Ratings

    Nuggets –
    2.78

    Avalanche – 1.56</p>


    Attendance

    Nuggets –
    93.9% capacity

    Avalanche – 77.5% capacity</p>


    Miami</p>


    Ratings

    Heat –
    2.48

    Panthers – 0.25</p>


    Attendance

    Heat –
    90.5%

    Panthers – 78.7%</p>
    Markets Where Hockey Defeats Basketball

    Ratings: <span style="font-weight:normal;">6</span>

    Attendance: <span style="font-weight:normal;">9</span>

    Both:

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    N.B.A. telecasts outdraw N.H.L. telecasts by somewhere between a 3-to-1 and 4-to-1 margin in America.

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    <font size="4">Hockey Only Beating Hoops on TV in ThreeMarkets</font>

    We’re not
    going to make an enthusiasm gap joke here. <font color="#0000FF">Basketball’s always doing
    better than hockey on TV, and that’s not what that subject was debated
    on. <font size="4">The point here as that it takes a basketball team really blowing
    chunks to find a hockey team that can beat it in the ratings.</font></font></p>


    What follows after the jump is a slightly more detailed look at the
    NBA vs. NHL battle in markets where both teams compete. We’ll feature
    the teams in the market’s current average attendance as well. Enjoy.</p>

    Atlanta

    NBA:
    Hawks

    NHL: Thrashers</p>


    Attendance

    Hawks: 16,398 (87.6%)

    Thrashers:
    14,361 (77.4%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    Hawks: 1.4

    Thrashers:
    0.2</p>


    Boston

    NBA:
    Celtics

    NHL: Bruins</p>


    Attendance

    Celtics: 18,624 (100%)

    Bruins:
    16,731 (89.8%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    Celtics: 3.7

    Bruins:
    2.2</p>


    Chicago

    NBA:
    Bulls

    NHL: Blackhawks</p>


    Attendance

    Bulls:
    21,003 (96.7%)

    Blackhawks: 22,495 (114.7%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    Bulls: 2.3

    Blackhawks:
    1.1</p>


    Dallas

    NBA:
    Mavericks

    NHL: Stars</p>


    Attendance

    Mavericks:
    20,020 (104.3%)

    Stars: 17,645 (95.2%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    Mavericks: 1.2

    Stars:
    0.5</p>


    Denver

    NBA: Nuggets

    NHL: Avalanche
    </p>


    Attendance

    Nuggets: 16,820 (87.8%)

    Avalanche:
    15,797 (87.7%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    Nuggets:
    1.8

    Avalanche: 1.7</p>


    Detroit

    NBA:
    Pistons

    NHL: Red Wings</p>


    Attendance

    Pistons: 22,076 (100%)

    Red Wings:
    19,724 (98.3%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    Pistons: 3.9

    Red Wings:
    3.7</p>


    South Florida

    NBA:
    Heat

    NHL: Panthers</p>


    Attendance

    Heat: 17,754 (90.6%)

    Panthers:
    14,967 (77.8%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    Heat: 2.2

    Panthers:
    0.2</p>


    Los Angeles

    NBA:
    Lakers and Clippers

    NHL: Kings</p>


    Attendance

    Lakers: 18,997 (99.7%)

    Clippers: <span style="font-weight:normal;">15,443 (81.0%)</span>

    Kings:
    15,965 (86.3%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    Lakers:
    4.2

    Clippers: 0.6

    Kings: 0.4</p>


    Minnesota

    NBA:
    Timberwolves

    NHL: Wild</p>


    Attendance

    Timberwolves:
    13,730 (70.9%)

    Wild: 18,568 (102.8%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    Timberwolves:
    1.1

    Wild: 2.2</p>


    New Jersey

    NBA:
    Nets

    NHL: Devils</p>


    Attendance

    Nets: <span style="font-weight:normal;">15,152 (75.8%)</span>

    Devils: 15,313 (86.9%)
    </p>


    TV Ratings

    Nets: 0.6

    Devils:
    0.4</p>


    New York

    NBA:
    Knicks

    NHL: Rangers</p>


    Attendance

    Knicks: 19,132
    (96.8%)

    Rangers: 18,200 (100%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    Knicks: 1.2

    Rangers:
    1.0</p>


    Philadelphia

    NBA:
    76ers

    NHL: Flyers</p>


    Attendance

    76ers:
    14,536 (71.5%)

    Flyers: 19,428 (99.6%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    76ers:
    1.5

    Flyers: 2.2</p>


    Phoenix</p>


    NBA: Suns

    NHL: Coyotes</p>


    Attendance

    Suns: 18,422 (100%)

    Coyotes:
    14,801 (84.6%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    Suns: 3.4

    Coyotes:
    0.5</p>


    Bay Area

    NBA:
    Warriors

    NHL: Sharks</p>


    Attendance

    Warriors: 18,855
    (96,2%)

    Sharks:
    17,483 (99.9%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    Warriors: 1.5

    Sharks:
    1.3</p>


    Washington

    NBA:
    Wizards

    NHL: Capitals</p>


    Attendance

    Wizards:
    16,854 (83.5%)

    Capitals: 17,973 (96.3%)</p>


    TV Ratings

    Wizards:
    1.1

    Capitals: 1.2</p>
    All attendance numbers are from ESPN. All ratings numbers are from Sports Business Journal via Sports Media

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    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

    yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

    /end game
    [/quote]4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats
    [/quote]

    they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
    [/quote]More people cause there's more seats
    More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings
    [/quote]

    Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
    [/quote]If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis
    [/quote]


    http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/...11/sort/allPct

    http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/...11/sort/allPct

    the truth will set you free
    [/quote]The NHL would still have more teams (Chicago, Philthy, SJ, DC, STL, Boston, Pittsburgh) compared to the NBA (Dallas, Chicago, Portland, Orlando, Miami, Boston)

    The NHL also has 4 teams that sellout 99% of their games compared to the NBAs 3
    [/quote]

    bottom line is that overall both leagues don't sell out overall and can sell more tickets if they had the fan base and the NBA still outdraws the NHL
    [/quote]

    Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases. If they had the fanbases of the NFL we'd both be screwed as fans, then again thatll never happen cause NBA and NHL have 82 game seasons
    [/quote]

    I see rex is back making ridic statements
    [/quote]Nah I gotta say the most ridiculous statement was saying that the nation doesnt care about hockey, cause it plain and simple isnt true
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    i just looked something up and I thought it was funny. The best Stanley Cup ratings the NHL ever had was last year and it was pretty much the same exact number that the season premier of an awful show I was watching last year called THE CAPE....

    long story short... if NHL was a TV show - it would be cancelled

    lol
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    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

    yea but the fact remains that NBA has 4 more NBA franchises, bigger stadiums, and bigger crowds

    /end game
    [/quote]4 more Franchises that cant sellout, bigger arenas that are empty and bigger crowds that arent filling the seats
    [/quote]

    they average more people per game and only ONE NHL team sells out every night, while two NBA teams sell out every night on average regardless of where they play.
    [/quote]More people cause there's more seats
    More NHL teams can support strong home fanbases while NBA teams have better road followings
    [/quote]

    Not if u take out the Canadian franchises
    [/quote]If you take out the Canadian teams there are still more NHL teams that sell out on a consistent basis
    [/quote]


    http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/...11/sort/allPct

    http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/...11/sort/allPct

    the truth will set you free
    [/quote]The NHL would still have more teams (Chicago, Philthy, SJ, DC, STL, Boston, Pittsburgh) compared to the NBA (Dallas, Chicago, Portland, Orlando, Miami, Boston)

    The NHL also has 4 teams that sellout 99% of their games compared to the NBAs 3
    [/quote]

    bottom line is that overall both leagues don't sell out overall and can sell more tickets if they had the fan base and the NBA still outdraws the NHL
    [/quote]

    Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases. If they had the fanbases of the NFL we'd both be screwed as fans, then again thatll never happen cause NBA and NHL have 82 game seasons
    [/quote]

    I see rex is back making ridic statements
    [/quote]Nah I gotta say the most ridiculous statement was saying that the nation doesnt care about hockey, cause it plain and simple isnt true
    [/quote]

    its actually quite true

    hockey towns care about hockey - thats about it...
    Fear the name, appreciate the game

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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    Let me just say this. I don't follow the NHL like I used to. (for reasons I have already explained), but back when the Blackhawks played at the old Chicago Stadium, a playoff game there was just about the most exciting and intense sporting event there was.</P>


    That place rocked like I've never seen at any football game or basketball game.</P>


    Hockey is much more of a live sport than basketball or even baseball. Its just not a great fit for TV. But the NHL is a very exciting game, especially in the playoffs. The league has made several mistakes, especially having far too many teams in an attempt to Americanize it. But the game itself is great at its core.</P>


    [/quote]

    Blackhawks seem to be the biggest attractiong between any team in any league

    which is funny because I don't know one person on their team.

    Its silly to even have this conversation... what Lundquist did the other day was INSANE. A shutout on 42 shots is something that I even know is sick.

    It was still page 4 print compared to Lin and the Knicks. You may have some hardcore hockey towns, but the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country
    [/quote]</P>


    I don't really know what the excitement is at Blackhawk games these days. But in the days of Stan Makita and Tony Esposito, it was nuts.</P>


    You can look at attendance figures if you like. But hoops draws more celebrities, corporations, and other phony fans. Hockey fans are hard core.</P>


    Basketball is all about slam dunks, hotdogging, one on one play and the glorification of a few superstars. Hockey is all about the <U>game</U>.</P>


    Gotta go with Kase 100% on this argument.</P>


    [/quote]

    everything u just said, actually means u agree with me

    America's interest in NBA HIGHLY outweights the interest of the NHL...

    its clear

    stop davening - your not every good at it anymore


    [/quote]</P>


    Its all about TV Matt. Thats where the money is at. Hockey doesn't play well on TV. But as a live event, its a great game.</P>
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    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Kase-1"]Bottom line is that the NBA cant stand up to the NHL in selling out and maintaining strong fanbases.
    [/quote]
    Locally maybe. Nationally it's not even close.
    [/quote]

    and no, because locally to kase is the tri-state

    Knicks are the bigger story than the Rangers and from what i've been hearing the Rangers are looking liket he best team in the NHL
    [/quote]Yes, the Tri-State. Thats what local is, cause there are Knicks and Rangers fans from all 3 states that commute and attend the games at the garden.

    The Rangers have been selling out much more than the Knicks for quite some time now
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    the truth is that nobody really cares throughout the whole country

    [quote user="Kase-1"]
    See ridiculous generalized statements like that make this argument go on WAY too long
    [/quote]
    I believe this to be true as well Kase. General statement or not. If we are going with majority it's true.

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    [quote user="bigblue4417"]<h1>NBA vs. NHL: Attendance and Ratings In Markets Where TeamsCompete</h1>

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    <span class="time">April 22, 2010</span></p></div>

    New York</p>


    Ratings

    Knicks -
    0.95

    Rangers – 0.89</p>


    Attendance

    Rangers – <span style="font-weight:normal;">99.3% Capacity</span>

    Knicks –
    98.7% Capacity</p>


    New Jersey</p>


    Ratings

    Devils –
    0.58

    Nets – 0.29</p>


    Attendance

    Devils –
    88.2% capacity

    Nets – 69.1% capacity</p>


    Los Angeles</p>


    Ratings

    Lakers –
    3.54

    Kings – 0.48

    Clippers – 0.44</p>


    Attendance

    Lakers –
    99.7% capacity

    Kings – 93.6% capacity

    Clippers – 85.7% capacity</p>


    Chicago</p>


    Ratings

    Blackhawks – 2.45

    Bulls – 2.35</p>


    Attendance

    Blackhawks – 108.3% capacity

    Bulls – 99.1% capacity</p>


    Philadelphia</p>


    Ratings

    Flyers – 2.18

    76ers – 1.24</p>


    Attendance

    Flyers – 100.2% capacity

    76ers – 70.0% capacity</p>


    Dallas</p>


    Ratings

    Mavericks – 2.41

    Stars – 0.74</p>


    Attendance

    Mavericks – 104.1% capacity

    Stars – 92.9% capacity</p>


    Bay Area</p>


    Ratings

    Warriors – 1.35

    Sharks – 1.11</p>


    Attendance

    Sharks – <span style="font-weight:normal;">100.4%</span>

    Warriors – 92.0%</p>


    Boston</p>


    Ratings

    Celtics – 3.11

    Bruins – 2.18</p>


    Attendance

    Bruins – 99.0%

    Celtics – 97.6%</p>


    Atlanta</p>


    Ratings

    Hawks – 1.93/1.66

    Thrashers – 0.33</p>


    Attendance

    Hawks – 88.3% capacity

    Thrashers – 73.4%capacity</p>


    Washington</p>


    Ratings

    Capitals –
    1.60

    Wizards – 1.18</p>


    Attendance

    Capitals –
    100.0%

    Wizards – 80.3%</p>


    Detroit</p>


    Ratings

    Red Wings –
    4.21

    Pistons – 1.98</p>


    Attendance

    Red Wings –
    97.4% capacity

    Pistons – 84.9% capacity</p>


    Phoenix</p>


    Ratings

    Suns –
    3.18

    Coyotes – 0.62</p>


    Attendance

    Suns –
    95.8% capacity

    Coyotes – 68.5% capacity</p>


    Minneapolis/St. Paul</p>


    Ratings

    Wild –
    1.67

    Timberwolves – 0.75</p>


    Attendance

    Wild –
    101.9% capacity

    Timberwolves – 78.0% capacity</p>


    Denver</p>


    Ratings

    Nuggets –
    2.78

    Avalanche – 1.56</p>


    Attendance

    Nuggets –
    93.9% capacity

    Avalanche – 77.5% capacity</p>


    Miami</p>


    Ratings

    Heat –
    2.48

    Panthers – 0.25</p>


    Attendance

    Heat –
    90.5%

    Panthers – 78.7%</p>
    Markets Where Hockey Defeats Basketball

    Ratings: <span style="font-weight:normal;">6</span>

    Attendance: <span style="font-weight:normal;">9</span>

    Both:
    [/quote]9 out of 15 isnt bad at all. phoenix coyotes....what a joke

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