THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

[JPizzack]

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The Nets could trade for Dwight Howard as soon as Friday, according to Chris Broussard on ESPN.com.</P></DIV>
<DIV class=impact>Howard is expected to soon tell the Magic that he won't re-sign with them, and he sounds ready to team with Deron Williams as the Nets move to Brooklyn in 2012-13. New Jersey has reportedly offered Brook Lopez and two future first-round picks, and they might send more players while taking back Hedo Turkoglu and his bad contract. This is in the rumor phase right now, and Broussard notes that New Jersey is still pursuing Nene in case they don't land Dwight. </DIV>


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listen i Like Lopez hes decent. Your not going to get a better chance to get a decent big man, dump a contract, and get some picks for the future.

Why you would want to get nothing back for that is ******ed.

CP3 to Lakers this year, then knicks this year

DHow to Nets for life
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Brook + the picks is a pretty good deal, I must say.</P>

[bigblue4417]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_47">Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert called the New Orleans Hornets’ proposed trade of <span class="ysp-player">Chris Paul</span> to the Los Angeles Lakers
a “travesty,” and urged NBA commissioner David Stern to put the deal to
a vote of the league’s 29 owners in an email obtained by Yahoo! Sports.
Gilbert sent the email to Stern, deputy commissioner Adam Silver and a
handful of Gilbert’s ownership peers on Thursday.</p>

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The following is the email in its entirety:</p>


Commissioner,</p><i id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_310">
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_309">It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_312">This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_311">Over the next three seasons this
deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and
approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to
non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_313">I cannot remember ever seeing a
trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved
over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would
give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for <span class="ysp-player">Dwight Howard.</span>
(They would also get a large trade exception that would help them
improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers
got <span class="ysp-player">Pau Gasol</span>
(at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens
of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a
number of prospects (one in <span class="ysp-player">Marc Gasol</span> who may become a max-salary player).</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_314">I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.</p>


I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.</p>


When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_315">Please advise….</p>
[/i]

Dan G.</p>


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Not for nothing but the reality of it is that this whole theory is garbage. This guy is still butt hurt over losing Lebron, which is understandable. But the truth is that if he wasn't such a stubborn *** and would of been open to approaching Lebron in an honest way and open to trading him before the deadline in his last season, his tema would of been in a MUCH better position. Go ask the Nuggets.
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Lets review the trade: Lakers make a move to dump salary cap - okay. They are getting a guy who has basically said that he WILL NOT resign with the Lakers and is heading to NY next year. Even still, Paul is best player in the deal but I do NOT think that the Lakers get better. Not this year and def not next year. Is it illegal to try and dump big contracts? Its like reverse discrimination.</p>


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Hornets should be happy - they are getting some legit role players instead of just taking the hit of losing a superstar, like the Cavs did ironically. Houston just got a superstar at center. Hornets aren't happy about losing CP, but its inevitable.</p>


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I went from liking this guys and feeling sorry for him to thinking hes an *******. "Its not fair, their GM is making good moves."
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He sounds like me crying about fantasy football. lol And just like me he is wrong. He is bitter about losing Lebron and he is just bitter in general. He is also upset because of the financial savings the Lakers would have and he won't get the revenue sharing from us being over the cap. He sounds like a crybaby *****. **** the Cavs and **** him. Maybe he should have built a better team around Lebron instead of Mo Williams, Varejo, Z and other scrubs.

The NBA backed itself into a corner on this one. Now the Hornets aren't going to be able to trade Paul at all. How can the NBA let him go somewhere else if he can't come to LA. So it would be ok if he got traded to the Blazers. He should not be able to be traded anywhere. Then the Hornets won't get anything for him. This trade was fair for everyone.

David Stern didn't even give the teams involved a chance to increase the offer or tell them what would need to happen to make it go through. He just straight said no. It's so ****ed. Alot of people are saying the Lakers would be worse with this trade.

[JPizzack]

[quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="JPizzack"]ain't happenin [/quote]
You are like a scorn ex girlfriend when it comes to the NBA.
[/quote]</P>


cuz it's so ****ing corrupt, dude. youre so blinded because 90% of the time, it's your team doing the ripping off....

I mean, i KNOW youre upset if you dont get Paul....but, this trade STUNK of bull**** from the moment it was announced. A team owned by the NBA, who is tring to sell the team....and they are A) dumping one of hte best players in the league for NOTHING...to a team who is STEALING him, and MAKING MONEY OFF THE DEAL!!!!
And you think for some reason this is normal???</P>


And then you post some twitter feed of a guy who called the NJ offer of 2 first rounders and a center for Howard "garbage"? quit drinkin the koolaide bro....</P>

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_47">Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert called the New Orleans Hornets’ proposed trade of <span class="ysp-player">Chris Paul</span> to the Los Angeles Lakers
a “travesty,” and urged NBA commissioner David Stern to put the deal to
a vote of the league’s 29 owners in an email obtained by Yahoo! Sports.
Gilbert sent the email to Stern, deputy commissioner Adam Silver and a
handful of Gilbert’s ownership peers on Thursday.</p>

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The following is the email in its entirety:</p>


Commissioner,</p><i id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_310">
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_309">It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_312">This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_311">Over the next three seasons this
deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and
approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to
non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_313">I cannot remember ever seeing a
trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved
over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would
give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for <span class="ysp-player">Dwight Howard.</span>
(They would also get a large trade exception that would help them
improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers
got <span class="ysp-player">Pau Gasol</span>
(at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens
of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a
number of prospects (one in <span class="ysp-player">Marc Gasol</span> who may become a max-salary player).</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_314">I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.</p>


I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.</p>


When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?</p>
<p id="yui_3_4_1_1_1323445002840_315">Please advise….</p>
[/i]

Dan G.</p>


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</p>

Not for nothing but the reality of it is that this whole theory is garbage. This guy is still butt hurt over losing Lebron, which is understandable. But the truth is that if he wasn't such a stubborn *** and would of been open to approaching Lebron in an honest way and open to trading him before the deadline in his last season, his tema would of been in a MUCH better position. Go ask the Nuggets.
</p>

Lets review the trade: Lakers make a move to dump salary cap - okay. They are getting a guy who has basically said that he WILL NOT resign with the Lakers and is heading to NY next year. Even still, Paul is best player in the deal but I do NOT think that the Lakers get better. Not this year and def not next year. Is it illegal to try and dump big contracts? Its like reverse discrimination.</p>


</p>

Hornets should be happy - they are getting some legit role players instead of just taking the hit of losing a superstar, like the Cavs did ironically. Houston just got a superstar at center. Hornets aren't happy about losing CP, but its inevitable.</p>


</p>

I went from liking this guys and feeling sorry for him to thinking hes an *******. "Its not fair, their GM is making good moves."
</p>


</p>[/quote]
He sounds like me crying about fantasy football. lol And just like me he is wrong. He is bitter about losing Lebron and he is just bitter in general. He is also upset because of the financial savings the Lakers would have and he won't get the revenue sharing from us being over the cap. He sounds like a crybaby *****. **** the Cavs and **** him. Maybe he should have built a better team around Lebron instead of Mo Williams, Varejo, Z and other scrubs.

The NBA backed itself into a corner on this one. Now the Hornets aren't going to be able to trade Paul at all. How can the NBA let him go somewhere else if he can't come to LA. So it would be ok if he got traded to the Blazers. He should not be able to be traded anywhere. Then the Hornets won't get anything for him. This trade was fair for everyone.

David Stern didn't even give the teams involved a chance to increase the offer or tell them what would need to happen to make it go through. He just straight said no. It's so ****ed. Alot of people are saying the Lakers would be worse with this trade.

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LMFAO i wasn't going to go there but thats exactly what it reminded me of.

I agree the luxory tax has something to do with it as well. But you cna't have it ALL for you. His misconception is that this move puts the Lakers over the top. I got to be honest Lando - I think this is a bad move for this year. Im sure they'll be able to get a top notch FA over the next few years but it won't be Paul.


He should of tried a move like this.and maybe he wouldn't have the most pitiful team in the NBA. He was king of bad contracts and no foresight. He tried just throwing it all on Lebron and it backfired. Personally I think he needs to sell the teams. Hes on tilt and jaded.

I agree with you Lando, this is horse****. I think this **** backfires and he goes to the Lakers.

I do feel bad for Stern, hes in a lose/lose situation. I think this is the beginning of the end for him

[lttaylor56]

Am. Airlines filed ch 11? Wtf, I was busy sleeping at the wheel on that one! ****me! Gd - I hate this economy, bring back the late 90's into mid 2000's.

[JPizzack]

for the record, yes I believe the Gilbert nonsense was a bit drastic. I feel something would have been done anyway, but he does constantly come across as whiny.

[JPizzack]

[quote user="lttaylor56"]Am. Airlines filed ch 11? Wtf, I was busy sleeping at the wheel on that one! ****me! Gd - I hate this economy, bring back the late 90's into mid 2000's.[/quote]</P>


yea, happened last week....i got these emails about it because I have a card with a bunch of miles and stuff. that wont be affected they said though.</P>

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="JPizzack"]

[quote user="bigblue4417"][quote user="JPizzack"]ain't happenin [/quote]
You are like a scorn ex girlfriend when it comes to the NBA.
[/quote]</p>


cuz it's so ****ing corrupt, dude. youre so blinded because 90% of the time, it's your team doing the ripping off....

I mean, i KNOW youre upset if you dont get Paul....but, this trade STUNK of bull**** from the moment it was announced. A team owned by the NBA, who is tring to sell the team....and they are A) dumping one of hte best players in the league for NOTHING...to a team who is STEALING him, and MAKING MONEY OFF THE DEAL!!!!
And you think for some reason this is normal???</p>


And then you post some twitter feed of a guy who called the NJ offer of 2 first rounders and a center for Howard "garbage"? quit drinkin the koolaide bro....</p>[/quote]

I am an avid laker hater and I think its bull**** that this trade is held up.

Its a trade where all 3 teams benefit. If this was somebody like the Kings making a move to dump cap nobody would complain.

What was bull**** about it? ALL three teams improved their status. Maybe not the Hornets for THIS year, but when they lose Paul next year and get NOTHING for him then we'll see how much bull**** it was to try and dump him this year.

Scola, Martin, Odom are some damn fine roll players. If they can land a FA next year they will have a very legit team..

And I stand by my comment - Lakers get worse this year if they lose Gasol, Odom 4 CP3. They are doing it to switch **** up and open cap for the future. So suggest its a bull**** move because they free up cap money is stupid. Its good GM'ing. This isn't the original Gasol trade

[dezzzR]

i need anger management. the smallest **** and

[DavenIII]

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So, about that email....

does that mean we can apply and someone will look into it? There's no cost if we just let them look? I dont get it.</p>


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honestly I dont get it either. I just asked what the ****in record was lol
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yea, that's stupid.
Whatever, I say just do the application online, give them all the names, and contact info of whoever....and see if anything comes from it.</p>[/quote]Where did you see/read what the existing record is? I would think you should be able to cite that record, category or however Guiness maintains that particular record and advise of our thread number. Should be easy enough for them to verify online?[/quote]

i googled it and a message board came up and some guy knew what it was and they tried to start a thread to break it but only got to like 37,000
[/quote]37,000? What a rookie!

Have you found a category for the record on the Guiness site?

My goal was to destroy my competition so that they would never consider competing against me again....Arnold Schwarzennegger.[/quote]

na I haven't really done much for this except email them and a quick google search
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just send in an application for a new record (Forum Thread with Most Replies) or something like that and contact info,email seems to make it look like you were questioning what the current record is and they don't have a record for this yet...so just go to the place were you apply for having a new record...if it's not they'll tell you.