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    Quote Originally Posted by JPizzack View Post
    he's not going to get that anywhere. lol
    Hope not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPizzack View Post
    agents are bad for the game period....i just dont see how this changes things one way or the other....
    you are right JP it probably doesn't.....influenced or not Cruz has decided what he wants... he my well be asking to much he may end up screwing himself......time will tell....don't mean to bring things down but its starting to get crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPizzack View Post
    agents are bad for the game period....i just dont see how this changes things one way or the other....
    How are agents bad for the game? I don't get this at all. Is it your view that players shouldn't have representation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morehead State View Post
    How are agents bad for the game? I don't get this at all. Is it your view that players shouldn't have representation?
    I think people like Jayz and other entrepreneurs like him are bad for the game.

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    Cruz doesnt deserve anything over 8 a year imo

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    How is he only a system player? Riddle me that.
    Uh..go Giants?

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    ugh thats such a high number!!! paying "skill" ppositions is the woooorst!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudyy View Post
    How is he only a system player? Riddle me that.
    its the "product of the environment" argument.

    it's proven true with a team run by Eli Manning. we do it with TEs every year....and the Smith to Cruz transition speaks for itself. Obviously Cruz is a great athlete. that doesnt mean he'd be great in Oakland, or in Jacksonville, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPizzack View Post
    its the "product of the environment" argument.

    it's proven true with a team run by Eli Manning. we do it with TEs every year....and the Smith to Cruz transition speaks for itself. Obviously Cruz is a great athlete. that doesnt mean he'd be great in Oakland, or in Jacksonville, etc...
    But I feel as if people say that to belittle what Cruz has done...and in dezz's case, I can make that assumption.
    Uh..go Giants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudyy View Post
    How is he only a system player? Riddle me that.
    Cruz is like a better version of steve smith. Faster, more athletic, bigger. The reason why they are so successful is because they are always running options. They dont know what theyre running until they read the defense or Eli checks them.

    I wouldnt call him a system player because I think he can have success elsewhere unlike smith, but Cruz certainly wouldnt put up the numbers hes putting up here unless a top 5 qbs throwing to him.

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