[quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]
[quote user="DavenIII"]Also I just saw a claim recently.
it said the average cost per month for healthcare in Mass (which has done what Obama care is supposed to do just on a state level)
600$ Month - Average wait for an appointment 50 Days - Boston
it was compared to Atlanta which is a more "average" health care system.
200$ Month - Average wait for an appointment 11 Days - Atlanta
so why is the statewide healthcare plan in Mass considered a success if it's increasing cost and lowering quality of care...and if that's the case why did Obama base his plan off that one...and is that what we can all expect for everyone once it starts being implemented on a federal level?
I live in Mass Daven. I call my doctor at 9:00 and he can see me no later than 11:00. All the Mass. HC law does is insure the small minority that aren't insured now. It has absolutely NO EFFECT on the 95% of people who already have insurance.</P>
My insurance is great actually. We have a low deductable and no co pay. Its because we have good insurance through the market system.</P>
I have no idea where these numbers of yours come from. I live here.</P>
Hmm well I guess I'm glad to hear that, do you know anyone who doesn't have their own market based Insurance that uses the states?
I mean I'm hoping that the personal mandate (fine/tax thing) get's ruled unconstitutional all the way through the court system because I believe Obama care hinges on that correct?
I wonder though since you live in Mass (and I know you like Romney) are you ok with a national healthcare plan obviously not Obama care but any national health care plan I mean.
I am definately NOT OK with a national healthcare mandate of any kind and I also hope the Supreme Court rules the mandate unconstitutional. The constitution gives certain power to the Congress but it all specifically limits the power of the Federal Gov. as well. The notion that the Federal Government (and we are a "federal" government of states) can force a private citizen to buy health insurance is repugnant to me.</P>