THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

[MattMeyerBud]

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[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i have a hard time giving the defense credit for balls that they didn't hurry the QB with that were just bad passes.
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<font color="#ff0000">Youre right.... I wish they were just caught by the eagles receivers so they could stick the fork in us earlier in the game....</font></p>


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u do realize that if a player gets beat, like Prince did on that play that means he DIDNT do a good job

he got lucky cuz young threw a bad ball

don't be a moron, ur already coming off half-twit when it comes to bradshaw
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he put himself in a position to make a play on the ball once it was in the air.
ALL INTERCEPTIONS are the result of just enough "mistake" from the qb to end up in a defenders hands, unless of course a WR just drops/tips a sure thing.
I'm not going to discredit our defense for getting 3 picks, when typically the secondaryhas been our weak spot on d. </p>


YES OF COURSE, our pass rush was ****. But 3 INTs on a game where our line was doing nothing, means the corners did the best they could.</p>[/quote]

Prince got beat... bottom line he lucked out it was a bad ball

He made a nice catch on it... i'll give him that. But in respect to what his responsibility is, he failed. He got bailed out by a bad ball by young.

I mean i just don't get it, are u denying that if Vince threw even a DECENT ball that it wouldn't of been completed for a huge gain?

[dezzzR]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"]Oh yea how has nobody mentioned the excellent game that Chris Canty had. That dude was all over the field

And on that note, WTF if our offense wasnt totally anemic we would have had that game in the damned bag. Our D was stellar for 90% of the game, we FINALLY had some run D, and our guys other than the DEs were really puttin in work.

Our Offense was the problem, they kept the defense on the field for waaaaay too long. 10second drives are not what wins games, unless they result in long bomb TDs but thats not the case

Yes, everyone wants to burn Jacobs at the stake but it was our offense as a whole that crapped the bed last nite

Oh and Weatherford is an AMAZING punter, the guys kicks are constantly money[/quote]


yea def the DTs played great. Joseph too.

Na man I really can't call our defense steller. We played a bunch of second stringers and we got lucky that DJax is a punk and that VY threw some garbage picks. We did a great job of containing McCoy - thats about as far of praise as I can give.

That offense shouldn't of scored more than once
[/quote]OK maybe 'stellar' was a lil much, but they played excellent.

We finally had some run D and it was against one of the best RBs in the game.

Those picks other than the 1 that bounced off the eagles helmet were skill not luck, ya gotta give some credit man.

We still play too much zone for my liking, im a press bump n run kinda guy. I want out DBs smacking their diva WRs in the mouth (think slightly less dirty Cortland Finnegan, LOL)

That offense shouldnt have scored more than once cause we were holdin it down on D, but since our Offense kept coming off the field with short 10-30sec drives our D was out there all damned day.[/quote]

Prince's pick was under thrown and Ross's pick was just a brutal throw right to him which happened in the endzone and he was lucky to stay in bounds. Im saying it just wasn't because our CBs made breaks on the ball, we were lucky VY wa smaking mistakes is my point

but your right about TOP
[/quote]WOW, you're hating hard body on our D right now.

Those 2 picks were def skill, Prince jumped the route and Ross had tight coverage the whole way down the field into the end zone, I dont know what else you could want from our 2ndary??

We cant pick off EVERY pass man[/quote]
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I am hating on them and mind u I defended them last week when dezz was trying to kill them. </u>

Prince didn't jump it, he jumped FOR it. If Young was able to lead instead of under throw it was TD Eagles. He made the play, but again, got lucky that Young couldn't make the throw.

[/quote]and rightly so, we got alex smithed.
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lol its amazing how u can<u> give the defense a pass for yesterday</u> but kill them for SF...

ur nuts
[/quote]did i? im pretty sure i said 6 3rd down conversions on the last drive alone were a joke.
and failing in key moments for 2 years, ect. you know, my usual weekly fewell is garbage rants.

[MattMeyerBud]

bottom line im not responding to each of u individually with the same thing...

If that was a better ball do u not agree that it would of been caught... Djax also had steps on him

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i have a hard time giving the defense credit for balls that they didn't hurry the QB with that were just bad passes.
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<font color="#ff0000">Youre right.... I wish they were just caught by the eagles receivers so they could stick the fork in us earlier in the game....</font></p>[/quote]

u do realize that if a player gets beat, like Prince did on that play that means he DIDNT do a good job

he got lucky cuz young threw a bad ball

don't be a moron, ur already coming off half-twit when it comes to bradshaw
[/quote] He initially got beat then showed some nice recovery and made a play on the ball, I dont know what else you want

Yea it would be great for our DBs to press their WRs so hard they cant get 5yds down the field[/quote]

yea but thats my point Kase...

He wouldn't of had a chance of recovery if it wasn't a bad ball by Young...

i call that lucky since he was lucky the pass wasn't good

[Morehead State]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i have a hard time giving the defense credit for balls that they didn't hurry the QB with that were just bad passes.
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<FONT color=#ff0000>Youre right.... I wish they were just caught by the eagles receivers so they could stick the fork in us earlier in the game....</FONT></P>


[/quote]

u do realize that if a player gets beat, like Prince did on that play that means he DIDNT do a good job

he got lucky cuz young threw a bad ball

don't be a moron, ur already coming off half-twit when it comes to bradshaw
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he put himself in a position to make a play on the ball once it was in the air.
ALL INTERCEPTIONS are the result of just enough "mistake" from the qb to end up in a defenders hands, unless of course a WR just drops/tips a sure thing.
I'm not going to discredit our defense for getting 3 picks, when typically the secondaryhas been our weak spot on d. </P>


YES OF COURSE, our pass rush was ****. But 3 INTs on a game where our line was doing nothing, means the corners did the best they could.</P>


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Prince got beat... bottom line he lucked out it was a bad ball

He made a nice catch on it... i'll give him that. But in respect to what his responsibility is, he failed. He got bailed out by a bad ball by young.

I mean i just don't get it, are u denying that if Vince threw even a DECENT ball that it wouldn't of been completed for a huge gain?
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Matt...It was his FIRST PLAY IN THE NFL!! He didn't even get a chance to play in a pre season game. The guy recovers from a slip and wrestles it away from the WR for a pick.</P>


Cut the kid some slack for God's sake. It was a good play.</P>

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i have a hard time giving the defense credit for balls that they didn't hurry the QB with that were just bad passes.
[/quote]</p>


<font color="#ff0000">Youre right.... I wish they were just caught by the eagles receivers so they could stick the fork in us earlier in the game....</font></p>


[/quote]

u do realize that if a player gets beat, like Prince did on that play that means he DIDNT do a good job

he got lucky cuz young threw a bad ball

don't be a moron, ur already coming off half-twit when it comes to bradshaw
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In order for that play to work the QB would have had to throw the ball 75 yards in the air. It was a good pick. Yes he slipped but he outfought the WR for the ball and thats a very good thing. If it was Will Allen or Kevin Dockery, it would have bounced off their hands and gone for a TD for Philly.</p>


It was a good play for a guy litterally was playing his first play in the NFL.</p>[/quote]

im not killing him or saying luck isn't a good thing

Im just not going to praise the defense for that as a body of work overall. When the offense makes mistakes due to nothign we did - how can u mark a positive up for our play? I just call that being lucky.

I dont think our defense played nearly as good as you guys are suggesting. TOP makes a huge idfference though.

[Morehead State]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i have a hard time giving the defense credit for balls that they didn't hurry the QB with that were just bad passes.
[/quote]</P>


<FONT color=#ff0000>Youre right.... I wish they were just caught by the eagles receivers so they could stick the fork in us earlier in the game....</FONT></P>


[/quote]

u do realize that if a player gets beat, like Prince did on that play that means he DIDNT do a good job

he got lucky cuz young threw a bad ball

don't be a moron, ur already coming off half-twit when it comes to bradshaw
[/quote] He initially got beat then showed some nice recovery and made a play on the ball, I dont know what else you want Yea it would be great for our DBs to press their WRs so hard they cant get 5yds down the field[/quote]

yea but thats my point Kase...

He wouldn't of had a chance of recovery if it wasn't a bad ball by Young...

i call that lucky since he was lucky the pass wasn't good
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It wasn't a bad throw. he threw it as far as he could. As I said, it would have had to be thrown 75 yards in the air to hit him in stride.</P>


You are being foolish here. Webby got beat in the Buffalo game but recovered and made a nice pick. It happens.</P>

[Kase-1]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]bottom line im not responding to each of u individually with the same thing...

If that was a better ball do u not agree that it would of been caught... Djax also had steps on him
[/quote]And one of the things that scouts and GMs rate DBs on is their recovery skill. They expect a DB to get beat once in a while, but do they have the smarts and skill to see where the route is going to develop and if he has the wheels to make up lost ground

IMO to see Prince come back like that was something REAL nice. You can see it in whatever sourpuss jaded way you want to, but it was a great play just like the Ross INT

[Morehead State]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i have a hard time giving the defense credit for balls that they didn't hurry the QB with that were just bad passes.
[/quote]</P>


<FONT color=#ff0000>Youre right.... I wish they were just caught by the eagles receivers so they could stick the fork in us earlier in the game....</FONT></P>


[/quote]

u do realize that if a player gets beat, like Prince did on that play that means he DIDNT do a good job

he got lucky cuz young threw a bad ball

don't be a moron, ur already coming off half-twit when it comes to bradshaw
[/quote]</P>


In order for that play to work the QB would have had to throw the ball 75 yards in the air. It was a good pick. Yes he slipped but he outfought the WR for the ball and thats a very good thing. If it was Will Allen or Kevin Dockery, it would have bounced off their hands and gone for a TD for Philly.</P>


It was a good play for a guy litterally was playing his first play in the NFL.</P>


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im not killing him or saying luck isn't a good thing

Im just not going to praise the defense for that as a body of work overall. When the offense makes mistakes due to nothign we did - how can u mark a positive up for our play? I just call that being lucky.

I dont think our defense played nearly as good as you guys are suggesting. TOP makes a huge idfference though.
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Luck my ***. the guy made a great play on the ball. </P>


And the defense sucked last night. But not because of the secondary.It was mostly or all on the lack of pass rush.</P>

[Kase-1]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i have a hard time giving the defense credit for balls that they didn't hurry the QB with that were just bad passes.
[/quote]</p>


<font color="#ff0000">Youre right.... I wish they were just caught by the eagles receivers so they could stick the fork in us earlier in the game....</font></p>[/quote]

u do realize that if a player gets beat, like Prince did on that play that means he DIDNT do a good job

he got lucky cuz young threw a bad ball

don't be a moron, ur already coming off half-twit when it comes to bradshaw
[/quote] He initially got beat then showed some nice recovery and made a play on the ball, I dont know what else you want

Yea it would be great for our DBs to press their WRs so hard they cant get 5yds down the field[/quote]

yea but thats my point Kase...

He wouldn't of had a chance of recovery if it wasn't a bad ball by Young...

i call that lucky since he was lucky the pass wasn't good
[/quote]He wouldnt have had a chance of recovery if he didnt initially get beat, but he did and he recovered. You say it was a bad throw but now theres talk of a QB battle brewing in Philthy, VY played a good game like he always does against us but you cant take away the fact that Prince made a good play and showed some nice skill