THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Kase-1"]OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
[/quote]

Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.
[/quote]

Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
[/quote]Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.[/quote]</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


[/quote]I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. [/quote]

thats registered crimes though

I think we could all agree that cops tend to racially profile and there is a probably LARGE discrimination in white males committing crimes not being caught to black males not going caught.

I agree that black males probably would still have the advantage but I would think that its much closer than that
[/quote]Ever see "trading places" with Eddie Murphy? An individual is a product of their environment in most circumstances. Lack of education, poverty and the other challenges in the inner cities of this country breed the most criminals. It's bound to happen. I would choose not to breed if I were in that scenario, why bother?[/quote]</p>


I'm sorry I was just thinking about Jamie Lee's breasts.</p>[/quote]

amen

[lttaylor56]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Kase-1"]OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim.* To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
[/quote]

Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.
[/quote]

Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
[/quote]Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.[/quote]</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime.* It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>


[/quote]I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups [/quote]</P>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes.* Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</P>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing.* The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</P>[/quote]Funny, as I was writing my next post which cited the socio economic side of things, you were on the same page.

Now I want to play devils advocate, since an indiv. will tend to be a product of their environment, why are their more African Americans in poverty situations than caucassions? That's the part I don't agree with. I see it every day, we work hard to have what we have. Not all, but a large majority of AA-don't care one way or another and move very S L O W L Y. The level of ambition is very disproportionate.

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Kase-1"]Say it with me Daven AND DEZZ.....



<font size="5">I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!</font>
[/quote]

I love and hate all people equally....I actually don't see any racial issue here at all.
[/quote]

i see a slight issue...

i doubt as many popular black stars try to spread the knowledge of this incident if it was a white kid

[lttaylor56]

[quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Kase-1"]Say it with me Daven AND DEZZ.....



<font size="5">I LOVE BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!</font>
[/quote]

I love and hate all people equally....I actually don't see any racial issue here at all.
[/quote]Rod Tidwell Rules! and they love you as well because they don't have to work because you DO!

[Morehead State]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Kase-1"]OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
[/quote]

Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.
[/quote]

Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
[/quote]Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.[/quote]</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>


[/quote]I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. [/quote]

thats registered crimes though

I think we could all agree that cops tend to racially profile and there is a probably LARGE discrimination in white males committing crimes not being caught to black males not going caught.

I agree that black males probably would still have the advantage but I would think that its much closer than that
[/quote]Ever see "trading places" with Eddie Murphy? An individual is a product of their environment in most circumstances. Lack of education, poverty and the other challenges in the inner cities of this country breed the most criminals. It's bound to happen. I would choose not to breed if I were in that scenario, why bother?[/quote]</P>


I'm sorry I was just thinking about Jamie Lee's breasts.</P>


[/quote]

amen
[/quote]</P>


That was a legitimately great movie. Akroid is one of the best comedic actors I've ever seen.</P>

[Kase-1]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Kase-1"]OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
[/quote]

Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.
[/quote]

Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
[/quote]Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.[/quote]</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


[/quote]I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups [/quote]</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>[/quote]Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that

[Morehead State]

[quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Kase-1"]OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
[/quote]

Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.
[/quote]

Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
[/quote]Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.[/quote]</P>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</P>


[/quote]I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups [/quote]</P>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</P>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</P>


[/quote]Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
[/quote]</P>


Isn't that racist?</P>

[lttaylor56]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Morehead State"]

[quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Kase-1"]OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim.* To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
[/quote]

Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.
[/quote]

Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
[/quote]Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.[/quote]</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime.* It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>[/quote]I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012.

[/quote]

thats registered crimes though

I think we could all agree that cops tend to racially profile and there is a probably LARGE discrimination in white males committing crimes not being caught to black males not going caught.

I agree that black males probably would still have the advantage but I would think that its much closer than that
[/quote]Ever see "trading places" with Eddie Murphy? An individual is a product of their environment in most circumstances. Lack of education, poverty and the other challenges in the inner cities of this country breed the most criminals. It's bound to happen. I would choose not to breed if I were in that scenario, why bother?[/quote]

absolutely...

u know how many coke dealers i've had that we're little rich white boys that live in a nice house with both parents and good life?


[/quote]Agreed...

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Kase-1"]OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim. To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
[/quote]

Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.
[/quote]

Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
[/quote]Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.[/quote]</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime. It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


[/quote]I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups [/quote]</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes. Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing. The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>[/quote]Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes. If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
[/quote]

plus keep in mind that there are more cops in that area who actively look for crime

If you had that in even rich kid towns with mansions the numbers would dramatically go up.

[lttaylor56]

[quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Kase-1"]OK, I see you're gonna pick it up where we left off.

Never did I suggest that 100% of the people that are attending these rallies and supporting the arrest were doing it for a just cause, I was saying that a majority are and you deny that claim.* To you it seems like they are all hipsters looking for the next 'cool thing' but in actuallity the majority are angry at the whole situation and doing it because its the 'right thing' not the 'cool thing'
[/quote]

Ok, let's put your theory to the test then shall we? I'm going to remember this, and lets say a month, one month from now I'm gonna start making Hoodie+Skittles+Trayvon comments around TAGF and in THEE Thread, I can almost guarantee no one is going to know what I'm talking about, people care in the moment....but we forget...most are not "really" angry, they are spurred by the media to be angry in the moment but once the media drops this and picks something else up those same people will be "genuinely angry" at the next tragedy, I'm sorry Kase but that's how most people are, they do what they are told by the media....our society is a bunch of sheep...everyone will forget....it's sad but it's also true.
[/quote]

Sounds like a good idea Daven

So why do you put genuinely angry in quotations, are you saying that nobody can or is allowed to be genuinely angry anymore, because you think they'll just be pretending to join the fad or theyre trying to be 'cool'

Better that people think its 'cool' and bring attention to the issue rather than ignoring it completely, yes it may be disingenuous but at least its bringing attention to the light

To you its a majority, in reality its a minority
[/quote]Is it cool in the younger generations to be "angry" these days? I do know a few people that due to drugs are Angry people now, I pray for them, but it's pretty much an every day, all the time thing. They're just angry. I do agree that certain races are more disposed to be involved in criminal activity. Another important statistic is how many of the perps that do illegal things are addicts or under the influence of alcohol and drugs.[/quote]</p>


I disagree about certain races being more disposed to crime.* It has a lot to do with a million factors but race aint one of them.</p>


[/quote]I realize its 2001 data, I would be interested to see 2012. Graph is for: As of 2001, the chances of going to prison in percentages for various demographic groups [/quote]</p>


Well you are not taking into consideration all the socio-economic reasons that African Americans are far more likely to grow up in poverty, far more likely to come from poor homes.* Then combine that will the social pressures depicted in the modern media, the poor "leaders" who are more apologists than anything else, and then add the horrific racial inequality in the judicial system.</p>


Then add about 1000 other factors that lead to the statistics you are citing.* The level of pigment in their skin, or their geneological heritage have NOTHING to do with it.</p>[/quote]Poorer people, no matter the color are more likely to commit crimes.* If you dont have money, you need money, and nobody can help you out, sometimes you gotta go out and take what you need.... Its terrible but it happens all the time

In some places of the USA and the world for that matter, color of skin is a large factor, you cant deny that
[/quote]Yes--and drug dependence is connected to not having a job or money...it's a viscious cycle.