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    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i think im with the Canuck on this actually...

    now if you'll excuse me...





    [/quote]shaad up... but thanks lol

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    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="ny06"]


    Bautista</P>



    <TABLE>
    <TBODY>
    <TR>
    <TH>BA</TH>
    <TH>HR</TH>
    <TH>RBI</TH>
    <TH>OBP</TH>
    <TH>SLG</TH></TR>
    <TR>
    <TD>.330</TD>
    <TD>31</TD>
    <TD>66</TD>
    <TD>.464</TD>
    <TD>.686</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>


    Gonzalez</P>



    <TABLE>
    <TBODY>
    <TR>
    <TH>BA</TH>
    <TH>HR</TH>
    <TH>RBI</TH>
    <TH>OBP</TH>
    <TH>SLG</TH></TR>
    <TR>
    <TD>.343</TD>
    <TD>17</TD>
    <TD>78</TD>
    <TD>.405</TD>
    <TD>.563</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>


    [/quote]

    wowwww

    i dunno

    i didn't realize how good bautistas numbers were

    i think i'd actually give Bautista the nod. If he had as many base runners as Agonz he would of passed him
    [/quote]</P>


    Bautista is a beast no question. </P>


    But when deciding on mid-season MVP I factored defense as well. Tex is the best firstbaseman in baseball, Gonzo is a close second. </P>


    Gonzo is 1st in hits, tied for 1st in doubles, 1st in batting average, 5th in runs, 3rd on base %</P>


    </P>

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    [quote user="bandwgn86"]how bout 332 with 66 rbis 467 OBP 690 SLG and a OPS of 1.157 oh and 31 hrs. and to say hes not helping is laughable.. what would this teams record be without him[/quote]</P>


    Ask Miguel Cabrera about winning MVP on .500 teams....</P>
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    [quote user="ny06"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="ny06"]


    Bautista</p>



    <table>
    <tbody>
    <tr>
    <th>BA</th>
    <th>HR</th>
    <th>RBI</th>
    <th>OBP</th>
    <th>SLG</th></tr>
    <tr>
    <td>.330</td>
    <td>31</td>
    <td>66</td>
    <td>.464</td>
    <td>.686</td></tr></tbody></table></p>


    Gonzalez</p>



    <table>
    <tbody>
    <tr>
    <th>BA</th>
    <th>HR</th>
    <th>RBI</th>
    <th>OBP</th>
    <th>SLG</th></tr>
    <tr>
    <td>.343</td>
    <td>17</td>
    <td>78</td>
    <td>.405</td>
    <td>.563</td></tr></tbody></table></p>


    [/quote]

    wowwww

    i dunno

    i didn't realize how good bautistas numbers were

    i think i'd actually give Bautista the nod. If he had as many base runners as Agonz he would of passed him
    [/quote]</p>


    Bautista is a beast no question. </p>


    But when deciding on mid-season MVP I factored defense as well. Tex is the best firstbaseman in baseball, Gonzo is a close second. </p>


    Gonzo is 1st in hits, tied for 1st in doubles, 1st in batting average, 5th in runs, 3rd on base %</p>


    </p>[/quote]

    yea but runs and rbis are based on the team around you

    MVP is about individual performance

    to be on pace for 60 and have 66 hrs and have significant better OBP - thats where it should be at.

    I wish there was a stat of like how many base runners he had a chance to knock in vs how many he did...



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    [quote user="ny06"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="ny06"]


    Bautista</P>



    <TABLE>
    <TBODY>
    <TR>
    <TH>BA</TH>
    <TH>HR</TH>
    <TH>RBI</TH>
    <TH>OBP</TH>
    <TH>SLG</TH></TR>
    <TR>
    <TD>.330</TD>
    <TD>31</TD>
    <TD>66</TD>
    <TD>.464</TD>
    <TD>.686</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>


    Gonzalez</P>



    <TABLE>
    <TBODY>
    <TR>
    <TH>BA</TH>
    <TH>HR</TH>
    <TH>RBI</TH>
    <TH>OBP</TH>
    <TH>SLG</TH></TR>
    <TR>
    <TD>.343</TD>
    <TD>17</TD>
    <TD>78</TD>
    <TD>.405</TD>
    <TD>.563</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>


    [/quote]

    wowwww

    i dunno

    i didn't realize how good bautistas numbers were

    i think i'd actually give Bautista the nod. If he had as many base runners as Agonz he would of passed him
    [/quote]</P>


    Bautista is a beast no question. </P>


    But when deciding on mid-season MVP I factored defense as well. Tex is the best firstbaseman in baseball, Gonzo is a close second. </P>


    Gonzo is 1st in hits, tied for 1st in doubles, 1st in batting average, 5th in runs, 3rd on base %</P>


    </P>[/quote]if you want defense how about JB being able to play infeild and outfeild and play it well.. First base is for guys that can't play anywhere else..

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    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="ny06"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="ny06"]


    Bautista</P>



    <TABLE>
    <TBODY>
    <TR>
    <TH>BA</TH>
    <TH>HR</TH>
    <TH>RBI</TH>
    <TH>OBP</TH>
    <TH>SLG</TH></TR>
    <TR>
    <TD>.330</TD>
    <TD>31</TD>
    <TD>66</TD>
    <TD>.464</TD>
    <TD>.686</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>


    Gonzalez</P>



    <TABLE>
    <TBODY>
    <TR>
    <TH>BA</TH>
    <TH>HR</TH>
    <TH>RBI</TH>
    <TH>OBP</TH>
    <TH>SLG</TH></TR>
    <TR>
    <TD>.343</TD>
    <TD>17</TD>
    <TD>78</TD>
    <TD>.405</TD>
    <TD>.563</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>


    [/quote]

    wowwww

    i dunno

    i didn't realize how good bautistas numbers were

    i think i'd actually give Bautista the nod. If he had as many base runners as Agonz he would of passed him
    [/quote]</P>


    Bautista is a beast no question. </P>


    But when deciding on mid-season MVP I factored defense as well. Tex is the best firstbaseman in baseball, Gonzo is a close second. </P>


    Gonzo is 1st in hits, tied for 1st in doubles, 1st in batting average, 5th in runs, 3rd on base %</P>


    </P>


    [/quote]

    yea but runs and rbis are based on the team around you

    MVP is about individual performance

    to be on pace for 60 and have 66 hrs and have significant better OBP - thats where it should be at.

    I wish there was a stat of like how many base runners he had a chance to knock in vs how many he did...


    [/quote]</P>


    If Bautista hits about 60 homeruns and is batting over .300 at the end of the season then he will win the MVP hands down. </P>


    I find that very unlikely, he's not Albert Pujols or A-Rod. </P>

    Giants fan since the early 80s

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    [quote user="bandwgn86"]how bout 332 with 66 rbis 467 OBP 690 SLG and a OPS of 1.157 oh and 31 hrs. and to say hes not helping is laughable.. what would this teams record be without him[/quote]</P>


    Ask Miguel Cabrera about winning MVP on .500 teams....</P>[/quote]never will understand the voting

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    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
    yea but runs and rbis are based on the team around you

    MVP is about individual performance

    to be on pace for 60 and have 66 hrs and have significant better OBP - thats where it should be at.

    I wish there was a stat of like how many base runners he had a chance to knock in vs how many he did...


    [/quote]</P>


    misconception.
    That's now how the voters do things.

    oh, and there is that stat... look at LOB vs ABs</P>
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    [quote user="bandwgn86"][quote user="ny06"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="ny06"]


    Bautista</P>



    <TABLE>
    <TBODY>
    <TR>
    <TH>BA</TH>
    <TH>HR</TH>
    <TH>RBI</TH>
    <TH>OBP</TH>
    <TH>SLG</TH></TR>
    <TR>
    <TD>.330</TD>
    <TD>31</TD>
    <TD>66</TD>
    <TD>.464</TD>
    <TD>.686</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>


    Gonzalez</P>



    <TABLE>
    <TBODY>
    <TR>
    <TH>BA</TH>
    <TH>HR</TH>
    <TH>RBI</TH>
    <TH>OBP</TH>
    <TH>SLG</TH></TR>
    <TR>
    <TD>.343</TD>
    <TD>17</TD>
    <TD>78</TD>
    <TD>.405</TD>
    <TD>.563</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>


    [/quote]

    wowwww

    i dunno

    i didn't realize how good bautistas numbers were

    i think i'd actually give Bautista the nod. If he had as many base runners as Agonz he would of passed him
    [/quote]</P>


    Bautista is a beast no question. </P>


    But when deciding on mid-season MVP I factored defense as well. Tex is the best firstbaseman in baseball, Gonzo is a close second. </P>


    Gonzo is 1st in hits, tied for 1st in doubles, 1st in batting average, 5th in runs, 3rd on base %</P>


    </P>


    [/quote]if you want defense how about JB being able to play infeild and outfeild and play it well.. First base is for guys that can't play anywhere else..[/quote]</P>


    There is a reason they moved him twice, if he was so good at one position why move him? </P>

    Giants fan since the early 80s

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    [quote user="ny06"]If Bautista hits about 60 homeruns and is batting over .300 at the end of the season then he will win the MVP hands down.


    I find that very unlikely, he's not Albert Pujols or A-Rod. </P>


    [/quote]</P>


    I have nothing against Bautista or anything. In fact I like him.

    I just feel as though his average says that he's playing a bit above his own level right now. I'll eat crow on that of course if it remains a constant.
    </P>
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