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    Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

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    wow. Now u may of not known who to believe in Reese/TC vs Smith

    but Mara? I dont second guess him at all
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    Re: THEE SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"] we all eat our crow when we get shut up.[/quote]

    LOL yeah...
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    [quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"] we all eat our crow when we get shut up.[/quote]

    LOL yeah...
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    well except maybe daven

    he then tries to turn his argument to the one he was arguing against and try and tell u that u were wrong

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    hahhaa i thought we were laughing at your stubborn ***.

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    Sometimes the way you present your information/points/argument is why you lose these discussions Matt.

    While I don't disagree with the point you are trying to make (which is Gilbrides system creates a lot of opportunities for interceptions) the question Morehead asked was did anyone else throw <font color="#0000FF" size="5">25</font> int's

    the answer to that question is, unquestionably, No no one else did.

    Now does it matter if it was 21 ints or 25 int's...obviously not lol, you are right in your overall point, but the fact that you threw 21 ints into moreheads face after he asked if anyone threw 25 or more makes you look silly.

    you are correct, Gilbrides offense creates opportunities for ints...but they are just opportunities until the mistake is made.

    Lando's statistics are the best grounds for arguing against Morehead right now...you should use those...we all saw all those tipped passes....the 25 ints was an honest case of "Bad Luck" for Eli last year...and that's all it was....it's good to see that the bad luck didn't get to him and he still managed to stay confident and throw for 4k+ yards and 31 TD's.

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    [quote user="DavenIII"]Sometimes the way you present your information/points/argument is why you lose these discussions Matt.

    While I don't disagree with the point you are trying to make (which is Gilbrides system creates a lot of opportunities for interceptions) the question Morehead asked was did anyone else throw <font color="#0000ff" size="5">25</font> int's

    the answer to that question is, unquestionably, No no one else did.

    Now does it matter if it was 21 ints or 25 int's...obviously not lol, you are right in your overall point, but the fact that you threw 21 ints into moreheads face after he asked if anyone threw 25 or more makes you look silly.

    you are correct, Gilbrides offense creates opportunities for ints...but they are just opportunities until the mistake is made.

    Lando's statistics are the best grounds for arguing against Morehead right now...you should use those...we all saw all those tipped passes....the 25 ints was an honest case of "Bad Luck" for Eli last year...and that's all it was....it's good to see that the bad luck didn't get to him and he still managed to stay confident and throw for 4k+ yards and 31 TD's.
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    i dont have to make it nice and pretty

    i was making a point about Gilbrides offense and mooreheads retort was to try and use Moon and Brunell as examples and it backfired, horribly.

    While I like LAndos stat assessment theres no way that they are hard facts. I do agree with the results but is it possible that even a couple more picks were on the WRs for running wrong routes or maybe more on Eli because he read the route wrong. Theres just no real way to justify those stats. They are cool and what they are trying to achieve i commend.

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    but Mara? I dont second guess him at all
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    Exaaaaaaaaaaactly. SS can say what he wants. The owner if the New York Giants wouldn't lie....

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    Appearing on WFAN Radio Wednesday, coach Tom
    Coughlin suggested that Mario Manningham will be the Giants' slot
    receiver if Victor Cruz or rookie Jerrel Jernigan doesn't step up to
    fill the role.</p>
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    In this scenario, Domenik Hixon and Hakeem
    Nicks would be the outside wideouts with Manningham moving inside for
    three-receiver sets. The Giants haven't seen enough from Cruz or
    Jernigan to place them among the club's top three receivers. It'd be a
    nice plus for Manningham's fantasy outlook in PPR leagues. He'd be
    playing the exact same role once manned by Steve Smith.
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    Appearing on WFAN Radio Wednesday, coach Tom
    Coughlin suggested that Mario Manningham will be the Giants' slot
    receiver if Victor Cruz or rookie Jerrel Jernigan doesn't step up to
    fill the role.</p>
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    In this scenario, Domenik Hixon and Hakeem
    Nicks would be the outside wideouts with Manningham moving inside for
    three-receiver sets. The Giants haven't seen enough from Cruz or
    Jernigan to place them among the club's top three receivers. It'd be a
    nice plus for Manningham's fantasy outlook in PPR leagues. He'd be
    playing the exact same role once manned by Steve Smith.
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    that songs like an even more explosive situation any way


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    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="DavenIII"]Sometimes the way you present your information/points/argument is why you lose these discussions Matt.

    While I don't disagree with the point you are trying to make (which is Gilbrides system creates a lot of opportunities for interceptions) the question Morehead asked was did anyone else throw <FONT color=#0000ff size=5>25</FONT> int's

    the answer to that question is, unquestionably, No no one else did.

    Now does it matter if it was 21 ints or 25 int's...obviously not lol, you are right in your overall point, but the fact that you threw 21 ints into moreheads face after he asked if anyone threw 25 or more makes you look silly.

    you are correct, Gilbrides offense creates opportunities for ints...but they are just opportunities until the mistake is made.

    Lando's statistics are the best grounds for arguing against Morehead right now...you should use those...we all saw all those tipped passes....the 25 ints was an honest case of "Bad Luck" for Eli last year...and that's all it was....it's good to see that the bad luck didn't get to him and he still managed to stay confident and throw for 4k+ yards and 31 TD's.
    [/quote]

    i dont have to make it nice and pretty

    i was making a point about Gilbrides offense and mooreheads retort was to try and use Moon and Brunell as examples and it backfired, horribly.

    While I like LAndos stat assessment theres no way that they are hard facts. I do agree with the results but is it possible that even a couple more picks were on the WRs for running wrong routes or maybe more on Eli because he read the route wrong. Theres just no real way to justify those stats. They are cool and what they are trying to achieve i commend.
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    Every possible outcome of this debate comes out with Morehead as the winner.</P>


    All is right with the universe.</P>


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    "Typical Morehead!"..................and he didn't even mean that as a compliment..

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