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    Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]

    [quote user="lawl"]The circumstances of his experience in the league and injury has absolutely no bearing on whether or not he was beat nor whether not it was a bad pass. Was prince beat in the play? Yes Was the throw/timing by VY bad? Yes Thats all it comes down to[/quote]</p>


    Was there a point in the play where DJax had a step on Prince?....Yes</p>


    Was Prince in a good position to make a play unless the pass was absolutely perfect?,,,,Yes</p>


    Has Vince Young ever thrown a perfect 65 yard pass?...Probably not.</p>


    Does a guy deserve to get slammed when he starts a player in FF who's on a bye?.....Big time.</p>[/quote]

    to your #2 point, false. he wa sin good position until he tripped..
    [/quote]Morehead is def right on this one, he was in good position lost a step and stayed in good position resulting in the INT, if he wasnt in good position he wouldnt have had the pick


    Are we really STILL talking about the Prince pick!!?!?!?
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    Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]if ur dback gets burnt and then the QB throws a bad ball to a wide open WR that gets picked- thats not earned - thats lucked out
    [/quote]LOL I can keep this up all day man If your dback makes a heads up play after slipping and then makes a play on the ball its skill not luck[/quote]
    LOL Kase, listen man....

    If the ball is thrown correctly it's a TD right?

    so,

    If the ball is underthrown giving the CB that slipped a chance to make the play it's lucky that he had that chance.

    hence,

    Prince made a great play by getting back in there and catching the ball. He was lucky to have the chance because it should have been a TD.
    [/quote]</p>


    INCORRECT!!!</p>


    The ball had to be thrown farther than Vince Young has ever throw a ball to be throw correct.</p>


    And you said he had 4 or five steps on Prince? Thats like 8 yards for God's sake. That was never the case.</p>


    [/quote]
    He is almost 5 yards past him at one point. It was about a 50 or 55 yard pass. We all know VY can throw it farther than that. But since you don't believe me you can watch it for yourself.
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOfw5lIrpg8">
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOfw5lIrpg8</a>
    [/quote]
    <font color="#0000ff" size="4">Morehead</font>

    Still waiting to see what you say about this? I just saw you said it would have had to be a 75 yard pass. You are wrong sir. Watch the replay...
    [/quote]</p>


    First of all it looks to me like the coverage was much better than I remembered. He never had more than a step on Prince. Secondly the throw had to be throw from inside the 5 which makes it 55 yards. that pass had to be thrown another 10 yards to be over Prince's head on a full sprint. So 65 yards and not 75 yards. (I was making the 75 yard thing up anyway). Both players came to almost a complete stop.<font color="#0000ff"> <font color="#000000">If not for the slight slip</font>,</font> Prince would have been step for step.</p>


    The point I was making is that VY had to throw it further than he was capable, and that makes it good coverage. If you watch Young throw the ball, you will see that he threw it as far as he could.</p>[/quote]
    It was a great play by Prince. He made up the ground and made a great pick.

    We were lucky the ball was not thrown where it should have and could have.

    [/quote]
    they convinced me lando

    it was pure skill on Prince's part to make VY under throw the ball...

    this kid has powers beyond imagination
    [/quote]oh stop acting like a swamp donkey and just be happy a high round pick caught an int his first snap against jackson. in man coverage might i add.

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    Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Kase-1"]Bottom line is he got beat at the LOS and recovered cause he knew where the route was developing. Skill over luck my friend[/quote]
    You need to watch the replay to. He didn't get beat at the LOS. ***boy just ran past him. Then he could have been called for illegal contact but wasn't. He was lucky VY didn't throw it farther because that should have been a TD. He shouldn't have even had a chance to make a play on the ball.

    It was lucky Kase...lol
    [/quote]They just showed the replay on NFL Primetime and it was damned good coverage, you and matt need to lay off the hatorade. He was almost step by step with him and when the ball was in the air he jumped infront of DJ and made a play You n Matt call it luck, Ill call it skill and a beautiful INT[/quote]</P>


    I'm very happy to be on Kase's side on this one. I feel badly that I kicked his *** so badly this weekend.</P>


    You guys need to cut the kid some slack. Word is that two weeks ago, he was still limping in practice on that broken foot.</P>


    Then he goes out, on his first play ever in the NFL and takes the ball away from Desean Jackson. </P>


    Do you guys even have a heart? Or is it just me and Kase?</P>


    [/quote]Thanks for rubbing it in buddy, LOL I dont thinke they realize that he hasnt really been practicing up to full speed for months and the 1st play the kid is in on and they say its all luck and no skill.... How can you hate on that badass gumby (hair) cut that Prince has I think me you and Pizz are the only ones out there that are reasonable on this one. Kid doesnt play in about a year, 1st play makes a pick on a game changing WR and people say it was all luck..... Cmaaaaaannnnn[/quote]
    It was lucky the ball was underthrown. The pick was not lucky at all. Had the ball not been underthrown there would have been no pick at all because ***boy would still be running.

    How many more times will I have to say this? lol
    [/quote]It wasnt a perfect pass, and no INT is a perfect pass, but you guys are practically burning this guy at the stake for making an INT on his 1st nfl play Yea and if it was Peyton Manning throwing the ball to Amani Toomer it would be the sexiest play ever, BFD. Enough with all these if's and woulda coulda shoulda stuff Prince made a sexy INT you and MMB now have to live with it and EMBRACE it[/quote]</P>


    Because they are a bunch of Giants haters, Kase.</P>


    You know since Matt has McCoy on that last long run Matt was yelling..."Go..go....go!!!!!!!"</P>


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    Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i love how Kase has turned our argument that we got lucky or weren't lucky on a specific play into me hating and thinkg Prince sucks

    Has pappy recruited you for #teamdramatic? Say it ain't so
    [/quote]Same as you turning me saying Prince has skills to he is some mythical creature like a half man half unicorn that runs on luck and rainbows
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    Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"]

    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Kase-1"]Bottom line is he got beat at the LOS and recovered cause he knew where the route was developing. Skill over luck my friend[/quote]
    You need to watch the replay to. He didn't get beat at the LOS. ***boy just ran past him. Then he could have been called for illegal contact but wasn't. He was lucky VY didn't throw it farther because that should have been a TD. He shouldn't have even had a chance to make a play on the ball.

    It was lucky Kase...lol
    [/quote]They just showed the replay on NFL Primetime and it was damned good coverage, you and matt need to lay off the hatorade. He was almost step by step with him and when the ball was in the air he jumped infront of DJ and made a play You n Matt call it luck, Ill call it skill and a beautiful INT[/quote]</p>


    I'm very happy to be on Kase's side on this one. I feel badly that I kicked his *** so badly this weekend.</p>


    You guys need to cut the kid some slack. Word is that two weeks ago, he was still limping in practice on that broken foot.</p>


    Then he goes out, on his first play ever in the NFL and takes the ball away from Desean Jackson. </p>


    Do you guys even have a heart? Or is it just me and Kase?</p>[/quote]Thanks for rubbing it in buddy, LOL

    I dont thinke they realize that he hasnt really been practicing up to full speed for months and the 1st play the kid is in on and they say its all luck and no skill.... How can you hate on that badass gumby (hair) cut that Prince has

    I think me you and Pizz are the only ones out there that are reasonable on this one. Kid doesnt play in about a year, 1st play makes a pick on a game changing WR and people say it was all luck..... Cmaaaaaannnnn[/quote]
    It was lucky the ball was underthrown. The pick was not lucky at all. Had the ball not been underthrown there would have been no pick at all because ***boy would still be running.

    How many more times will I have to say this? lol
    [/quote]It wasnt a perfect pass, and no INT is a perfect pass, but you guys are practically burning this guy at the stake for making an INT on his 1st nfl play

    Yea and if it was Peyton Manning throwing the ball to Amani Toomer it would be the sexiest play ever, BFD. Enough with all these if's and woulda coulda shoulda stuff

    Prince made a sexy INT you and MMB now have to live with it and EMBRACE it[/quote]

    we're dissecting a specific play to a debate over how the defense played

    ur trying to turn this into us flaming Prince. Players get beat, he tripped and got beat. He was lucky it was under thrown. If it wasn't he wouldn't of had a play on the ball.

    So to suggest he didn't get lucky it was under thrown is ridiculous
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    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i love how Kase has turned our argument that we got lucky or weren't lucky on a specific play into me hating and thinkg Prince sucks

    Has pappy recruited you for #teamdramatic? Say it ain't so
    [/quote]</P>


    Lets face it Matt, you hate Prince. You're probably pissed off that we didn't trade that pick for John Henderson.</P>


    Hahahahhahahaaaaaa!!!!!!!!</P>
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    Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="Kase-1"]Bottom line is he got beat at the LOS and recovered cause he knew where the route was developing. Skill over luck my friend[/quote]
    You need to watch the replay to. He didn't get beat at the LOS. ***boy just ran past him. Then he could have been called for illegal contact but wasn't. He was lucky VY didn't throw it farther because that should have been a TD. He shouldn't have even had a chance to make a play on the ball.

    It was lucky Kase...lol
    [/quote]They just showed the replay on NFL Primetime and it was damned good coverage, you and matt need to lay off the hatorade. He was almost step by step with him and when the ball was in the air he jumped infront of DJ and made a play You n Matt call it luck, Ill call it skill and a beautiful INT[/quote]</P>


    I'm very happy to be on Kase's side on this one.** I feel badly that I kicked his *** so badly this weekend.</P>


    You guys need to cut the kid some slack.* Word is that two weeks ago, he was still limping in practice on that broken foot.*</P>


    *Then he goes out, on his first play ever in the NFL and takes the ball away from Desean Jackson.** </P>


    Do you guys even have a heart?* Or is it just me and Kase?</P>


    [/quote]Thanks for rubbing it in buddy, LOL I dont thinke they realize that he hasnt really been practicing up to full speed for months and the 1st play the kid is in on and they say its all luck and no skill.... How can you hate on that badass gumby (hair) cut that Prince has I think me you and Pizz are the only ones out there that are reasonable on this one. Kid doesnt play in about a year, 1st play makes a pick on a game changing WR and people say it was all luck..... Cmaaaaaannnnn[/quote]
    It was lucky the ball was underthrown. The pick was not lucky at all. Had the ball not been underthrown there would have been no pick at all because ***boy would still be running.

    How many more times will I have to say this? lol
    [/quote]It wasnt a perfect pass, and no INT is a perfect pass, but you guys are practically burning this guy at the stake for making an INT on his 1st nfl play Yea and if it was Peyton Manning throwing the ball to Amani Toomer it would be the sexiest play ever, BFD. Enough with all these if's and woulda coulda shoulda stuff Prince made a sexy INT you and MMB now have to live with it and EMBRACE it[/quote]</P>


    Because they are a bunch of Giants haters, Kase.</P>


    You know since Matt has McCoy on that last long run Matt was yelling..."Go..go....go!!!!!!!"</P>


    *</P>[/quote]LOL MMB actually told me that pic of 'blondies ex' is actually a younger pic of him and that Matt is really an iggles spy

    LOL jk buddy
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    Coughlin says he did not question team's effort but wasn't happy with intensity. He's encouraged hearing that players are angry.

    Coughlin on his harsh postgame assessment a day later, "I wish I wasn't right."

    Coughlin said "my blood pressure" is still rising a day after loss to Eagles despite picking Young off 3xs.

    Coughlin says blocking was more the culprit of poor running game, not
    Jacobs. He said tight ends, backs and line must block better.

    Coughlin says CB Michael Coe will require surgery on shoulder and "we will lose him."

    Coughlin said Jimmy Kennedy will be put back on 53-man roster. Will Beatty getting back checked out.



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    [quote user="JPizzack"]

    [quote user="dezzzR"]yea like iv been saying, we need some tude/swag on this team. stra had it, ap had it. its an aggressive im going to do anything to win attitude. and its contagious.
    Ill always remember stra standing up turner one year we played atlanta. one of the first plays of the game, run to stra side, turner gets wrecked, mike gets up and shouts as loud as he can literally in turners face "YOU KNOW YOU CANT RUN ON 92 *****!!!!!!". needless to say we beat the **** out of the falcons that game.
    team needs to get mean. enough slapping helmets of opposing players. its like theres not a mean bone on the whole d. it reminds me of the scene from the little giants http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixsXk...eature=related
    "intimidation, raaaghrrrrrr"
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    not that it's relevant....but, Turner didn't play in Atlanta when Strahan played.
    He was Ladanian's backup in SD still.

    HOWEVER, the overall point I understand, and agree with lol</p>[/quote]opps yea it was dunn i believe.

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    Re: THEE GAME IS vs THE BUFFALO BILLS ON OCT 16th!

    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]i love how Kase has turned our argument that we got lucky or weren't lucky on a specific play into me hating and thinkg Prince sucks

    Has pappy recruited you for #teamdramatic? Say it ain't so
    [/quote]Same as you turning me saying Prince has skills to he is some mythical creature like a half man half unicorn that runs on luck and rainbows[/quote]

    thats not what the point of me saying that was...

    the point was he was lucky the ball was under thrown or it would of been ugly, 89 yard TD lucky. Thats why its hard to give props for saying our defense did a good job. Again, this is all about dissecting the defenses overall performance.
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