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    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="ny06"]


    Morehead. </p>


    Come in and have a discussion.</p>


    http://boards.giants.com/forums/thread/2252262.aspx</p>


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    I'll stay away from your hate fest.</p>


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    you love hating on Eli though.
    [/quote]he can dish it out but cant take it
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    <u>What is it you would like me to say?</u> My team is playing at its lowest level in decades.</p>


    We have 2 major league quality starters. Or BP is over exyended as a product. We are hitting when we're up by 8 runs but can't get a base hit when we're close.</p>


    Its a dark time for Sox fans. This team reminds me of the Giants at the end of 09. I'm not sure if there is a team we can beat. And quite honestly, I'm not sure that my football team is in much of a better place.</p>


    But you may have noticed that when the Yanks got beat by Texas last season, I didn't make a single post about it.<u> I like to talk smack, but I never kick a guy when he's down. I can't go out and play for them. But thats just me.</u></p>


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    [/quote]it doesnt matter cause you wont answer anyway. lol i asked you yesterday, are you rooting for the yankees

    stop with the dramatics, were breaking balls.
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    I'm rooting for whatever helps my team. So why on earth would I not root for whoever is playing the Rays? Just as you would root for the Sox if the situation was reversed.</p>


    Its a dumb question. And I try to stay clear of those.</p>[/quote]MHS ROOTING FOR THE YANKEESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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    The downfall of our team will not come from injuries, it won't come from the QB, it won't come from special teams.</P>


    It will come from a bad and old thinking coaching staff.</P>


    Mr. Mara should have pulled the trigger after the 09 season with our team laying down and the HC defending them. As Matt and I said at the time.</P>


    All we are doing is postponing the inevidable. This staff is not the future of the New York Giants.</P>
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    The downfall of our team will not come from injuries, it won't come from the QB, it won't come from special teams.</P>


    It will come from a bad and old thinking coaching staff.</P>


    Mr. Mara should have pulled the trigger after the 09 season with our team laying down and the HC defending them. As Matt and I said at the time.</P>


    All we are doing is postponing the inevidable. This staff is not the future of the New York Giants.</P>


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    I could agree with that pretty easily. We been calling for Gilbride's head since 08 anyway....so yea absolutely. TC, althought a pretty good coach, he's lost this team, he's just TOO old school I think at this point.
    This team, (while healthy specifically) has the talent to be a Superbowl contender every year....so I don't think our problem is player talent right now either.</P>
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    [quote user="Morehead State"]

    The downfall of our team will not come from injuries, it won't come from the QB, it won't come from special teams.</p>


    It will come from a bad and old thinking coaching staff.</p>


    Mr. Mara should have pulled the trigger after the 09 season with our team laying down and the HC defending them. As Matt and I said at the time.</p>


    All we are doing is postponing the inevidable. This staff is not the future of the New York Giants.</p>[/quote]are you calling out tc? or tc gillbride and fewell?

    i like tc, i like his style, i like the discipline, but iv said before he is loyal to a fault. maybe it is time to bring in new blood, but i wouldnt be opposed to keeping tc and getting rid of gilbride and fewell.
    regardless, right now we look flat, offense and defense. things arent clicking. but i blame reese for the defense, 100%. reese hasnt made many mistakes but he **** the bed on this one. how can you promote and bring in guys like sheridan and fewell when spags schemes worked so well? and especially after 09?
    gilbrides hot and cold. has been since hes been here and his stubbornness kills us at times.

    maybe it is time to clean house.

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    [quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    The downfall of our team will not come from injuries, it won't come from the QB, it won't come from special teams.</P>


    It will come from a bad and old thinking coaching staff.</P>


    Mr. Mara should have pulled the trigger after the 09 season with our team laying down and the HC defending them. As Matt and I said at the time.</P>


    All we are doing is postponing the inevidable. This staff is not the future of the New York Giants.</P>


    [/quote]are you calling out tc? or tc gillbride and fewell?

    i like tc, i like his style, i like the discipline, but iv said before he is loyal to a fault. maybe it is time to bring in new blood, but i wouldnt be opposed to keeping tc and getting rid of gilbride and fewell.
    regardless, right now we look flat, offense and defense. things arent clicking. but i blame reese for the defense, 100%. reese hasnt made many mistakes but he **** the bed on this one. how can you promote and bring in guys like sheridan and fewell when spags schemes worked so well? and especially after 09?
    gilbrides hot and cold. has been since hes been here and his stubbornness kills us at times.

    maybe it is time to clean house.
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    Dezzz, I see your point to a certain extent, but....it's no coincidence that we've replaced Spags twice already and have noticed no great improvement, and have collapsed every year. Sure Fewell MIGHT not be working out, but instead of constantly replcing a DC, we just need to wipe the slate clean.</P>
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    The downfall of our team will not come from injuries, it won't come from the QB, it won't come from special teams.</P>


    It will come from a bad and old thinking coaching staff.</P>


    Mr. Mara should have pulled the trigger after the 09 season with our team laying down and the HC defending them. As Matt and I said at the time.</P>


    All we are doing is postponing the inevidable. This staff is not the future of the New York Giants.</P>


    [/quote]are you calling out tc? or tc gillbride and fewell?

    i like tc, i like his style, i like the discipline, but iv said before he is loyal to a fault. maybe it is time to bring in new blood, but i wouldnt be opposed to keeping tc and getting rid of gilbride and fewell.
    regardless, right now we look flat, offense and defense. things arent clicking. but i blame reese for the defense, 100%. reese hasnt made many mistakes but he **** the bed on this one. how can you promote and bring in guys like sheridan and fewell when spags schemes worked so well? and especially after 09?
    gilbrides hot and cold. has been since hes been here and his stubbornness kills us at times.

    maybe it is time to clean house.
    [/quote]</P>


    I'm calling out every coach on the team but specifically the HC since he is responsible for his staff. The league has passed us by. They innovate..we don't.</P>


    And don't give me that discipline nonsense. Yes, he's very good at developing his rep as a "disciplinarian". But our team has always played very undisciplined football. Bad tackling, missed assignments in the secondary, D Ends (Osi) that fail to honor their lanes, QB's who throw left handed in the endzone into triple coverage etc......</P>


    Results count. The Head Coach of a team that is constantly making mental mistakes can't be an effective disciplinarian by definition.</P>
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    The downfall of our team will not come from injuries, it won't come from the QB, it won't come from special teams.</P>


    It will come from a bad and old thinking coaching staff.</P>


    Mr. Mara should have pulled the trigger after the 09 season with our team laying down and the HC defending them. As Matt and I said at the time.</P>


    All we are doing is postponing the inevidable. This staff is not the future of the New York Giants.</P>


    [/quote]are you calling out tc? or tc gillbride and fewell?

    i like tc, i like his style, i like the discipline, but iv said before he is loyal to a fault. maybe it is time to bring in new blood, but i wouldnt be opposed to keeping tc and getting rid of gilbride and fewell.
    regardless, right now we look flat, offense and defense. things arent clicking. but i blame reese for the defense, 100%. reese hasnt made many mistakes but he **** the bed on this one. how can you promote and bring in guys like sheridan and fewell when spags schemes worked so well? and especially after 09?
    gilbrides hot and cold. has been since hes been here and his stubbornness kills us at times.

    maybe it is time to clean house.
    [/quote]</P>


    Dezzz, I see your point to a certain extent, but....it's no coincidence that we've replaced Spags twice already and have noticed no great improvement, and have collapsed every year. Sure Fewell MIGHT not be working out, but instead of constantly replcing a DC, we just need to wipe the slate clean.</P>


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    Not only that Pizz, but don't forget he didn't want to fire Tim Lewis and he had to be threatened with his job to fire Sheridan. He's loyal to a fault. He's loyal to the detriment of our team.</P>
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    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    The downfall of our team will not come from injuries, it won't come from the QB, it won't come from special teams.</P>


    It will come from a bad and old thinking coaching staff.</P>


    Mr. Mara should have pulled the trigger after the 09 season with our team laying down and the HC defending them. As Matt and I said at the time.</P>


    All we are doing is postponing the inevidable. This staff is not the future of the New York Giants.</P>


    [/quote]are you calling out tc? or tc gillbride and fewell?

    i like tc, i like his style, i like the discipline, but iv said before he is loyal to a fault. maybe it is time to bring in new blood, but i wouldnt be opposed to keeping tc and getting rid of gilbride and fewell.
    regardless, right now we look flat, offense and defense. things arent clicking. but i blame reese for the defense, 100%. reese hasnt made many mistakes but he **** the bed on this one. how can you promote and bring in guys like sheridan and fewell when spags schemes worked so well? and especially after 09?
    gilbrides hot and cold. has been since hes been here and his stubbornness kills us at times.

    maybe it is time to clean house.
    [/quote]</P>


    Dezzz, I see your point to a certain extent, but....it's no coincidence that we've replaced Spags twice already and have noticed no great improvement, and have collapsed every year. Sure Fewell MIGHT not be working out, but instead of constantly replcing a DC, we just need to wipe the slate clean.</P>


    [/quote]</P>


    Not only that Pizz, but don't forget he didn't want to fire Tim Lewis and he had to be threatened with his job to fire Sheridan. He's loyal to a fault. He's loyal to the detriment of our team.</P>


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    no absolutely! But dezzz made that point, i didnt need to add to it really lol</P>
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    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    The downfall of our team will not come from injuries, it won't come from the QB, it won't come from special teams.</p>


    It will come from a bad and old thinking coaching staff.</p>


    Mr. Mara should have pulled the trigger after the 09 season with our team laying down and the HC defending them. As Matt and I said at the time.</p>


    All we are doing is postponing the inevidable. This staff is not the future of the New York Giants.</p>


    [/quote]are you calling out tc? or tc gillbride and fewell?

    i like tc, i like his style, i like the discipline, but iv said before he is loyal to a fault. maybe it is time to bring in new blood, but i wouldnt be opposed to keeping tc and getting rid of gilbride and fewell.
    regardless, right now we look flat, offense and defense. things arent clicking. but i blame reese for the defense, 100%. reese hasnt made many mistakes but he **** the bed on this one. how can you promote and bring in guys like sheridan and fewell when spags schemes worked so well? and especially after 09?
    gilbrides hot and cold. has been since hes been here and his stubbornness kills us at times.

    maybe it is time to clean house.
    [/quote]</p>


    I'm calling out every coach on the team but specifically the HC since he is responsible for his staff. The league has passed us by. They innovate..we don't.</p>


    And don't give me that discipline nonsense. Yes, he's very good at developing his rep as a "disciplinarian". But our team has <u>always played very undisciplined football.</u> Bad tackling, missed assignments in the secondary, D Ends (Osi) that fail to honor their lanes, QB's who throw left handed in the endzone into triple coverage etc......</p>


    Results count. The Head Coach of a team that is constantly making mental mistakes can't be an effective disciplinarian by definition.</p>[/quote]i dont agree with that at all, and i dont think you really do either. giants looked pretty disciplined in 05, 07, and 08.
    lately, yes absolutely no discipline, but the current schemes also arent working. toms not calling the plays, but the buck stop with him.

    i also dont think the league passed us by but we REALLY do need to innovate more on offense.


    whats your take on the stokely signing? gilbride made a big stink that he thought we already had enough talent and wanted to utilize what we have. thats showing SOME innovated thinking but the front office thought otherwise, thus supporting your anti innovation theory.

    if we we dont make the playoffs again, as much as i like and respect tc, im all for cleaning house

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    if we we dont make the playoffs again, as much as i like and respect tc, im all for cleaning house
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    We said that last season......</P>
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