[quote user="Morehead State"]
[quote user="lawl"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="lawl"]
Where did I ever say "in stride"?
I've never said a WR shouldn't catch the ball. I HAVE said that if the ball does get to the WR it can still be qualified as a bad throw. You disagreed, Bill Walsh, however agreed with me. Walsh being mad at the WR and Joe is the equivalent of my opinion. Whereas you think it is all just on the WR.
Another tidbit I'll add-(see the bold)
Are you of the opinion that on the plays where Boss caught the ball and got demolished that it was a bad pass? Because you're definitely inferring that.
It obviously can be abad throw - it doesn't matter though. When the ball comes to the WR he has to make the grab. Its like Receiving 101.
Bill Walsh mentioned NOTHING about anything we're talking about. Your qouting Montana on a phantom play where you have NO clue if there were even defenders on the field or if they were in a 7 on 7 drill. A generic bland statement prove snothing for your cause.
They may not be GREAT passes but if they get to the WR at a place where only he can catch its good enough.
Sometimes **** happens, sometimes you got to get the ball to a guy you see open. Honestly I can't really remember which play ur speaking of specifically. I know Boss go thung out a couple of times..
Theres one constant when it comes to receiving the ball: If it hits your hands - you have to make the play.
I'll even say there are a few situations where that could be argued, unfortunately alot of the balls that moorehead is referring to on Eli - isn't.
I don't know why you keep bringing up the WRs part of the ordeal. I'm well aware that they made a bad play on the ball. They touched it and dropped it. Unacceptable.
But, on these plays Eli clearly could have put the ball in a better spot, he knows it, I know it, you know it. Secondly, these throws surely do not end up where Eli wants them to be. With this known, how could you possibly qualify any of this throws as good?
I don't know why you aren't picking up what I'm saying about Walsh and why its relevant, but ill go further.
Walsh got mad at Joe Montana when the ball made it to the WR in a place that was catchable, but made him slow his route or such. Meaning the ball got there, and it was STILL a bad throw. You can apply this logic to 90% of Eli's tip ints. The balls are in a spot where even if the WR catches it, he isn't going anywhere but to the ground, but it is quite clear if a good throw is made alot of space is there for extra yards to be gained. This is why it is not a good throw by NFL standards.
Lawl. I've been having this exact argument with Matt for months. His view is that the QB's only responsibility is to throw the ball in the vicinity of the WR and the rest is on the WR. If he doesn't catch it, its not Eli's fault.</p>
What he doesn't understand is that most Division 3 college QB's can do that.</p>
You will never convince him because he is blinded by his agenda that Eli is never to blame. If he was convinced otherwise, his little world will come crashing down on him and I really don't want to see that happen.</p>
Best for his to live in his fantasy world.</p>[/quote]
define vicinity.. .hitting them in both hands is more than just in the vicinity
Moorehead, the only agenda going on here is the cum shots u take in the mouth over nicks and mario. God forbid they don't do something right or perfect, everybody else is hater. You totally dismis the fact that they can do any wrong. Its sad actually. Its to the point where balls bounce off their hands and ur blaming the QB