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the truth is you guys have joined into the mob mentality that goes against Shockey in NY...you have no reason to hate him...you hate him because everyone else does...and everyone else does because they weren't paying attention and the NY media told them to.
[/quote]When Shockey left it was due, he was at ends with the team and the FO, it was understood on both sides. I never really 'hated' him til this recent beef with Amani, Toomer is one of my fav Giants of All-Time and is no doubt a Giants great, probably the best WR in team history
His recent comments make him REALLY sound like a D-Bag
Toomer insults Shockey and you don't expect him to respond?</P>
And BTW, Toomer badmouthed the organization and coaching staff when they released him. Why don't you add Toomer to the great Giants you now hate.</P>
[/quote]Where did you hear this?!?!?!
Amani Toomer is a SAINT!!!!
Just off the top of my head.</P>
He said that he wouldn't resign with the Giants even if they wanted him. He said they were intentionally not throwing him the ball to "phase him out" of the team.</P>
He also said that the Giants were "long on talent but short on heart".</P>
I'm sure there were other bitter gems.</P>
[/quote]I dont know about that... Sounds more like something Shockey would say on a day he was feeling nice
I've had this conversation before with some of you guys. I personally don't care much at all what a player says to the media. Most NFL players are overgrown children anyway, and say what comes to mind without considering the consequences.</P>
It never bothered me what BJ said, or Shockey. the only one who really bothered me was Tiki because he betrayed the clubhouse confidence that all player have.</P>
I care about what a player does ON THE FIELD. Go play hard and you're OK with me.</P>
thats why I loved Shockey and BJ. I like guys with attitude and toughness. </P>
Some of you guys just seem to care more about the soap opera element of the game. Its all part of the feminization of our society.</P>
In other words, you're all a bunch of women!</P>