THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

[DavenIII]

[quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"]<font size="6">it's not that you have a different opinion kase...it's that you HAVE one at all that is the problem.</font>
[/quote]Maybe im misunderstanding you, but honestly that makes me wanna punch ya in the mouth. Way to play into the disrespectful and condescending role you fit oh so well, at least I believe that you can have an opinion albeit 'different' but at least I dont have a problem with you having one

You can deny it all you want, but you're 'on the spectrum'
[/quote]

yes you don't get it, you are misunderstanding me.

I DO NOT have any opinion on the case right now...I'm not against you, im not on your side...I'm nowhere (as in not on the spectrum)

you have chosen one side already, you think Zimmerman is guilty, my point is that to me, I think NO ONE should have any opinion on this yet because I think it's unwise to jump to conclusions.

you can lean one way or another...but you, you are saying things like your opinion is based on facts and reacting with shock when someone suggests you may not be right.

[dezzzR]

[quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="dezzzR"]And not for nothing, but i remember Kase getting all bent out of shape over the Sean Bell case as well. Not one cop was white, one looked white, but Al and Jessie got the media all worked up.
[/quote]Yea and I still believe that there was foul play

Big deal Al and Jessie got worked up, most black people dont agree with them on a TON of issues anyway. Big deal Al and Jessie stuck up for the people they represent, like Matt said do you feel that you have to stick up for 'white people' and if so, dont stick up for me
[/quote]On racism, they agree with them for the most part. They are always blaming someone, always pointing a finger. How can we get passed racism with idiots like these?
Jessie Jackson was caught saying hed like to cut Obamas nuts off when Obama was running for president because Obama said African American fathers need to step up and take responsibility. lol Hes a piece of crap.

Not one cop in the Sean Bell case was white, one looked white, and they made it allllll about racism.

[Kase-1]

[quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Kase-1"]And I believe he's guilty of murder, its not fact, its just what I think

Im not calling it fact cause Im not Trayvon Martin, Im not George Zimmerman, and Im not God so I wasnt there 1st hand thats why Im not acting like my word was passed down from the All-Mighty Lord
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what you are saying and have been saying is.

#1) you believe Zimmerman is guilty.
#2) you've come to this opinion based on "Facts"
#3) you have displayed shock and anger that I can have any other opinion.

what I'm saying is...

#1) I don't believe that these "facts" you have based your opinion on can be trusted.
#2) I'm not willing to have ANY opinion on this case until the time that we know what are an aren't the REAL facts of this case.
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1.I believe Zimmerman is guilty of murder, I didnt say it was a 'fact'

2.I never act like what I was saying was 'fact' unlike you who acted like what you said was the Holy Word

3. My anger comes from how disrespectful and condescending you have been this WHOLE TIME, from the 1st time we started this up, until your last post. I could care less about your difference of opinion, that isnt what bothers me

#1) I don't believe that these "facts" you have based your opinion on can be trusted.- Ya know how disrespectful that is!?!?! Why cant they be trusted, but yours can???

#2) I'm not willing to have ANY opinion on this case until the time that we know what are an aren't the REAL facts of this case. - IF there is a case, thats what the majority of the outrage has come from, there isnt a case and there needs to be one

[Kase-1]

[quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"]<font size="6">it's not that you have a different opinion kase...it's that you HAVE one at all that is the problem.</font>
[/quote]Maybe im misunderstanding you, but honestly that makes me wanna punch ya in the mouth. Way to play into the disrespectful and condescending role you fit oh so well, at least I believe that you can have an opinion albeit 'different' but at least I dont have a problem with you having one

You can deny it all you want, but you're 'on the spectrum'
[/quote]

yes you don't get it, you are misunderstanding me.

I DO NOT have any opinion on the case right now...I'm not against you, im not on your side...I'm nowhere (as in not on the spectrum)

you have chosen one side already, you think Zimmerman is guilty, my point is that to me, I think NO ONE should have any opinion on this yet because I think it's unwise to jump to conclusions.

you can lean one way or another...but you, you are saying things like your opinion is based on facts and reacting with shock when someone suggests you may not be right.
[/quote]Yes I have chosen 1 side already and while I believe its the correct side, I acknowledge that I could be wrong, we're human we're not infallible

My opinion is based on certain facts like the unedited 911 call, the evidence at the crime scene, and the 911 call from a neighbor

[Morehead State]

[quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"]<FONT size=6>it's not that you have a different opinion kase...it's that you HAVE one at all that is the problem.</FONT>
[/quote]Maybe im misunderstanding you, but honestly that makes me wanna punch ya in the mouth. Way to play into the disrespectful and condescending role you fit oh so well, at least I believe that you can have an opinion albeit 'different' but at least I dont have a problem with you having one

You can deny it all you want, but you're 'on the spectrum'
[/quote]

yes you don't get it, you are misunderstanding me.

I DO NOT have any opinion on the case right now...I'm not against you, im not on your side...I'm nowhere (as in not on the spectrum)

you have chosen one side already, you think Zimmerman is guilty, my point is that to me, I think NO ONE should have any opinion on this yet because I think it's unwise to jump to conclusions.

you can lean one way or another...but you, you are saying things like your opinion is based on facts and reacting with shock when someone suggests you may not be right.
[/quote]Yes I have chosen 1 side already and while I believe its the correct side, I acknowledge that I could be wrong, we're human we're not infallible

My opinion is based on certain facts like the unedited 911 call, the evidence at the crime scene, and the 911 call from a neighbor
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What "evidence at the crime scene"? How could anyone know what that was?</P>

[Kase-1]

[quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="dezzzR"]And not for nothing, but i remember Kase getting all bent out of shape over the Sean Bell case as well. Not one cop was white, one looked white, but Al and Jessie got the media all worked up.
[/quote]Yea and I still believe that there was foul play

Big deal Al and Jessie got worked up, most black people dont agree with them on a TON of issues anyway. Big deal Al and Jessie stuck up for the people they represent, like Matt said do you feel that you have to stick up for 'white people' and if so, dont stick up for me
[/quote]On racism, they agree with them for the most part. They are always blaming someone, always pointing a finger. How can we get passed racism with idiots like these?
Jessie Jackson was caught saying hed like to cut Obamas nuts off when Obama was running for president because Obama said African American fathers need to step up and take responsibility. lol Hes a piece of crap.

Not one cop in the Sean Bell case was white, one looked white, and they made it allllll about racism.





[/quote]Who's this 'they' you're talking about??

Al and Jessie may have tried to make it about racism but in truth is was about overzealous police procedures and ANOTHER unarmed shooting. You may have seen race all over it but I was upset because of an unarmed man getting OVER-SHOT by the cops, its not all about race to me man

[Kase-1]

[quote user="Morehead State"]

What "evidence at the crime scene"? How could anyone know what that was?</p>[/quote]Simply put, Zimmerman had a gun, Martin did not

That along with the UNEDITED 911 calls were enough for me

[Morehead State]

[quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"]


What "evidence at the crime scene"? How could anyone know what that was?</P>


[/quote]Simply put, Zimmerman had a gun, Martin did not

That along with the UNEDITED 911 calls were enough for me


[/quote]</P>


If it were only that simple Kase.</P>

[Morehead State]

And Kase...What do you think happened here? Do you think he hunted him down and just shot him for no reason? Do you think he just was all of the sudden filled with hate that he just killed the kid because he wanted to? </P>


You have already claimed that "there was no sign of a struggle".</P>


What do you actually think happened?</P>

[Kase-1]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"]


What "evidence at the crime scene"? How could anyone know what that was?</p>


[/quote]Simply put, Zimmerman had a gun, Martin did not

That along with the UNEDITED 911 calls were enough for me


[/quote]</p>


If it were only that simple Kase.</p>[/quote]In NY he would have been arrested on scene, you cant shoot people outside of your house and not get arrested. Even if its 100% self defense you would probably get arrested, processed, and eventually proven innocent.