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[quote user="lttaylor56"]So Paterno is no more. I think he would of coached until he dropped, wild horses were not going to pull him out of there. <font color="#0000ff">It's a shame, they should of allowed him a press conference, resign and step down that way.
You can't be serious?</p>
They could not have fired him quick enough. </p>
u do realize he wasn't the one who actually raped the kid and he wasn't the one the witnessed the rape, chose not to stop it, and never went to the police --- right?
And you do realize he was told by not one person, but two about what was going on. </p>
And I guess speaking to your higher ups is more important then doing the right thing, going to the police. </p>
Have you seen the interviews with Joe Paterno? It made me sick to see his responses, and then he gave the Penn State rally call?? Pathetic!!!!</p>
edit: There all <u>scum</u> in my eyes Matt...</p>
who was the other person? Only thing I've read was that McQueury brought it to his attention?
If your referencing the janitor, he went to HIS superior and apparently it died there
I just hate the fact that u guys are caught up on Paterno instead of actually getting to the source of this issue. I just think that your killing Joe Paterno cuz of his name. In this case while JP SHOULD be fired, out of all the list of characters he is the LAST person you should be talking about.
Why aren't you talking about the janitor who didn't choose to fill out the paper work or report it to the place? Why aren't you talking about the janitor's boss who didn't want to get involved because he was afraid of his job? Why aren't you talking about the other janitors who apparently the original guy discussed with what he saw? Why aren't you talking about McQeaury- the guy who saw the rape and didn't stop it and then felt it necessary to ONLY tell HIS superior?? Why aren't you talking about the other assistant coaches he conferred with before going to Paterno?
I'm not giving Paterno a pass at all but im sick of people pinning it on him, at least he passed it on to his higher ups. That doesn't cut it for McQueary - it wasn't just something he heard. He saw that **** with his own two eyes
Sorry but McQueary still has a job and he witnessed the rape, didn't stop it, and never brought it to the police. I don't care how much Joe Paterno means to Penn St, thats not good enough. In my eyes, hes as bad as Sandusky. Anybody that has the chance to stop somebody raping a child and does nothing is just as much of a scumbag. Oh but wait, he was worried about his job - thats a good reason to lay off him. But when something hearsay drops on Paternos lap, he should of just took no precaution and went to war with it.
There are two hypothetical truths about this whole situation. If the only thing Joe Pa did was bring it to the AD and
1) The AD did his job with it and didn't try to cover it up, NOBODY would be giving Joe Pa **** for following the chain of command. He actually would of been commended.
2) Had the AD did what he did, Joe Pa recognzied it and didn't let it go to bed or did something to bring this whole case back to life (Which is what he should of did) nobody would be looking to hang Joe Pa or have any knocks on him
Bottom line to say he should of went to the cops right away with a hearsay story of something that he can't confirm or deny is an emotional response with hindsight 20/20. Thats my only stance on Joe Pa
<font color="#0000ff">I just hate the fact that people are making him to be the biggest villian and making him the public scapegoat.</font> Let the media do that, but while we're having discussions realize the situation and don't just follow what outraged parents and people trying to sell the news are saying
Read the indictment.</p>
He's not a scapegoat, but he is involved. </p>
He did not commit the crime, but he did as minimal as possible for the situation. </p>
You keep making it out that he did what he had to do, well guess what. He did not!!!</p>
He choose to tell the information to his superiors, ok fine, then that's it. The situation got swept under the rug. He's a ****ing parent (Joe Paterno) He did not think for a second "hey maybe I should notify the authorities and get this situation brought to light" </p>
If it turns out it was just hear say then it's moved on, but if they find out there was rape and molestation going on they could have prevented it and kept future children from getting hurt. </p>
i think my stance on Joe Pa is very clear, but for some reaosn your not grasping it.
And i'm sorry he is being made the scapegoat because hes the biggest name. I have yet to hear you mention MCQueary as the pussified scumbag that he is. I have stated numerous times that at first Joe Pa did the smart thing, but once he saw nothing being done it made him get all he deserves for not trying to get to the bottom of it.
Read my posts, and see what my views are on McQueary.</p>[/quote]
okay and mind u this is for arguments sake:
and your going to throw McQueary in the same bag of blame as PAterno?