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Matt and Daven are of the opinion that Eli is getting luckier this year and thats why his stats are pumped up.</P>
I guess it's better to be lucky than good.</P>
well not exactly..I do think there is a "marginal" improvement in his play, but Morehead keeps repeating that Eli "isn't making the same mistakes he was making last year" that I do not agree with....he still throws the ball from his back foot..he still throws into double coverage he still does all the things Morehead killed him for last year...with almost exactly the same frequency he did last year...I think the larger reason for the improved "results" this year is an increase in performance from his supporting cast...not so much luck.
Throwing off your back foot is not a mistake. Its neccessary in the NFL.</P>
He is better in the pocket. He is moving in the pocket to create more time and he has resisted (for the most part) the impulse to throw early into coverage before the play has sufficiently developed. He has thrown more balls away. He has taken more sacks if the situation calls for it. he has even dumped it off more when WR's downfield aren't open.</P>
I call that "significant improvement"</P>
Your view is that he's just "luckier". Which in my opinion is foolish.</P>
No my opinion is that he was doing all the things you've just mentioned last year as well with about the same frequency...my opinion is that his supporting cast (namely his receivers) are making less mistakes which is improving HIS overall results (be it numbers wins rating what have you) it is also my opinion that because the results are much improved from last year you are attributing them to some "phantom" jump in his play....his play IS better...but that's a very small percentage of why his results are better this year...Victor Cruz, Hakeem Nicks and Manningham improving...running the right routes...not setting the football up for Defensive backs as if they were playing volleyball like this did last year has a lot more to do with the increased performance this year then the small incremental improvements to Eli's game which have been happening since we drafted him.
Manningham isn't playing as well as last season. The O line isn't as good. The running game isn't as good. I'll give you Victor Cruz but he has had problems running the right routes all season and until 6 weeks ago, hadn't caught a pass in the NFL.</P>
I'm sorry Daven, the real difference is Eli's play.</P>
Nicks is better than he was last year
Cruz is better than what Mario was last year
Mario is better than any 3rd WR we've ever had
Ballard may end up having a better year than SHOCKEY ever did, even under Fasselll
Now go to the depth guys that aren't getting love - Barden just stepped in and made some plays.
The difference is that this time last year we were signing Michael Clayton and Derek Hagan off the streets to come be our #2 and #3 WRs
We were healthy at WR through the first half of last season. Apples to apples, Eli is significantly better.</P>
Stop trying to drag my QB down Matt.</P>