but the first SB he took our team down the field and scored the winning TD with seconds left, sure our defense held an explosive offense to minimal scoring to put him into that position....but once in that position he did what many...in fact MOST other QB's would not be able to do, he deserves a TON of credit for the first superbowl...perhaps more for the second....but he is a MAJOR reason we won the first one also.
Eli's been VERY good (if not great) for 3 years straight statistically in my opinion, on top of that he's ALSO got 2 Super Bowl MVP's.
you ask the question...
Is Eli great?
the answer is ALREADY....a resounding yes...anything he does from here on out is just extra, Eli is already a HOF calibur QB even if he stops right now.
Its another example that stats aren't the determining factor for the Hall like they are in baseball. Great players get in and very good players don't, no matter what the stats.
If it was just stats, then Vinny Testeverde, Kerry Collins nad Steve Deberg would get to the Hall.
oh my what did I do...
he had 1 really good season, and overall, a rather low completion % as a QB, significantly worse INT seasons than Eli, a sub .500 winning record, and only had 130 career starts despite a 12 year career. I dont think he fits into the "Great QB" discussion personally.
It's just that people get caught up in this cindarella story that happens always in the NFL...i mean, techincally we did the crazy underdog thing twice...lol
Last edited by JPizzack; 08-08-2012 at 03:06 PM.
Which brings me to my point. Now there was really no historical value (besides beating a 18-0 team) with Elis 2 superbowls BUT has there ever been a qb in the NFL that has been more clutch, reliable, dependable ect. with championship games(or any other games) on the line, than Eli Manning? He not only came through once but twice in two of the most critical moments.