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[quote user="bigblue4417"]This whole Penn St thing is absolutely disgusting and unfathomable to me. Who can you even trust with your kids in this world anymore? How can someone do that to children and get any possible enjoyment out of it. My daughter is 5 and I cringe to think of the predators out there and the things she will have to deal with in her future. I can only hope things go back to the way they were when we were growing up. The world seemed much more innocent then....
yea, it's extremely disturbing....youre right. Unfathomable is a good description.
I watched Sportscenter on my lunch break yesterday, and Matt Millen(PSU Alum)nearly broke down in tears while trying to discuss the topic. Truly terrible.</p>
it is gross
The thing that isn't really sitting well with me is that Joe PAterno is being roasted. NOt that it isn't deserved but essentially he did the same thing, that the guy who saw this did.
The guy who saw it, reported it to his superior - no police
Joe-Pa reported it to his superior - no police.
not saying that was the right thing, but lets make sure we're putting the guy who saw it happen in the same catagory as Joe Pa - wherever you put him.
And honestly Joe Pa didn't see anything, so he almost had to be diplomatic and follow the chain of command, but the dude who saw it should of been at the police station that night
you cant be serious man...
if someone told you something of that magnitude, something that absoultely terrible....youre saying you would tell your boss? **** no....you report it to who does the real investigating: the police.
If someone ever told me that, immediately reported, i dont care if it's heresay....you cant ignore jsut because you dont think it's true, or w/e the case is.....it's immoral.</p>[/quote]
your reading comprehension isn't on today, your 0/2 lol
I personally hold Joe Pa responsibile as well. BUT my thing is that the guy who saw it and reported it to Joe Pa is actually worse than Joe Pa.
It is no worse, only difference is Joe Pa didn't see it. They both knew something happened and they both passed the buck without ever following up. The guy that saw it should have called the cops immediately, when Joe Pa found out he should have called the cops immediately and when the AD found out he should have done the same thing. Everyone is just as much at fault in my opinion and that is why the house needs to be cleaned. Everyone involved still works there. It happened in the showers in the locker room. They pass by that room every day of their life. How did the guy who originally saw it block that out. Every time he walked by the showers he would have to see it in his mind. I guess having a successful college program and money is more important than morals. I hope this guy gets the death penalty. It's always these big powerful guys who think they are above it all and abuse the power.
its ten times worse
One guy KNOWS it happened
another guy HEARD it happened.
You are starting to upset me. lol
He has to report it. So you heard a guy got shot and he is laying in the alley or you saw him get shot. So if you don't see it you are not going to report it?
So your nephew comes up to you and says my uncle touched me Matt and I didn't like it.
your nephew comes up to you and says my brother told me that dad touched him and he didn't like it.
How is that any ****ing different bro? You are not going to say anything since it's only hearsay?
You are walking a fine line here. It is your responsibility as a coach, mentor and above all a human being to say something regardless of the consequences. Furthermore, if you do say something which Joe Pa did and nothing happens then you can't sweep it under the rug. That is why his name will be tarnished forever and like I said earlier, it's only going to get worse once more stories start coming out.
i don't mean to upset you but bottom line, its hearsay to Joe Pa. The example you brought up is something thats happening in the moment- something that joe pa could go outside and see.
Truth is that it was an allegation to Joe Pa, this guy saw it. <u>Why is HE goin to his supervisor about this? </u>
Joe Pa played it right at first like I said. But the lack of reprocussion to Sandusky, or even if he didn't believe the WR coach the lack of reprocussion to him falls on Joe Pa.
If this guy had ran to Joe Pa's office while this guy was in the shower with the kid and did nothing, that would be a different story
[/quote]because hes the head coach. the buck stops with him. imo anyway. the wr coach isnt going to risk his job going to the police and cause a media circus. he would never be trusted in a locker room again if the accusation turned out to be false. honestly i probably would of done the same thing and brought it up to the head coach. i would feel like the dean or whatever would take the head coach more seriously.
you see something like that happen and u have any type of self respect or respect for mankind you go to the cops.
If he wanted to give Joe Pa a heads up before he went to the cops, thats fine. But to never bring it to the cops and stay working there and seeing sandusky, its unconceivable .
If possibly losing his job for reporting a rape isn't a respectable or valid excuse to let this guy destroy multiple childrens lives like this