THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

[Morehead State]

This is an off-season argument. Eli has a chance to move up Morehead's list with a good season.</P>


But he has some young players out there who could also pass him. He better pick up his friggin game.</P>

[MattMeyerBud]

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[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
[/quote]
I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
[/quote]

WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
[/quote]</p>


Maybe #10. At best.</p>


[/quote]

stop it

Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

Eli - Rivers - Ben

nobody else even in the conversation

i'll give u 8 at worst
[/quote]</p>


Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</p>


Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</p>


Stop being so "Matt-like".</p>


[/quote]

GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

ur on crack
[/quote]</p>


Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</p>


9 + 6 + 5= 20</p>


Eli = 25</p>


Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was unacceptable.</p>


[/quote]

your strengeth of schedule was a brutal point...

ELi had 25 and how many were off of WRs hands and how many were due to wrong routes being run by young receivers

understand the offense and what its asking our QBs and WRs to do...

Then couple in the loss of WRs and having guys in the street come out and play

but besides all of that, if u think qouting Eli taking the blame some how reaffirms your point then not only do u apparently know less about our offense than i thought but Eli in general
[/quote]</p>


What I think is that 25 picks sucks. Every QB has guys deflect balls that get picked. Ryan threw 9 picks. Freeman threw 6. Its not like its close. Even if I give you the point (which I don't) that 7 or 8 balls deflected and were not on Eli, thats still 3 times as many picks as Freeman and twice as many as Ryan.</p>


Turnovers kill a teams chances of winning. Protecting the ball is one of the most important thing a QB <u>must do</u>.</p>


<font size="4">Eli failed.</font></p>


Lets hope he refocuses his efforts this season and places a higher priority on ball protection. He was reckless with it last year.</p>[/quote]

i agree turnovers kill

nobody has nearly as many or blatant tips as eli last year. Not many teams run these stupid option read offense to the degrees we do

You failed

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
[/quote]
I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
[/quote]

WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
[/quote]</p>


Maybe #10. At best.</p>


[/quote]

stop it

Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

Eli - Rivers - Ben

nobody else even in the conversation

i'll give u 8 at worst
[/quote]</p>


Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</p>


Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</p>


Stop being so "Matt-like".</p>


[/quote]

GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

ur on crack
[/quote]</p>


Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</p>


9 + 6 + 5= 20</p>


Eli = 25</p>


Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was unacceptable.</p>


[/quote]

your strengeth of schedule was a brutal point...

ELi had 25 and how many were off of WRs hands and how many were due to wrong routes being run by young receivers

understand the offense and what its asking our QBs and WRs to do...

Then couple in the loss of WRs and having guys in the street come out and play

but besides all of that, if u think qouting Eli taking the blame some how reaffirms your point then not only do u apparently know less about our offense than i thought but Eli in general
[/quote]</p>


What I think is that 25 picks sucks. Every QB has guys deflect balls that get picked. Ryan threw 9 picks. Freeman threw 6. Its not like its close. Even if I give you the point (which I don't) that 7 or 8 balls deflected and were not on Eli, thats still 3 times as many picks as Freeman and twice as many as Ryan.</p>


Turnovers kill a teams chances of winning. Protecting the ball is one of the most important thing a QB <u>must do</u>.</p>


<font size="4">Eli failed.</font></p>


Lets hope he refocuses his efforts this season and places a higher priority on ball protection. He was reckless with it last year.</p>[/quote]

i agree turnovers kill

nobody has nearly as many or blatant tips as eli last year. Not many teams run these stupid option read offense to the degrees we do

You failed

[Morehead State]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
[/quote]
I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
[/quote]

WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
[/quote]</P>


Maybe #10. At best.</P>


[/quote]

stop it

Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

Eli - Rivers - Ben

nobody else even in the conversation

i'll give u 8 at worst
[/quote]</P>


Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</P>


Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</P>


Stop being so "Matt-like".</P>


[/quote]

GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

ur on crack
[/quote]</P>


Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</P>


9 + 6 + 5= 20</P>


Eli = 25</P>


Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was unacceptable.</P>


[/quote]

your strengeth of schedule was a brutal point...

ELi had 25 and how many were off of WRs hands and how many were due to wrong routes being run by young receivers

understand the offense and what its asking our QBs and WRs to do...

Then couple in the loss of WRs and having guys in the street come out and play

but besides all of that, if u think qouting Eli taking the blame some how reaffirms your point then not only do u apparently know less about our offense than i thought but Eli in general
[/quote]</P>


What I think is that 25 picks sucks. Every QB has guys deflect balls that get picked. Ryan threw 9 picks. Freeman threw 6. Its not like its close. Even if I give you the point (which I don't) that 7 or 8 balls deflected and were not on Eli, thats still 3 times as many picks as Freeman and twice as many as Ryan.</P>


Turnovers kill a teams chances of winning. Protecting the ball is one of the most important thing a QB <U>must do</U>.</P>


<FONT size=4>Eli failed.</FONT></P>


Lets hope he refocuses his efforts this season and places a higher priority on ball protection. He was reckless with it last year.</P>


[/quote]

i agree turnovers kill

nobody has nearly as many or blatant tips as eli last year. Not many teams run these stupid option read offense to the degrees we do

You failed
[/quote]</P>


Morehead is a winner.</P>

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="byron"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
[/quote]
I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
[/quote]

WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
[/quote]</p>


Maybe #10. At best.</p>


[/quote]

stop it

Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

Eli - Rivers - Ben

nobody else even in the conversation

i'll give u 8 at worst
[/quote]</p>


Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</p>


Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</p>


Stop being so "Matt-like".</p>


[/quote]

GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

ur on crack
[/quote]</p>


Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</p>


9 + 6 + 5= 20</p>


Eli = 25</p>


Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was <font color="#0000ff">unacceptable</font>.</p>


[/quote] sure it is but areyou judging him on one stat one year? I like Davens list but I would put rogers at 2the guy can make something out of nothing[/quote]</p>


I'm not judging him on that by itself. I saw the old Eli last season. I saw a reckless Eli. I saw a guy who threw the ball up for grabs when he was under pressure.</p>


Its not just the stats. Its the lack of judgement. Its the bad decision making.</p>


<font size="4">Throw the friggin ball away once in a while for God's sake.</font></p>[/quote]

that taking the sack thing isn't what playmakers do

and u laugh when I say hes a gunslinger

more farvish than anyone in the league. Hes a ballsy guy

i wish we can throw u away every once in a while

[dezzzR]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
[/quote]
I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
[/quote]

WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
[/quote]</p>


Maybe #10. At best.</p>


[/quote]

stop it

Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

Eli - Rivers - Ben

nobody else even in the conversation

i'll give u 8 at worst
[/quote]</p>


Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</p>


Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</p>


Stop being so "Matt-like".</p>


[/quote]

GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

ur on crack
[/quote]</p>


Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</p>


9 + 6 + 5= 20</p>


Eli = 25</p>


Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was unacceptable.</p>


[/quote]

your strengeth of schedule was a brutal point...

ELi had 25 and how many were off of WRs hands and how many were due to wrong routes being run by young receivers

understand the offense and what its asking our QBs and WRs to do...

Then couple in the loss of WRs and having guys in the street come out and play

but besides all of that, if u think qouting Eli taking the blame some how reaffirms your point then not only do u apparently know less about our offense than i thought but Eli in general
[/quote]</p>


What I think is that 25 picks sucks. Every QB has guys deflect balls that get picked. Ryan threw 9 picks. Freeman threw 6. Its not like its close. Even if I give you the point (which I don't) that 7 or 8 balls deflected and were not on Eli, thats still 3 times as many picks as Freeman and twice as many as Ryan.</p>


Turnovers kill a teams chances of winning. Protecting the ball is one of the most important thing a QB <u>must do</u>.</p>


<font size="4">Eli failed.</font></p>


Lets hope he refocuses his efforts this season and places a higher priority on ball protection. He was reckless with it last year.</p>[/quote]sorry, but you cant sit there and tell me eli failed when he threw 31 tds and was behind the number 1 scoring wr duo in nfl. if the wrs catch those tips hed have a 15 ints. thats a damn good qb if you ask me. again if high ints were recurring issue it would def be something to worried about, but its not

by the way, your sox are down 2-0. []

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Morehead State"]

This is an off-season argument. Eli has a chance to move up Morehead's list with a good season.</p>


But he has some young players out there who could also pass him. He better pick up his friggin game.</p>[/quote]

thats a fair comment
but putting Ryan ahead of Eli just shows your madness

and either way, the list u gave didn't have 9 QBs better, for the record

[Morehead State]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
[/quote]
I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
[/quote]

WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
[/quote]</P>


Maybe #10. At best.</P>


[/quote]

stop it

Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

Eli - Rivers - Ben

nobody else even in the conversation

i'll give u 8 at worst
[/quote]</P>


Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</P>


Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</P>


Stop being so "Matt-like".</P>


[/quote]

GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

ur on crack
[/quote]</P>


Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</P>


9 + 6 + 5= 20</P>


Eli = 25</P>


Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was unacceptable.</P>


[/quote]

your strengeth of schedule was a brutal point...

ELi had 25 and how many were off of WRs hands and how many were due to wrong routes being run by young receivers

understand the offense and what its asking our QBs and WRs to do...

Then couple in the loss of WRs and having guys in the street come out and play

but besides all of that, if u think qouting Eli taking the blame some how reaffirms your point then not only do u apparently know less about our offense than i thought but Eli in general
[/quote]</P>


What I think is that 25 picks sucks. Every QB has guys deflect balls that get picked. Ryan threw 9 picks. Freeman threw 6. Its not like its close. Even if I give you the point (which I don't) that 7 or 8 balls deflected and were not on Eli, thats still 3 times as many picks as Freeman and twice as many as Ryan.</P>


Turnovers kill a teams chances of winning. Protecting the ball is one of the most important thing a QB <U>must do</U>.</P>


<FONT size=4>Eli failed.</FONT></P>


Lets hope he refocuses his efforts this season and places a higher priority on ball protection. He was reckless with it last year.</P>


[/quote]

i agree turnovers kill

nobody has nearly as many or blatant tips as eli last year. Not many teams run these stupid option read offense to the degrees we do

You failed
[/quote]</P>


Did Mark Brunnell ever throw 25 picks in Gilbride's system? How about Warren Moon?</P>


</P>

[Morehead State]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="byron"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]I can't even believe Eli said he blocked good
[/quote]
I can't believe he said he belonged with Tom Brady and the other elite QB's.
[/quote]

WTF was he suppose to say? NO?!

Either way he is in that class regardless. Eli is a top 7 QB in the league, probably #7 but hes def up there.
[/quote]</P>


Maybe #10. At best.</P>


[/quote]

stop it

Rodgers - Breez - Brady - Peyton - Vick def

Eli - Rivers - Ben

nobody else even in the conversation

i'll give u 8 at worst
[/quote]</P>


Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Vick, Ben, Ryan are all better QB's right now than Eli.</P>


Right now I think Freeman is about to pass Eli like he's standing still.</P>


Stop being so "Matt-like".</P>


[/quote]

GTFO of here with that MAtt Ryan ****. He may be one of the most over hyped QBs of all time. Quite frankly im sick of hearing baout him

Freeman has ONE good year vs 4k and 30tds

ur on crack
[/quote]</P>


Take the three QB's you say Eli is better than (Ben, Ryan and Freeman) add up all their picks last year and they add up to 5 less than Eli threw by himself.</P>


9 + 6 + 5= 20</P>


Eli = 25</P>


Lets not revisit that again Matt. Even Eli suggested it was <FONT color=#0000ff>unacceptable</FONT>.</P>


[/quote] sure it is but areyou judging him on one stat one year? I like Davens list but I would put rogers at 2the guy can make something out of nothing[/quote]</P>


I'm not judging him on that by itself. I saw the old Eli last season. I saw a reckless Eli. I saw a guy who threw the ball up for grabs when he was under pressure.</P>


Its not just the stats. Its the lack of judgement. Its the bad decision making.</P>


<FONT size=4>Throw the friggin ball away once in a while for God's sake.</FONT></P>


[/quote]

that taking the sack thing isn't what playmakers do

and u laugh when I say hes a gunslinger

more farvish than anyone in the league. Hes a ballsy guy

i wish we can throw u away every once in a while
[/quote]</P>


You are confusing "gunslinger" with "stupid".</P>


"Ballsy" is standing in the pocket and taking the hit to wait for a guy to break open. "Ballsy" is taking the sack in order to prevent a turnover.</P>


"Ballsy" is not chucking it into coverage and ducking out of the way in the face of pressure.</P>

[Morehead State]

I have to go and mow my lawn.</P>


All you "its never Eli's fault" types think hard about what you've done.</P>