THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

[lttaylor56]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="JPizzack"]wow Morehead....why are you still comparing Bradshaw and Williams? what the hell do I care? Did I ever even compare the 2 ever? Did I say Williams is better than AB? Find me that post. Still trying to figure out why you're talking. I said what Matt said, that they would get the same type of deal but would guess Williams would get more. People like numbers.[/quote]</p>


Yes you did.</p>


<font size="2">D-Will will get more than Bradshaw...im like 98% sure...

The other 2% is because 98% of people in the world are really *** stupid.</font></p>


......Pizzlestick</p>


Not only do you think Dwill will get a better contract, but you suggest if you think otherwise, you must be stupid.</p>


I am really fine with your view about this. But since you claim that if you disagree you must be stupid, I felt I must retort.</p>


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I thought we were done?</p>


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Well this was from last night.</p>


But as you know its not over until Morehead says its over.</p>[/quote]lmao

[dezzzR]

[quote user="ny06"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="ny06"]


I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </p>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </p>


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If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</p>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</p>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</p>


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Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
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With a projected cap of $120MM and a current salary total of $123.4MM. All with no draft picks or UFA's signed, it will be tough to keep Bradshaw. Near impossible.</p>


And of course, thats without signing any free agents. There are going to be a lot of "former Giants" out there unless a lot of guys take some huge pay cuts.<font color="#0000ff"> I could also see us cutting O'Hara</font> and trying to deal Osi. Its seems to me that we are in salary cap hell right now.</p>


And I said a "slight" possibility because his recent injury history might keep him from getting a huge contract.</p>


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O'hara and his$3.45 million left on his contract can take a walk..</p>[/quote]no love for ohara???

[lttaylor56]

[quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="ny06"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="ny06"]


I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </p>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </p>


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If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</p>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</p>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</p>


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Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
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With a projected cap of $120MM and a current salary total of $123.4MM. All with no draft picks or UFA's signed, it will be tough to keep Bradshaw. Near impossible.</p>


And of course, thats without signing any free agents. There are going to be a lot of "former Giants" out there unless a lot of guys take some huge pay cuts.<font color="#0000ff"> I could also see us cutting O'Hara</font> and trying to deal Osi. Its seems to me that we are in salary cap hell right now.</p>


And I said a "slight" possibility because his recent injury history might keep him from getting a huge contract.</p>


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O'hara and his$3.45 million left on his contract can take a walk..</p>[/quote]no love for ohara???
[/quote]It's gotta be the questionable injury.

[Morehead State]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="JPizzack"]I'm not sure why you would assume that I meant the same year he got injured. Anyone who can look at a page of stats for 5 seconds can see the 6 games he played were clearly NOT good. So there's nothing to backtrack from....just you not comprehending what I typed, or misunderstanding. So this argument would be completely pointless if you just accept that. You're trying to make points about things I/we already know instead of just admitting you misread what i said. Think what you want, but by you thinking that I thought his 6 games was "an amazing season", and then stating that it is what I meant, you are basically saying I'm a ****ing idiot. If I know you at all, then you should already know that this is not true, and accept that you understood what I had written as something completely different than what I meant.[/quote]</P>


I was wondering why you said such a stupid thing Pizz. As I said in my previous post, you clearly had problems reading my post properly and as a consequence, responded inappropriately.</P>


Now putting that aside, lets review the facts about Bradshaw and Williams.</P>


Please let me know where I am incorrect.</P>


1. Bradshaw has missed only 1 game in the past 2 years</P>


2. DWill has missed 13</P>


3. Bradshaw had 1235 yards rushing in 2010.</P>


4. DWill had 361 yards in 2010, then got hurt and missed 10 games.</P>


5. RB's who have shown evidence of breaking down have fallen in disfavor in the NFL in recent years.</P>


6. I would submit that missing 3 games in 2009, and 10 games in 2010, is showing signs of breaking down to a reasonable person.</P>


7. Morehead thinks Pizz is as cute as he can be.</P>


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he also had alot of ankle nad knee surgery and was pretty much on limited carries for half of 2009.

Dwilll did have his season ending injury last year that isn't going to effect his cash.

Do you not think DWill will at least get as much as bradshaw but probably more
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Matt, I would tend to believe that Bradshaw would command a bit more than Dwill, given the reasons I've already stated. If he signs back with us, he might take a tad less (home town discount) than he would otherwise on the open market.</P>


RB's that have shown some signs of breaking down (and I'm not saying that Dwill is breaking down, but there are red flags over the past two years that GM's will certainly consider) tend not to do well in free agency.</P>

[JPizzack]

[quote user="lttaylor56"]Yes-I def enjoyed it. Sorry to see FNL go. I may watch some King of Thrones on demand now. Any idea when Kenny Powers gets going?
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Game of Thrones? It's nominated for like 14 emmys.
awesome ****in' show.</P>

[Morehead State]

[quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="ny06"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="ny06"]


I bet when the cba get's done the Giants will make Bradshaw there first player they resign. </P>


Of course the Dolphins are interested in Bradshaw, I bet numerous teams are as well. </P>


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If I were a betting man. (and we all know I'm not) I would say that we will lose Bradshaw and Cofield and resign Kiwi and Steve Smith.</P>


I do see a slight possibility that we sign Deangelo Williams.</P>


Just a guess based on my evil genius.</P>


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Dwill will get a comparable if not bigger contract than Bradshaw so i say your dead wrong
[/quote]</P>


With a projected cap of $120MM and a current salary total of $123.4MM. All with no draft picks or UFA's signed, it will be tough to keep Bradshaw. Near impossible.</P>


And of course, thats without signing any free agents. There are going to be a lot of "former Giants" out there unless a lot of guys take some huge pay cuts.<FONT color=#0000ff> I could also see us cutting O'Hara</FONT> and trying to deal Osi. Its seems to me that we are in salary cap hell right now.</P>


And I said a "slight" possibility because his recent injury history might keep him from getting a huge contract.</P>


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O'hara and his$3.45 million left on his contract can take a walk..</P>


[/quote]no love for ohara???
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I think Ohara is a good football player. But the reality of the Giants cap situation may force JR to make some very tough decisions. We'd like to keep everybody and sign a few outside free agents, but that just aint happening.</P>


Thats why I figure we have the best chance to resign both Kiwi and Smith since they are coming off injuries and would probably not do especially well in free agency.</P>


As for Cofield and Bradshaw, they are likely to do very well in free agency and we may not be able to compete in a bidding war. I would say given our drafts over the past 2 years, Cofield will most likely be gone.</P>

[dezzzR]

i have a stupid question. a team can renew a players contracts at any time, right? like the giants can give osi a new contract any time the feel its necessary or they can only give him a new contract during free agency?

[lttaylor56]

[quote user="JPizzack"]

[quote user="lttaylor56"]Yes-I def enjoyed it. Sorry to see FNL go. I may watch some King of Thrones on demand now. Any idea when Kenny Powers gets going?
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Game of Thrones? It's nominated for like 14 emmys.
awesome ****in' show.</p>[/quote]"game" yeah. I am leaning towards checking it out.

So after 14 hours in the sun this past weekend.....your skin pigmentation resembles an illegal?

[dezzzR]

so what was worked out in this lockout? hows the game going to change? is it for the worst?

[Morehead State]

[quote user="dezzzR"]i have a stupid question. a team can renew a players contracts at any time, right? like the giants can give osi a new contract any time the feel its necessary or they can only give him a new contract during free agency?
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Osi isn't a free agent. We can give him a new deal/extension (after the lockout is lifted) at any time. As for our own free agents (bradshaw/Cofield etc...) we will be able to negotiate with them exclusively (by exclusively I mean that no other teams can contact them) for probably three days starting on Monday. On Thursday (according to reports) open free agency will begin.</P>