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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

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    My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


    Also,</P>


    Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


    "Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


    We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


    [/quote]</P>


    sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


    [/quote]</P>


    Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>


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    I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


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    In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</P>


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    if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
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    But you have no bullets.</P>


    I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</P>


    Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</P>


    Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</P>


    [/quote]

    Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

    Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

    like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game
    [/quote]</P>


    I'll arrange a meeting with the guy who disagrees with you completely AND who played in the run and shoot for many, many years.</P>


    Its that kind of comment that makes me want you on our show.</P>


    [/quote]

    thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

    i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
    [/quote]</P>


    Lomas was more pumped up than I was. He knows talent when he sees it. He said he knows people who can develop it. </P>


    Maybe you should get my autographnow before I'm too big to give you the time of day.</P>


    [/quote]

    Pappy mickey'd his drink

    I WISH he could of been here to see how you morph EVERYTHING about Eli. Your more inconsistent than Mark Sanchez
    [/quote]</P>


    I told him exactly what I told you at the Buffalo game. Eli is a much better player this season. He and essentially every other person other than you who has seen him play agrees with me.</P>


    [/quote]

    and like i've told you countless times

    Eli progresses EVERY year, that is nothing new. The degree that you THINK hes improved really isn't realistic.

    Alot of things you ragged on him for last season, he still does this year. Your just judging off of the end result of the play and not the player himself - regardless of what u say.

    He still throws into crowds like he did last year, you use to CONSTANTLY ***** about that. I pointed out how he gets balls into sick windows.

    We talked about a comfort level of WRs being onthe same page and seeing the same thing eli says, your response: your an eli homer.

    Throwing off his back foot? Stop it pappy, it still happens.

    High interception rate? Its CONSTANT in a Kevin Gilbride offense (because the passing game is based around the run n shoot). He still had 16 INTs this year. Take away the god awful tipped INTs last year and he would of been on par with the same type of ACCURACY performance.

    Not only that, this year he has Victor Cruz who is making his performance look EVEN BETTER than it actually is. Cruz has completely opened up the whole offense and has turned small plays into huge plays...

    Sorry pappy, everybody that has witnessed our debates knows your wrong. But on the bright side, because of that argument I do believe your a perfect fit for ESPN. You can't admit your wrong, backtrack and sidetrack to just take the heat off yourself, and everything you base your opinion on is stats and not actually watching the game

    I &lt;3 U
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    Getting you to type thisranting post is all the validation I need. You have become Daven.</P>


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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD



    [quote user="dezzzR"]Ya posted a fantastic article last week about that.
    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ew-york-giants
    [/quote]</P>


    lmao. i read that last week and all i thought about was MMB/MH constantly arguing over it.</P>
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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="JPizzack"]


    [quote user="dezzzR"]Ya posted a fantastic article last week about that.
    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ew-york-giants
    [/quote]</P>


    lmao. i read that last week and all i thought about was MMB/MH constantly arguing over it.</P>


    [/quote]</P>


    This writer has no idea what the run and shoot offense is.</P>


    Its 4 WR's. No TE's. A bunch of crossing patterns and a three step drop passing attack. </P>


    The Giants play a downfield, vertical passing game and a power run game. They often have 2 TE's on the field at the same time. Sometimes they even bring in an extra OT (We've seen Tony Ugoh on the filed many times. This is the opposite of the run and shoot.</P>


    We saw the run and shoot in Houston, Detroit and Atlanta. They all died to failure. The NFL athletes are too good and there is far too much exposure for the QB.</P>


    If his view is that since the Giants have a slot receiver that makes them a run and shoot offense, thats crazy. Every team has slot recievers. </P>


    The run and shoot died about 15 years ago and is only seen in college and high school. QB's were getting killed.</P>


    Show some knowledge people.</P>


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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    For the record....not that MH respects my opinion or anything....but i basically disagree with everything he says about Eli. lol
    I mean, i think we all agree this year was amazing, but Eli hasn't changed. He has the tools to get it done, and it shows.

    I like where the team is going in terms of figuring out what we need. Clearly they have been trying to rebuild this O-line, and i think that's the way we go in the draft this year. We got quite a few years left of this team staying top tier talent!
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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


    Also,</p>


    Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


    "Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


    We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


    [/quote]</p>


    sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


    [/quote]</p>


    Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>


    [/quote]

    I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


    [/quote]</p>


    In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</p>


    [/quote]

    if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
    [/quote]</p>


    But you have no bullets.</p>


    I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, <u>and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</u></p>


    Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</p>


    Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</p>[/quote]Ya posted a fantastic article last week about that.
    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ew-york-giants
    [/quote]

    LMFAO

    i love it

    how long have i been saying that?
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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
    thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

    i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
    [/quote]</p>


    Alot of shows in recent history have been starting as Pod Casts. If you market yourself well, you can get noticed and get quite a following</p>


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    yea I know

    so thats my goal basically... to post around the NFL message board leagues get familiar wtih most the regulars and figure out who could be a good representative for the teams fan base

    Then once we get it going, hopfully with a more local feel to it. Do a live show at a bar and try and get an athlete to interview a week, while promoting a bar night.

    Then take over the world


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    you should totally do it in Poughkeepsie, jussayin'</p>[/quote]

    well the plan is to get it going and figure out where we could draw the most people
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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

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    My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</p>


    Also,</p>


    Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</p>


    "Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</p>


    We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </p>


    [/quote]</p>


    sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</p>


    [/quote]</p>


    Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</p>


    [/quote]

    I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


    [/quote]</p>


    In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</p>


    [/quote]

    if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
    [/quote]</p>


    But you have no bullets.</p>


    I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</p>


    Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</p>


    Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</p>


    [/quote]

    Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

    Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

    like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game
    [/quote]</p>


    I'll arrange a meeting with the guy who disagrees with you completely AND who played in the run and shoot for many, many years.</p>


    Its that kind of comment that makes me want you on our show.</p>


    [/quote]

    thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

    i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
    [/quote]</p>


    Lomas was more pumped up than I was. He knows talent when he sees it. He said he knows people who can develop it. </p>


    Maybe you should get my autographnow before I'm too big to give you the time of day.</p>


    [/quote]

    Pappy mickey'd his drink

    I WISH he could of been here to see how you morph EVERYTHING about Eli. Your more inconsistent than Mark Sanchez
    [/quote]</p>


    I told him exactly what I told you at the Buffalo game. Eli is a much better player this season. He and essentially every other person other than you who has seen him play agrees with me.</p>


    [/quote]

    and like i've told you countless times

    Eli progresses EVERY year, that is nothing new. The degree that you THINK hes improved really isn't realistic.

    Alot of things you ragged on him for last season, he still does this year. Your just judging off of the end result of the play and not the player himself - regardless of what u say.

    He still throws into crowds like he did last year, you use to CONSTANTLY ***** about that. I pointed out how he gets balls into sick windows.

    We talked about a comfort level of WRs being onthe same page and seeing the same thing eli says, your response: your an eli homer.

    Throwing off his back foot? Stop it pappy, it still happens.

    High interception rate? Its CONSTANT in a Kevin Gilbride offense (because the passing game is based around the run n shoot). He still had 16 INTs this year. Take away the god awful tipped INTs last year and he would of been on par with the same type of ACCURACY performance.

    Not only that, this year he has Victor Cruz who is making his performance look EVEN BETTER than it actually is. Cruz has completely opened up the whole offense and has turned small plays into huge plays...

    Sorry pappy, everybody that has witnessed our debates knows your wrong. But on the bright side, because of that argument I do believe your a perfect fit for ESPN. You can't admit your wrong, backtrack and sidetrack to just take the heat off yourself, and everything you base your opinion on is stats and not actually watching the game

    I &lt;3 U
    [/quote]</p>


    Getting you to type thisranting post is all the validation I need. You have become Daven.</p>


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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"]


    [quote user="dezzzR"]Ya posted a fantastic article last week about that.
    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ew-york-giants
    [/quote]</p>


    lmao. i read that last week and all i thought about was MMB/MH constantly arguing over it.</p>


    [/quote]</p>


    This writer has no idea what the run and shoot offense is.</p>


    Its 4 WR's. No TE's. A bunch of crossing patterns and a three step drop passing attack. </p>


    The Giants play a downfield, vertical passing game and a power run game. They often have 2 TE's on the field at the same time. Sometimes they even bring in an extra OT (We've seen Tony Ugoh on the filed many times. This is the opposite of the run and shoot.</p>


    We saw the run and shoot in Houston, Detroit and Atlanta. They all died to failure. The NFL athletes are too good and there is far too much exposure for the QB.</p>


    If his view is that since the Giants have a slot receiver that makes them a run and shoot offense, thats crazy. Every team has slot recievers. </p>


    The run and shoot died about 15 years ago and is only seen in college and high school. QB's were getting killed.</p>


    Show some knowledge people.</p>


    </p>[/quote]The writer isnt saying we run a run and shoot offense though. Hes saying we take parts and pieces from the scheme, like the wrs routes. And thats nonsense, Iv seen plenty of crossing patterns this year. PLENTY, thats where many of those big tds come from. Like nicks against Atlanta (ran past 4 guys in the middle) and greenbay when he bounced off a defender and was gone. I think its very clear that Gilbride has taken some parts from the run and shoot and incorporated them into OUR system.

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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"]


    [quote user="dezzzR"]Ya posted a fantastic article last week about that.
    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ew-york-giants
    [/quote]</p>


    lmao. i read that last week and all i thought about was MMB/MH constantly arguing over it.</p>


    [/quote]</p>


    This writer has no idea what the run and shoot offense is.</p>


    Its 4 WR's. No TE's. A bunch of crossing patterns and a three step drop passing attack. </p>


    The Giants play a downfield, vertical passing game and a power run game. They often have 2 TE's on the field at the same time. Sometimes they even bring in an extra OT (We've seen Tony Ugoh on the filed many times. This is the opposite of the run and shoot.</p>


    We saw the run and shoot in Houston, Detroit and Atlanta. They all died to failure. The NFL athletes are too good and there is far too much exposure for the QB.</p>


    If his view is that since the Giants have a slot receiver that makes them a run and shoot offense, thats crazy. Every team has slot recievers. </p>


    The run and shoot died about 15 years ago and is only seen in college and high school. QB's were getting killed.</p>


    Show some knowledge people.</p>


    </p>[/quote]

    your focusing too much on formation for the run and shoot. Like I said and the article says (which u obviously didn't read fully) is that its not a true run and shoot offense.

    Like I said before, its a hybrid-balanced run and shoot. MANY of the passing traits in our offense are straight out of the Run and Shoot offense.

    This article explains it perfectly. Welcome to reality
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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

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    My lovely bride and I had dinner with Lomas Brown last night at Carbone's in Hartford last night. (BTW..one of the best Italian restaurants I've ever eaten at) I finally asked him about Steve's. He looked at me very puzzled and then he said...."wait a minute...Is it kind of a dump?".. I said.."Thats the place". Evidentally his O line coach took him there once. "Kind of a dump!!" I loved it.</P>


    Also,</P>


    Lomas wants to start a radio show with Good Ol' Morehead. Maybe at ESPN. He likes my idea of having a fans perspective instead of ex players and other talking heads.</P>


    "Lomas and Morehead"........ Fanfriggintastic!!!</P>


    We were talking about starting at tailgate parties at the stadium. </P>


    [/quote]</P>


    sounds fun. i'd like to be a special guest, where I just dispute everything you say =]</P>


    [/quote]</P>


    Meyerbud has to be our first guest.</P>


    [/quote]

    I am flattered, but ur too good of a friend to dookie on you on national TV


    [/quote]</P>


    In a battle of wits with Morehead....You are unarmed.</P>


    [/quote]

    if its a battle of wits, my sarcasm scope already has a red dot on your head
    [/quote]</P>


    But you have no bullets.</P>


    I think Lomas was especially impressed with the opinions that we share that Eli has improved substantially this season, and that the Giants don't play an offense that resembles the run and shoot in any way.</P>


    Oh Yeah.....And that Steve's is a dump.</P>


    Hahahahhahahhaha!!!!!</P>


    [/quote]

    Kevin Gilbride designed this offense coming out of being "THEE" run and shoot guy. Plenty of significant characteristics from the run and shoot.

    Although one thing I will say, over the past year or so we have using the multi motions as much. It use to be EVERY play we had like 5 guys moving.

    like I said we have a balanced/hybrid run and shoot game
    [/quote]</P>


    I'll arrange a meeting with the guy who disagrees with you completely AND who played in the run and shoot for many, many years.</P>


    Its that kind of comment that makes me want you on our show.</P>


    [/quote]

    thats fine, i'd love to debate it with him

    i just love the fact that you really think your going to get a show lol
    [/quote]</P>


    Lomas was more pumped up than I was. He knows talent when he sees it. He said he knows people who can develop it. </P>


    Maybe you should get my autographnow before I'm too big to give you the time of day.</P>


    [/quote]

    Pappy mickey'd his drink

    I WISH he could of been here to see how you morph EVERYTHING about Eli. Your more inconsistent than Mark Sanchez
    [/quote]</P>


    I told him exactly what I told you at the Buffalo game. Eli is a much better player this season. He and essentially every other person other than you who has seen him play agrees with me.</P>


    [/quote]

    and like i've told you countless times

    Eli progresses EVERY year, that is nothing new. The degree that you THINK hes improved really isn't realistic.

    Alot of things you ragged on him for last season, he still does this year. Your just judging off of the end result of the play and not the player himself - regardless of what u say.

    He still throws into crowds like he did last year, you use to CONSTANTLY ***** about that. I pointed out how he gets balls into sick windows.

    We talked about a comfort level of WRs being onthe same page and seeing the same thing eli says, your response: your an eli homer.

    Throwing off his back foot? Stop it pappy, it still happens.

    High interception rate? Its CONSTANT in a Kevin Gilbride offense (because the passing game is based around the run n shoot). He still had 16 INTs this year. Take away the god awful tipped INTs last year and he would of been on par with the same type of ACCURACY performance.

    Not only that, this year he has Victor Cruz who is making his performance look EVEN BETTER than it actually is. Cruz has completely opened up the whole offense and has turned small plays into huge plays...

    Sorry pappy, everybody that has witnessed our debates knows your wrong. But on the bright side, because of that argument I do believe your a perfect fit for ESPN. You can't admit your wrong, backtrack and sidetrack to just take the heat off yourself, and everything you base your opinion on is stats and not actually watching the game

    I &lt;3 U
    [/quote]</P>


    Getting you to type thisranting post is all the validation I need. You have become Daven.</P>


    </P>


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    </P>


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    [/quote]



    school is in session old man, take notes
    [/quote]</P>


    Matt,</P>


    A guy who played in the run and shoot says that the Giants offense is nothing like it.</P>


    By your logic, you could say that almost every team plays a version of the run and shoot. You do not know of what you speak.</P>
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