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    [quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]Miles Austin Hamstrings = FAIL
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    yea really - it was his other one too
    [/quote]but god dam Dallas is 4/4 and we have not played them once yet. I hate that team.
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    yea but so far they've lost every game you've thought they'd lose and they won every game you'd think they'd win

    They area decent team but aren't anything to worry about IMO. I am more worried about Philly. Plenty of football left and I think they are ona hot streak. I think they embarress the Bears tonight
    [/quote]Yes-Eagles are rolling in right dir. now. I'm happy we have 1 win against them already. A playoff matchup with our clutch QB will be fine with me.
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    The Bears will win tonight. And Vick might not survive the game.</p>[/quote]

    honestly the bears carpable of getting hits on Vick and thats the onyl way. If they odn't know him out they are going to get skunked

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    [quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"]It was scary because it was "The old Eli". We thought we had seen the last of him. He showing his ugly self on that play. I'm sure Eli understood that and went back to the "new and improved Eli" that we have seen for most of this season.[/quote]
    How about this...Had the O-Line given him 1 more second it would not have been a chuck and duck instead being a perfectly thrown ball to the back corner of the end zone for a TD to Manningham.

    The 3 points would have been huge right there, but I can't fault Eli for trying to make the play.
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    he paniced Landon. Thats all it was. It was a rookie play. Did you read TC's lips when it happened?..."Don't do that!"</P>


    But I do not want to dwell since it is definately the exception this season and not the rule. Last season it was the rule.</P>
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    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i would just like to point out too that the ball to Ballard on the 3rd and long was a GREAT catch by Ballard - but thats the type of throws that Eli gets NO CREDIT for.

    That pass was just as impressive and beautiful as the catch. Just from past discussions thats the exact type of ball that I am talking about when I say nobody gives Eli the credit fora placement like that.
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    It was a Morehead for sure.
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    lol here i'll do moorehead response to this:

    I want my QB to make plays and be a playmaker and sometimes its okay to throw into double coverage - like the ballard play


    [/quote]</p>


    It was a great pass and a great catch. Had to be made given the game situation.</p>


    Eli made a lot of nice throws yesterday. But he also made a bonehead play in the endzone that could have easily cost us the game. he did EXACTLY what I can't stand. Chucked it up for grabs in the face of a pass rush. It was a definate "chuck and duck" and you all know it.</p>


    But he did a great job in the 4th quarter and that was a glorious victory for our team. </p>


    On to SF where we WILL beat them.</p>


    [/quote]That WAS a scary pass from Eli. That being said, no qb is perfect--overall he managed the game very well.

    To think you could of been at that game last night MH
    [/quote]</p>


    It was scary because it was "The old Eli". We thought we had seen the last of him. He showing his ugly self on that play. I'm sure Eli understood that and went back to the "new and improved Eli" that we have seen for most of this season.</p>


    And someone please tell me what the hell Danny Ware (refuse to call him DJ) was in the game so much for. He is useless.</p>[/quote]

    lol if that play was completed in the endzone, you would still be wiping your mouth from all the little eli's that would of been running down your chin

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    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="byron"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i would just like to point out too that the ball to Ballard on the 3rd and long was a GREAT catch by Ballard - but thats the type of throws that Eli gets NO CREDIT for.

    That pass was just as impressive and beautiful as the catch. Just from past discussions thats the exact type of ball that I am talking about when I say nobody gives Eli the credit fora placement like that.
    [/quote]
    It was a Morehead for sure.
    [/quote]

    lol here i'll do moorehead response to this:

    I want my QB to make plays and be a playmaker and sometimes its okay to throw into double coverage - like the ballard play


    [/quote]</p>


    It was a great pass and a great catch. Had to be made given the game situation.</p>


    Eli made a lot of nice throws yesterday. But he also made a bonehead play in the endzone that could have easily cost us the game. he did EXACTLY what I can't stand. Chucked it up for grabs in the face of a pass rush. It was a definate "chuck and duck" and you all know it.</p>


    But he did a great job in the 4th quarter and that was a glorious victory for our team. </p>


    On to SF where we WILL beat them.</p>


    [/quote]so you think it was premeditated chuck and duck by Eli... lock him up on the grounds he was trying to make a play on the football field ...he almost 2 sec's ****ing Eli!! [/quote]</p>


    Not at all. It was a paniced throw. That is the Eli we saw far too often last year. And only a few times this season.</p>


    We also didn't see the 2 minute Eli last season that we saw yesterday.</p>


    You guys never get my argument about Eli. Every complaint I had in the off season about Eli was exclusively about his play last season. It was never about his overall ability or his upside.</p>


    Generally, he seems to have shaken many of those horrific habits. (with the exception of the horrible play last night). And that is a very good thing.</p>


    Redemption is a life affirming human experience.</p>[/quote]

    He HAD to rush it and the play was there. If he had a half second more he could of got that ball there. This is where your whole "SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE CHANCE" argument goes to ****.

    YEs we do understand what your arguments were. But the thing is those knocks you have on Eli from last season he still does this year. EVERYBODY has said it to you from daven, to me, to lando (you couldn't get 3 more extremes in Thee thread then that). The difference is the results - but when we're talking about Eli as the QB and doing things and making decisions - the results are moot.

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    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="byron"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i would just like to point out too that the ball to Ballard on the 3rd and long was a GREAT catch by Ballard - but thats the type of throws that Eli gets NO CREDIT for.

    That pass was just as impressive and beautiful as the catch. Just from past discussions thats the exact type of ball that I am talking about when I say nobody gives Eli the credit fora placement like that.
    [/quote]
    It was a Morehead for sure.
    [/quote]

    lol here i'll do moorehead response to this:

    I want my QB to make plays and be a playmaker and sometimes its okay to throw into double coverage - like the ballard play


    [/quote]</p>


    It was a great pass and a great catch. Had to be made given the game situation.</p>


    Eli made a lot of nice throws yesterday. But he also made a bonehead play in the endzone that could have easily cost us the game. he did EXACTLY what I can't stand. Chucked it up for grabs in the face of a pass rush. It was a definate "chuck and duck" and you all know it.</p>


    But he did a great job in the 4th quarter and that was a glorious victory for our team. </p>


    On to SF where we WILL beat them.</p>


    [/quote]so you think it was premeditated chuck and duck by Eli... lock him up on the grounds he was trying to make a play on the football field ...he almost 2 sec's ****ing Eli!! [/quote]</p>


    Not at all. It was a paniced throw. That is the Eli we saw far too often last year. And only a few times this season.</p>


    We also didn't see the 2 minute Eli last season that we saw yesterday.</p>


    You guys never get my argument about Eli. Every complaint I had in the off season about Eli was exclusively about his play last season. It was never about his overall ability or his upside.</p>


    Generally, he seems to have shaken many of those horrific habits. (with the exception of the horrible play last night). And that is a very good thing.</p>


    Redemption is a life affirming human experience.</p>[/quote]

    He HAD to rush it and the play was there. If he had a half second more he could of got that ball there. This is where your whole "SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE CHANCE" argument goes to ****.

    YEs we do understand what your arguments were. But the thing is those knocks you have on Eli from last season he still does this year. EVERYBODY has said it to you from daven, to me, to lando (you couldn't get 3 more extremes in Thee thread then that). The difference is the results - but when we're talking about Eli as the QB and doing things and making decisions - the results are moot.

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    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="byron"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i would just like to point out too that the ball to Ballard on the 3rd and long was a GREAT catch by Ballard - but thats the type of throws that Eli gets NO CREDIT for.

    That pass was just as impressive and beautiful as the catch. Just from past discussions thats the exact type of ball that I am talking about when I say nobody gives Eli the credit fora placement like that.
    [/quote]
    It was a Morehead for sure.
    [/quote]

    lol here i'll do moorehead response to this:

    I want my QB to make plays and be a playmaker and sometimes its okay to throw into double coverage - like the ballard play


    [/quote]</P>


    It was a great pass and a great catch. Had to be made given the game situation.</P>


    Eli made a lot of nice throws yesterday. But he also made a bonehead play in the endzone that could have easily cost us the game. he did EXACTLY what I can't stand. Chucked it up for grabs in the face of a pass rush. It was a definate "chuck and duck" and you all know it.</P>


    But he did a great job in the 4th quarter and that was a glorious victory for our team. </P>


    On to SF where we WILL beat them.</P>


    [/quote]so you think it was premeditated chuck and duck by Eli... lock him up on the grounds he was trying to make a play on the football field ...he almost 2 sec's ****ing Eli!! [/quote]</P>


    Not at all. It was a paniced throw. That is the Eli we saw far too often last year. And only a few times this season.</P>


    We also didn't see the 2 minute Eli last season that we saw yesterday.</P>


    You guys never get my argument about Eli. Every complaint I had in the off season about Eli was exclusively about his play last season. It was never about his overall ability or his upside.</P>


    Generally, he seems to have shaken many of those horrific habits. (with the exception of the horrible play last night). And that is a very good thing.</P>


    Redemption is a life affirming human experience.</P>[/quote] I wonder just how many throws on any football field by any QBare exicuted withoutsome heightenedsense of urgency/ panic? Ain't like they have hour back their.....but whatever he's getting payed to be cool, calm and collected.....why that just epitomizes whoEli is.....mr Cooool !.........on to the west coast!

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    Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="bigblue4417"]"I have been here seven years with him," Tuck said. "I would dare to say he is playing his best ball in the whole seven years."[/quote]</P>


    Matt disagrees with Tuck.</P>


    Tuck agrees with Morehead.</P>


    [/quote]

    Moorehead is too busy back tracking and changing his arguments that he doesn't even know what Matt's points are...

    I'll take my Elite Eli any day


    [/quote]</P>


    Our argument has been about the fact that I think Eli is much better this season. You say he is the same.</P>


    Tuck agrees with me.</P>


    The End......... of Matt's argument.</P>


    [/quote]

    and again - even in your summary u still don't know my argument:

    Eli has improved every year and this year is no different. He is playing better.

    But you just dramatically under appreciated how well he actually played last year that you seem to think theres some great leap - and theres no. Things you've killed him for last year he still does and they RARELY bit us in the *** this year where oppose to last year they bit us in the *** MORE than they should have.

    So in reality we're all on the same page - Eli is playing better this year
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    My argument is that Eli regressed last season. He fell into some really bad, old habits. This season he has clearly identified this in his game and has worked hard to overcome those impulses.</P>


    He has NEVER moved this well in the pocket to create time. Last year it was a rushed chuck into coverage and a duck out of the way of rushing lineman. This year its subtle moves in the pocket to create more time to let a play develop.</P>


    Isee it and obviously Justin Tuck sees it. And it reflected in his productivity and his confidence.</P>


    You can't see it because you see him through the skewed and twisted prism of your agenda.</P>
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    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="byron"]


    [quote user="bigblue4417"]Miles Austin Hamstrings = Laurent Robinson [/quote] </p>


    </p>


    </p>


    just playing man...to bad for Miles</p>


    [/quote]
    LMAO!

    You should change your team name to Hammy Squad MMB.
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    lol and after Houston jamming the ball with th erun yesterday - ZERO shot Andre is full go this week, i doubt he suits up
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    Looks like MMB got MMB'd.</p>[/quote]
    contrary to popular belief about the andre trade i made - that was really for the playoffs. I took for granted hes not going to play for the first three weeks I have him

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    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i would just like to point out too that the ball to Ballard on the 3rd and long was a GREAT catch by Ballard - but thats the type of throws that Eli gets NO CREDIT for.

    That pass was just as impressive and beautiful as the catch. Just from past discussions thats the exact type of ball that I am talking about when I say nobody gives Eli the credit fora placement like that.
    [/quote]
    It was a Morehead for sure.
    [/quote]

    lol here i'll do moorehead response to this:

    I want my QB to make plays and be a playmaker and sometimes its okay to throw into double coverage - like the ballard play


    [/quote]</p>


    It was a great pass and a great catch. Had to be made given the game situation.</p>


    Eli made a lot of nice throws yesterday. But he also made a bonehead play in the endzone that could have easily cost us the game. he did EXACTLY what I can't stand. Chucked it up for grabs in the face of a pass rush. It was a definate "chuck and duck" and you all know it.</p>


    But he did a great job in the 4th quarter and that was a glorious victory for our team. </p>


    On to SF where we WILL beat them.</p>


    [/quote]

    See this is where your opinions puzzle me. Define why is "HAD TO BE MADE". If it was picked off would you of still said that? doubtful

    And I agree - that is the exact play you talk about. That is also the same exact play that me and lando call a "MOOREHEAD". Had it been completed like other chuck n duck balls had been this season - u would of all of a sudden thought eli was hall of fame ready.

    Like I said, you look at the results of Eli this year and suggest that hes doing much better. But those same knocks that you said overshadow his performance statistically last year, he still does and you choose to ignore them or have some jaded reasoning as to why it was situationally okay
    [/quote]</p>


    No...I watch Eli play on the field and I see a better football player.</p>[/quote]

    when you make generic answers to my specific response - it lets me know that you know your wrong

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    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="byron"]

    [quote user="bigblue4417"]Miles Austin Hamstrings = Laurent Robinson [/quote] </p>


    </p>


    </p>


    just playing man...to bad for Miles</p>[/quote]
    LMAO!

    You should change your team name to Hammy Squad MMB.
    [/quote]

    lol and after Houston jamming the ball with th erun yesterday - ZERO shot Andre is full go this week, i doubt he suits up
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    Not a chance in hell.

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