THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Morehead State"]

1. A true sports dynasty has to be over many years. (at least 10)</p>


2. If you win a championship, your stay the champs until another champ is crowned.</p>


3. The standard for a baseball MVP is generally to be on a contending team.</p>


4. The Yankees are still the scum of the planet.</p>[/quote]

boston isn't contending. Infact they finished 3rd in their division

#heartbreakhotel

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]

[quote user="bigblue4417"]and you may think I took him but don't discredit Sharick. He won the B league last year and has been playing FF forever. He knows his **** so it's not like he didn't think about it. He would not have just given Vick away ( ala Daven ). Still can't believe he let go of Cutler after how much he talked him up.
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listen to these moves me and blondie are making that $300 league

FIRST we picked up Cam Newton 4 Rex Grossman

THEN we traded Cam Newton &amp; Maclin 4 Matt Schaub &amp; Andre Johnson

THEN we traded Andre Johnson 4 Hakeem Nicks

NOW it looks like we have a deal done sending Eli &amp; Hightower 4 SJax

AND we're waiting to hear back from our Matt Schaub &amp; Fred Jackson 4 Drew Breez offer

if they all go off our team will look like:

QB: Breez &amp; Romo
RB: McCoy &amp; Rice, SJax, Tolbert
WR: Nicks, Wallace, STevie Johnson, Julio Jones
TE: Jason Witten

LMAOOOOO
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

The Cam newton trade was ridiculous. I think you should have kept Andre but Nicks is ballin. Redskins backfield is getting crazy. I thought you would try and get Torain in our league. S Jax has got to get going soon.
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na hightower is going to be the man there with the best stats... the other two are just going to chip at him. And honestly Shanahan lost that game vs the boys by not running him the last two series. The only time they moved the ball for real was when he was in the game

[DavenIII]

[quote user="bandwgn86"]]this has been a wonderfully long troll job by MH, he's so good he's even got Daven to argue against him.. hats off to MH.[/quote]

if it is a troll I have to give him Credit...a 2-3 year long troll takes some SERIOUS dedication lol.

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


Ha Ha, your ranting!</p>


Eli after 4 games: 8 TD's, 2 Int's. 3-1</p>


Eli after 4 games last year: 5 TD's, 6 Int's. 2-2</p>


But Morehead, it was the recievers! It was KG! It was the O line! It was the bushey haired man! </p>


No Matt. Its better play at QB this season.[/quote]</p>



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No Morehead, your hate is blinding you, you've even said it yourself, Eli has been our QB for 8 Years now, he's not the one improving anymore (maybe a tiny bit but not anything noticeable)</p>



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Eli is a GOOD QB...has been for years...the interceptions are going down because his RECEIVERS who are young and still have a lot of improving to do...ARE improving.</p>



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it's the simplest and therefore the most likely solution...your HATE just blinds you to the truth.</p>



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Morehead I beg of you...step out of your darkness step into the light...Eli Manning IS a good Quarterback...and he's the leader of our NY Football Giants
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Explain the WR thing to me because after 4 games in 09 he had MM, SS and Nicks and played great. <u>In '10 he had the same 3 WR's in the first 4 weeks (all obviously with one more yearof experience) and was horrible.</u> This season <u>he has two of them but we substitute a vet (Steve Smith) for a guy who had never caught a pass in the NFL (Victor Cruz) and is playing well again.</u></p>


<u></u></p>


<u>In other words....the objective facts don't support your opinion. (Of course they rarely do)</u></p>


Eli is simply playing better. Deal with it people. Even when I compliment the guy you all argue with me.</p>


[/quote]no. steve smith, elis favorite target went down at the beginning if 2010.

and tell me if eli has reached his peek and "wont get any better, he is what he is" how can he be playing "well again". youre so contradicting
[/quote]</p>


He already showed he can play this well in 08 and early 09. Until Matt hexed him. Eli is definately what he is. Inconsistent. His career shows it.</p>


I'm hoping that he can usher in an era of more consistent play this season with this good start. But he has had good starts before and faltered.</p>[/quote]


sooo your argument is that Eli has been inconsistant when he turned the corner in the 07 playoffs. But then you say he played legit every year except last year pretty much. This just so happens to be the same year we have a complete overhaul of receivers in our complex system and alot of change.

Dare I say, hes actually pretty consistant with his play and that last year was really th eonly year he statistically doesn't

Do u call Tom Brady inconsistant because he had the 4 INT game last week? Or is just fact that these ELITE QBs don't really have dominating weeks EVERY week.

[dezzzR]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


Ha Ha, your ranting!</p>


Eli after 4 games: 8 TD's, 2 Int's. 3-1</p>


Eli after 4 games last year: 5 TD's, 6 Int's. 2-2</p>


But Morehead, it was the recievers! It was KG! It was the O line! It was the bushey haired man! </p>


No Matt. Its better play at QB this season.[/quote]</p>



</p>


No Morehead, your hate is blinding you, you've even said it yourself, Eli has been our QB for 8 Years now, he's not the one improving anymore (maybe a tiny bit but not anything noticeable)</p>



</p>


Eli is a GOOD QB...has been for years...the interceptions are going down because his RECEIVERS who are young and still have a lot of improving to do...ARE improving.</p>



</p>


it's the simplest and therefore the most likely solution...your HATE just blinds you to the truth.</p>



</p>


Morehead I beg of you...step out of your darkness step into the light...Eli Manning IS a good Quarterback...and he's the leader of our NY Football Giants
</p>


[/quote]</p>


Explain the WR thing to me because after 4 games in 09 he had MM, SS and Nicks and played great. <u>In '10 he had the same 3 WR's in the first 4 weeks (all obviously with one more yearof experience) and was horrible.</u> This season <u>he has two of them but we substitute a vet (Steve Smith) for a guy who had never caught a pass in the NFL (Victor Cruz) and is playing well again.</u></p>


<u></u></p>


<u>In other words....the objective facts don't support your opinion. (Of course they rarely do)</u></p>


Eli is simply playing better. Deal with it people. Even when I compliment the guy you all argue with me.</p>


[/quote]no. steve smith, elis favorite target went down at the beginning if 2010.

and tell me if eli has reached his peek and "wont get any better, he is what he is" how can he be playing "well again". youre so contradicting
[/quote]</p>


WRONG!!!!</p>


He played fully the first 7 games.</p>


<u>After 4 games last year he had 22 catches for 211 yards.</u></p>


Next question!</p>


[/quote]and what was nicks doing? oh yea balling his *** off. just because smith didnt have 50 catches after 4 games doesnt mean he wasnt elis favorite target. you can bet that healthy colon it hurt our offense when he went down.

and no question was asked. lol you ignore me when i ask questions and then say you answered them when i dont ask one. hahaha youre worse than a gf.
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<u>You realize that you are making my point for me. (not as well as me...but still)</u></p>


<u>You are saying that Nicks was playing great and Smith was still solid. Thats exactly my point. Despite that, Eli's production was lousy after 4 games with 5 TD's and 6 picks.</u></p>


This season his production is outstanding, making my point that he is playing much better than last season.</p>


Welcome to Morehead's side. (I like it better when you are on the other side)</p>[/quote]smith was also being double teamed. of course you see it that way because youre insane.
how is throwing 3 tds to nicks the first game "lousy"? please tell me

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


He already showed he can play this well in 08 and early 09. Until Matt hexed him. Eli is definately what he is. Inconsistent. His career shows it.</p>


I'm hoping that he can usher in an era of more consistent play this season with this good start. But he has had good starts before and faltered.</p>


[/quote]

KG is inconsistent, whenever Eli is calling the plays we do very well.

I think it's also true that KG confuses our own receivers...many many times we've seen Eli throw the ball to a spot where the receiver is supposed to be but the receiver ran a crossing route instead of a go route etc etc.

I'll give you one thing Morehead...perhaps Eli is learning to deal with the receivers mistakes better...

but Eli himself is not throwing the ball more accurately, as you seem to be implying, Eli is consistent...the team around him (especially the OC) are not, THAT is what I see.

[/quote]</p>


I never said he was less accurate last year. I said he made more stupid decisions. This year he has thrown the ball away more, he has taken more sacks and most importantly, he has dumped the ball off better.</p>


If you haven't seen that this year I don't know what you are watching.</p>


He seems to have been able to resist the urge to chuck it into coverage in the face of a pass rush this year.</p>


Which by the way is EXACTLY what TC said publicly that he needs to do in Indy this past February.</p>[/quote]

no but specifically those balls against Philly really weren't great passes.. the receivers just did their jobs. Eli did his job by getting it to them and making it catchable but he throws in double coverage alot

[DavenIII]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]Do u call Tom Brady inconsistant because he had the 4 INT game last week? [/quote]

Solid point, how about it Morehead, is Brady inconsistent now, I'm just trying to get the "morehead" definition of inconsistency.

I mean it's clear you already have your own special definitions for Champions and Dynasty's apparently you have some special version of inconsistency as well...so lets hear it.

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="bandwgn86"]is it just me or have the mods been really angry lately.. minus Mod M he's always been prickly[/quote]


lol why what happened

i have been avoiding TAGF

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="bandwgn86"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


Ha Ha, your ranting!</p>


Eli after 4 games: 8 TD's, 2 Int's. 3-1</p>


Eli after 4 games last year: 5 TD's, 6 Int's. 2-2</p>


But Morehead, it was the recievers! It was KG! It was the O line! It was the bushey haired man! </p>


No Matt. Its better play at QB this season.[/quote]</p>



</p>


No Morehead, your hate is blinding you, you've even said it yourself, Eli has been our QB for 8 Years now, he's not the one improving anymore (maybe a tiny bit but not anything noticeable)</p>



</p>


Eli is a GOOD QB...has been for years...the interceptions are going down because his RECEIVERS who are young and still have a lot of improving to do...ARE improving.</p>



</p>


it's the simplest and therefore the most likely solution...your HATE just blinds you to the truth.</p>



</p>


Morehead I beg of you...step out of your darkness step into the light...Eli Manning IS a good Quarterback...and he's the leader of our NY Football Giants
</p>


[/quote]</p>


Explain the WR thing to me because after 4 games in 09 he had MM, SS and Nicks and played great. <u>In '10 he had the same 3 WR's in the first 4 weeks (all obviously with one more yearof experience) and was horrible.</u> This season <u>he has two of them but we substitute a vet (Steve Smith) for a guy who had never caught a pass in the NFL (Victor Cruz) and is playing well again.</u></p>


<u></u></p>


<u>In other words....the objective facts don't support your opinion. (Of course they rarely do)</u></p>


Eli is simply playing better. Deal with it people. Even when I compliment the guy you all argue with me.</p>


[/quote]no. steve smith, elis favorite target went down at the beginning if 2010.

and tell me if eli has reached his peek and "wont get any better, he is what he is" how can he be playing "well again". youre so contradicting
[/quote]</p>


WRONG!!!!</p>


He played fully the first 7 games.</p>


<u>After 4 games last year he had 22 catches for 211 yards.</u></p>


Next question!</p>[/quote]and what was nicks doing? oh yea balling his *** off. just because smith didnt have 50 catches after 4 games doesnt mean he wasnt elis favorite target. you can bet that healthy colon it hurt our offense when he went down.

and no question was asked. lol you ignore me when i ask questions and then say you answered them when i dont ask one. hahaha youre worse than a gf.
[/quote]this has been a wonderfully long troll job by MH, he's so good he's even got Daven to argue against him.. hats off to MH.[/quote]

ahhh

only if he was trolling

sad part is hes serious

[dezzzR]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


He already showed he can play this well in 08 and early 09. Until Matt hexed him. Eli is definately what he is. Inconsistent. His career shows it.</p>


I'm hoping that he can usher in an era of more consistent play this season with this good start. But he has had good starts before and faltered.</p>


[/quote]

KG is inconsistent, whenever Eli is calling the plays we do very well.

I think it's also true that KG confuses our own receivers...many many times we've seen Eli throw the ball to a spot where the receiver is supposed to be but the receiver ran a crossing route instead of a go route etc etc.

I'll give you one thing Morehead...perhaps Eli is learning to deal with the receivers mistakes better...

but Eli himself is not throwing the ball more accurately, as you seem to be implying, Eli is consistent...the team around him (especially the OC) are not, THAT is what I see.

[/quote]</p>


I never said he was less accurate last year. I said he made more stupid decisions. This year he has thrown the ball away more, he has taken more sacks and most importantly, he has dumped the ball off better.</p>


If you haven't seen that this year I don't know what you are watching.</p>


He seems to have been able to resist the urge to chuck it into coverage in the face of a pass rush this year.</p>


Which by the way is EXACTLY what TC said publicly that he needs to do in Indy this past February.</p>[/quote]

no but specifically those balls against Philly really weren't great passes.. the receivers just did their jobs. Eli did his job by getting it to them and making it catchable but he throws in double coverage alot
[/quote]whyy.......whaats this?!?!?!