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[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="bigblue4417"]I don't think you are giving enough credit to Eli MH. We are all taught from a young age that if the ball hits your hands you should catch it...
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I'll ask you to look at the list that Dezz posted. All those picks that he actually holds Eli responsible for. Almost all can in games we lost. They cost us the TN game, the second Dallas game and the first Philly game.</P>


Eli's turnovers, blamed on Eli by an Eli apologist, clearly cost us three games last year.</P>


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As far as Eli goes, I am much more with you than I am with them. But I do think you need to cut him a little slack. Let's not even talk about sliding down and holding onto the ****ing ball. lol
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Just drives me nuts the blinders some guys have with Eli. I'm not saying he's bad QB. I think he's well above average and quite honestly has made the most of his ability. (He's not exactly the most athletic guy). But this "gunslinger" nonsense and blaming everyone under the sun for his poor decisions or poor passes drives me nuts.</P>


He still panics in the pocket and rushes throws, often into coverage. Thats not what a "gunslinger' does. "Gunslinger" take hits in order to wait for a guy to break open.</P>


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u try to pretend that balls the bounce of WRs hands are bad decisions, when in reality they are just bad plays by the WRs for not making the grabs


annnnddd here we go againnnn

Pappy makes his own definition of what a word means and expects us all to follow
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Those were mostly poor throws. he tended to get the ball up early in games last year.</P>


But when you look at Dez's video, you see some absolutely horrible decisions. Real high school stuff.</P>


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again either way i'd imagine that some of those balls are just completely unable to be determined WHOSE fault it is - both ways

I'll break it down when I ge thome
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The Eli Cultists seem to be able to determine it very easily.......Its always someone else's fault.</P>

[bigblue4417]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="bigblue4417"]I don't think you are giving enough credit to Eli MH. We are all taught from a young age that if the ball hits your hands you should catch it...
[/quote]</p>


I'll ask you to look at the list that Dezz posted. All those picks that he actually holds Eli responsible for. Almost all can in games we lost. They cost us the TN game, the second Dallas game and the first Philly game.</p>


Eli's turnovers, blamed on Eli by an Eli apologist, clearly cost us three games last year.</p>


[/quote]
As far as Eli goes, I am much more with you than I am with them. But I do think you need to cut him a little slack. Let's not even talk about sliding down and holding onto the ****ing ball. lol
[/quote]</p>


Just drives me nuts the blinders some guys have with Eli. I'm not saying he's bad QB. I think he's well above average and quite honestly has made the most of his ability. (He's not exactly the most athletic guy). But this "gunslinger" nonsense and blaming everyone under the sun for his poor decisions or poor passes drives me nuts.</p>


He still panics in the pocket and rushes throws, often into coverage. Thats not what a "gunslinger' does. "Gunslinger" take hits in order to wait for a guy to break open.</p>[/quote]
I totally agree. I always have a sinking feeling when Eli starts running around or is getting pressured. It's almost like most of the time you expect him to throw a pick vs make a nice pass. I have confidence in him but you just never know sometimes.....I expect him to be much better this year however.

[bigblue4417]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="bigblue4417"]I don't think you are giving enough credit to Eli MH. We are all taught from a young age that if the ball hits your hands you should catch it...
[/quote]</p>


I'll ask you to look at the list that Dezz posted. All those picks that he actually holds Eli responsible for. Almost all can in games we lost. They cost us the TN game, the second Dallas game and the first Philly game.</p>


Eli's turnovers, blamed on Eli by an Eli apologist, clearly cost us three games last year.</p>


[/quote]
As far as Eli goes, I am much more with you than I am with them. But I do think you need to cut him a little slack. Let's not even talk about sliding down and holding onto the ****ing ball. lol
[/quote]</p>


Just drives me nuts the blinders some guys have with Eli. I'm not saying he's bad QB. I think he's well above average and quite honestly has made the most of his ability. (He's not exactly the most athletic guy). But this "gunslinger" nonsense and blaming everyone under the sun for his poor decisions or poor passes drives me nuts.</p>


He still panics in the pocket and rushes throws, often into coverage. Thats not what a "gunslinger' does. "Gunslinger" take hits in order to wait for a guy to break open.</p>[/quote]

u try to pretend that balls the bounce of WRs hands are bad decisions, when in reality they are just bad plays by the WRs for not making the grabs


annnnddd here we go againnnn

Pappy makes his own definition of what a word means and expects us all to follow
[/quote]
Yeah, I do not agree with his definition of gunslinger at all. In his definition I would argue any QB should be willing to stay there and take the hit. It is what you are supposed to do.

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="bigblue4417"]I don't think you are giving enough credit to Eli MH. We are all taught from a young age that if the ball hits your hands you should catch it...
[/quote]</p>


I'll ask you to look at the list that Dezz posted. All those picks that he actually holds Eli responsible for. Almost all can in games we lost. They cost us the TN game, the second Dallas game and the first Philly game.</p>


Eli's turnovers, blamed on Eli by an Eli apologist, clearly cost us three games last year.</p>


[/quote]
As far as Eli goes, I am much more with you than I am with them. But I do think you need to cut him a little slack. Let's not even talk about sliding down and holding onto the ****ing ball. lol
[/quote]</p>


Just drives me nuts the blinders some guys have with Eli. I'm not saying he's bad QB. I think he's well above average and quite honestly has made the most of his ability. (He's not exactly the most athletic guy). But this "gunslinger" nonsense and blaming everyone under the sun for his poor decisions or poor passes drives me nuts.</p>


He still panics in the pocket and rushes throws, often into coverage. Thats not what a "gunslinger' does. "Gunslinger" take hits in order to wait for a guy to break open.</p>


[/quote]

u try to pretend that balls the bounce of WRs hands are bad decisions, when in reality they are just bad plays by the WRs for not making the grabs


annnnddd here we go againnnn

Pappy makes his own definition of what a word means and expects us all to follow
[/quote]</p>


Those were mostly poor throws. he tended to get the ball up early in games last year.</p>


But when you look at Dez's video, you see some absolutely horrible decisions. Real high school stuff.</p>


[/quote]

again either way i'd imagine that some of those balls are just completely unable to be determined WHOSE fault it is - both ways

I'll break it down when I ge thome
[/quote]</p>


The Eli Cultists seem to be able to determine it very easily.......Its always someone else's fault.</p>[/quote]

more like realists

we understand that QBs INTs go up in Gilbrides system

and anybody whose played football knows tha tballs don't alwyas come perfect to you, but if you get two hands on, even if u have to move ur arms up down to the right or left, its on YOU to get the job done

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="bigblue4417"]I don't think you are giving enough credit to Eli MH. We are all taught from a young age that if the ball hits your hands you should catch it...
[/quote]</p>


I'll ask you to look at the list that Dezz posted. All those picks that he actually holds Eli responsible for. Almost all can in games we lost. They cost us the TN game, the second Dallas game and the first Philly game.</p>


Eli's turnovers, blamed on Eli by an Eli apologist, clearly cost us three games last year.</p>


[/quote]
As far as Eli goes, I am much more with you than I am with them. But I do think you need to cut him a little slack. Let's not even talk about sliding down and holding onto the ****ing ball. lol
[/quote]</p>


Just drives me nuts the blinders some guys have with Eli. I'm not saying he's bad QB. I think he's well above average and quite honestly has made the most of his ability. (He's not exactly the most athletic guy). But this "gunslinger" nonsense and blaming everyone under the sun for his poor decisions or poor passes drives me nuts.</p>


He still panics in the pocket and rushes throws, often into coverage. Thats not what a "gunslinger' does. "Gunslinger" take hits in order to wait for a guy to break open.</p>[/quote]
I totally agree. I always have a sinking feeling when Eli starts running around or is getting pressured. It's almost like most of the time you expect him to throw a pick vs make a nice pass. I have confidence in him but you just never know sometimes.....I expect him to be much better this year however.
[/quote]

how many QBs do you NOT get that feelings for when they are forced out of the pocket or under pressure?

Isn't that exactly WHY we go so DE heavy? TO put that pressure on people? lol

[Morehead State]

This is what Morehead is up against.</P>


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[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="bigblue4417"]I don't think you are giving enough credit to Eli MH. We are all taught from a young age that if the ball hits your hands you should catch it...
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I'll ask you to look at the list that Dezz posted. All those picks that he actually holds Eli responsible for. Almost all can in games we lost. They cost us the TN game, the second Dallas game and the first Philly game.</p>


Eli's turnovers, blamed on Eli by an Eli apologist, clearly cost us three games last year.</p>


[/quote]
As far as Eli goes, I am much more with you than I am with them. But I do think you need to cut him a little slack. Let's not even talk about sliding down and holding onto the ****ing ball. lol
[/quote]</p>


Just drives me nuts the blinders some guys have with Eli. I'm not saying he's bad QB. I think he's well above average and quite honestly has made the most of his ability. (He's not exactly the most athletic guy). But this "gunslinger" nonsense and blaming everyone under the sun for his poor decisions or poor passes drives me nuts.</p>


He still panics in the pocket and rushes throws, often into coverage. Thats not what a "gunslinger' does. "Gunslinger" take hits in order to wait for a guy to break open.</p>


[/quote]

u try to pretend that balls the bounce of WRs hands are bad decisions, when in reality they are just bad plays by the WRs for not making the grabs


annnnddd here we go againnnn

Pappy makes his own definition of what a word means and expects us all to follow
[/quote]</p>


Those were mostly poor throws. he tended to get the ball up early in games last year.</p>


But when you look at Dez's video, you see some absolutely horrible decisions. Real high school stuff.</p>


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again either way i'd imagine that some of those balls are just completely unable to be determined WHOSE fault it is - both ways

I'll break it down when I ge thome
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The Eli Cultists seem to be able to determine it very easily.......Its always someone else's fault.</p>[/quote]

more like realists

we understand that QBs INTs go up in Gilbrides system

and anybody whose played football knows tha tballs don't alwyas come perfect to you, but if you get two hands on, even if u have to move ur arms up down to the right or left, its on YOU to get the job done

[MattMeyerBud]

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<div id="_ctl0__ctl1_bcr__ctl0___PostRepeater__ctl1_Pos tViewWrapper" class="ForumPostContentText"><font size="5">Peyton&gt;ELi&gt;Brady&gt;Rodgers&gt;all else </font></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></p>[/quote]

stop taking the extremists

why bother with them

[Morehead State]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"]


[quote user="bigblue4417"]I don't think you are giving enough credit to Eli MH. We are all taught from a young age that if the ball hits your hands you should catch it...
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I'll ask you to look at the list that Dezz posted. All those picks that he actually holds Eli responsible for. Almost all can in games we lost. They cost us the TN game, the second Dallas game and the first Philly game.</P>


Eli's turnovers, blamed on Eli by an Eli apologist, clearly cost us three games last year.</P>


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As far as Eli goes, I am much more with you than I am with them. But I do think you need to cut him a little slack. Let's not even talk about sliding down and holding onto the ****ing ball. lol
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Just drives me nuts the blinders some guys have with Eli. I'm not saying he's bad QB. I think he's well above average and quite honestly has made the most of his ability. (He's not exactly the most athletic guy). But this "gunslinger" nonsense and blaming everyone under the sun for his poor decisions or poor passes drives me nuts.</P>


He still panics in the pocket and rushes throws, often into coverage. Thats not what a "gunslinger' does. "Gunslinger" take hits in order to wait for a guy to break open.</P>


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u try to pretend that balls the bounce of WRs hands are bad decisions, when in reality they are just bad plays by the WRs for not making the grabs


annnnddd here we go againnnn

Pappy makes his own definition of what a word means and expects us all to follow
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Those were mostly poor throws. he tended to get the ball up early in games last year.</P>


But when you look at Dez's video, you see some absolutely horrible decisions. Real high school stuff.</P>


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again either way i'd imagine that some of those balls are just completely unable to be determined WHOSE fault it is - both ways

I'll break it down when I ge thome
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The Eli Cultists seem to be able to determine it very easily.......Its always someone else's fault.</P>


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more like realists

we understand that QBs INTs go up in Gilbrides system

and anybody whose played football knows tha tballs don't alwyas come perfect to you, but if you get two hands on, even if u have to move ur arms up down to the right or left, its on YOU to get the job done
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He panics in the pocket and throws into coverage in the face of a pass rush.</P>


It doesn't matter what system he's in. This is your "gunlinger".</P>