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[JPizzack]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
no where backs that up pappy

minimum 1 year is what i've read...

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everything i've looked up has said 1 year minimum also.</P>


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http://gothamist.com/2006/11/01/pataki_toughens.php</P>


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as part of my notary training, i had to know classes of felonies. iknow that a class A Felonycarries a minimum 1 year. Thats all I remember about it.</P>

[Morehead State]

[quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
no where backs that up pappy

minimum 1 year is what i've read...

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everything i've looked up has said 1 year minimum also.</P>


[/quote]</P>


http://gothamist.com/2006/11/01/pataki_toughens.php</P>


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as part of my notary training, i had to know classes of felonies. iknow that a class A Felonycarries a minimum 1 year. Thats all I remember about it.</P>


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So your saying that the photo was an alien pretending to be Goege Pataki signing the law making the penalty 3 1/2 years?</P>

[dezzzR]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]The guy discharged an unregistered handgun in a public place, with no permit to carry. Joe Schmo would have gotten 5 years.[/quote]

This part is completely untrue Morehead, from what I can tell based on statistics from previous plea's under the same charge, Joe Schmo would have got anywhere from 3-6 months...."Rich" Schmo likely would have gotten off with no jail time at all.
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Not in NYC Daven.</p>


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I'm talking about ONLY NYC Morehead, back when this happened I looked that up....Joe Schmo in NYC would most likely have gotten 3-6 Months in Plax's position, there is no doubt in my mind that he was treated differently because of his fame.
[/quote]you are correct
http://www.dnainfo.com/20110224/uppe...ve-compartment
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OK, are you guys telling me that a guy who stuffed his gun (registered in FL) in his glove box in Florida (his home) and then forgot it was there and drove to NYC is the same as a guy who lives in NY/NJ and stuffs an unregistered, loaded gun in his pants, goes to a crowded club and accidentally discharges it in that club?</p>


Welcome to Fantasyland.</p>[/quote]no morehead. we(well i am anyway) are tellingyou that these gun laws are silly. if i wanted to shoot you, im not going to use my registered hand gun. why? cause police will just trace it back to me and i go to jail for murder even though it would totally be worth it. as long as you have a gun registered in any state in the us, you should be able to carry it anywhere. it was expired, and you cant charge plax for being a moron. people are acting like hes the first person to shoot a gun in a bar.

[shocknaweny]

[quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="shocknaweny"]


good afternoon gentlemen.</P>


[/quote]Hey-from the Great White Way! Is that a name for Canada? Idk.
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Hhahahahha...never heard Canada called that. </P>


What happened when the Lakers got swept ?? I was listening to FOX radio on my drive home from the cottage and they said it was 100-68 for Dallas and Odom and Artest were being escorted out by Police ! WTF !!!</P>

[Morehead State]

[quote user="shocknaweny"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="shocknaweny"]


good afternoon gentlemen.</P>


[/quote]Hey-from the Great White Way! Is that a name for Canada? Idk.
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Hhahahahha...never heard Canada called that. </P>


What happened when the Lakers got swept ?? I was listening to FOX radio on my drive home from the cottage and they said it was 100-68 for Dallas and Odom and Artest were being escorted out by Police ! WTF !!!</P>


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I think he meant "the Great White North".</P>

[JPizzack]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
no where backs that up pappy

minimum 1 year is what i've read...

[/quote]</P>


everything i've looked up has said 1 year minimum also.</P>


[/quote]</P>


http://gothamist.com/2006/11/01/pataki_toughens.php</P>


[/quote]</P>


as part of my notary training, i had to know classes of felonies. iknow that a class A Felonycarries a minimum 1 year. Thats all I remember about it.</P>


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So your saying that the photo was an alien pretending to be Goege Pataki signing the law making the penalty 3 1/2 years?</P>


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well, i know the New York state guidelines. which is why I said that.
In NY, possessing an illegal firearm is a Class A felony.
NYC is special, and has it's own seperate laws, so I guess it'd be a class B felony.</P>

[Morehead State]

[quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]The guy discharged an unregistered handgun in a public place, with no permit to carry. Joe Schmo would have gotten 5 years.[/quote]

This part is completely untrue Morehead, from what I can tell based on statistics from previous plea's under the same charge, Joe Schmo would have got anywhere from 3-6 months...."Rich" Schmo likely would have gotten off with no jail time at all.
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Not in NYC Daven.</P>


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I'm talking about ONLY NYC Morehead, back when this happened I looked that up....Joe Schmo in NYC would most likely have gotten 3-6 Months in Plax's position, there is no doubt in my mind that he was treated differently because of his fame.
[/quote]you are correct
http://www.dnainfo.com/20110224/uppe...ve-compartment
[/quote]</P>


OK, are you guys telling me that a guy who stuffed his gun (registered in FL) in his glove box in Florida (his home) and then forgot it was there and drove to NYC is the same as a guy who lives in NY/NJ and stuffs an unregistered, loaded gun in his pants, goes to a crowded club and accidentally discharges it in that club?</P>


Welcome to Fantasyland.</P>


[/quote]no morehead. we(well i am anyway) are tellingyou that these gun laws are silly. if i wanted to shoot you, im not going to use my registered hand gun. why? cause police will just trace it back to me and i go to jail for murder even though it would totally be worth it. as long as you have a gun registered in any state in the us, you should be able to carry it anywhere. it was expired, and you cant charge plax for being a moron. people are acting like hes the first person to shoot a gun in a bar.

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I'm not saying the laws are or aren't silly. I'm saying that they are what they are and that Bloomberg's public statements about Plaxico didn't effect the result of the case.</P>


Poor decisions by Plaxico and his attorney when they offered him a much more favorable deal than what he eventually got, was the reason.</P>

[JPizzack]

[quote user="shocknaweny"]What happened when the Lakers got swept ?? I was listening to FOX radio on my drive home from the cottage and they said it was 100-68 for Dallas and Odom and Artest were being escorted out by Police ! WTF !!![/quote]</P>


lol, no, they were in Dallas, so when each got ejected, they were just escorted by whatever cops were on security there, they werent arrested or anything.</P>


Odom blindsided Nowitzki to "man him up" and it was just a terrible decision to use force at that moment.
Bynum's was worse. he basically speared JJ Barea out of the air while he was driving to the hoop.

I did read though, that Nowitzki swatted a practice free throw of Odom's for no reason which is why he got pissed? i dont really know what that means, and i didnt see anything happen, so...im not sure what the deal with all that was...</P>


oh, and Artest basically hit Barea in the face...lol</P>


so awful....what a display of unsportsmanlike conduct all around by the Lakers.</P>

[byron]

<P sb_id="ms__id4982">In New York criminal possession of a weapon, for the purposes of "gun cases" is classified into three "degrees" or levels of seriousness. Criminal Possession of a Weapon in the Second Degree, Third Degree, and Fourth Degree.</P>
<P sb_id="ms__id4983">Criminal Possession of a Weapon in the Second Degree is a class C felony, Third Degree is a class D felony, and Fourth Degree is a class A misdemeanor.</P>
<P sb_id="ms__id4984">The class C felony is punishable by a maximum of 15 years in prison, the D felony by a maximum of 7 years in prison, and the A misdemeanor by a maximum of 1 year in jail. Also, there is a theoretical 1 year mandatory jail sentence on any felony gun conviction</P>
<P sb_id="ms__id4984">only in New York</P>

[dezzzR]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]The guy discharged an unregistered handgun in a public place, with no permit to carry. Joe Schmo would have gotten 5 years.[/quote]

This part is completely untrue Morehead, from what I can tell based on statistics from previous plea's under the same charge, Joe Schmo would have got anywhere from 3-6 months...."Rich" Schmo likely would have gotten off with no jail time at all.
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Not in NYC Daven.</p>


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I'm talking about ONLY NYC Morehead, back when this happened I looked that up....Joe Schmo in NYC would most likely have gotten 3-6 Months in Plax's position, there is no doubt in my mind that he was treated differently because of his fame.
[/quote]you are correct
http://www.dnainfo.com/20110224/uppe...ve-compartment
[/quote]</p>


OK, are you guys telling me that a guy who stuffed his gun (registered in FL) in his glove box in Florida (his home) and then forgot it was there and drove to NYC is the same as a guy who lives in NY/NJ and stuffs an unregistered, loaded gun in his pants, goes to a crowded club and accidentally discharges it in that club?</p>


Welcome to Fantasyland.</p>


[/quote]no morehead. we(well i am anyway) are tellingyou that these gun laws are silly. if i wanted to shoot you, im not going to use my registered hand gun. why? cause police will just trace it back to me and i go to jail for murder even though it would totally be worth it. as long as you have a gun registered in any state in the us, you should be able to carry it anywhere. it was expired, and you cant charge plax for being a moron. people are acting like hes the first person to shoot a gun in a bar.

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I'm not saying the laws are or aren't silly. I'm saying that they are what they are and that Bloomberg's public statements about Plaxico didn't effect the result of the case.</p>


Poor decisions by Plaxico and his attorney when they offered him a much more favorable deal than what he eventually got, was the reason.</p>[/quote]mayors a powerful man im sure he did.