THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]I said he was cut...but he was a smaller guy....
there's no comparison. He has the upper body of a power lifter/ body buildernow.[/quote]

i disagree

that picture was of him in college next to dwayne bowe and jamarcus russell

5 years in the NFL and professional training - i bet its natural
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riiiiight...</p>


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dude he obviously had size to him, the college picture proves it

your taking a BLACK workout warrior take pics when hes obviously lifting or just got done lifting...

cuts look better then too.

I had black kids on my football team that NEVER worked out and had 8 packs
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there's a huge different between big, and inflated big. that's just unnatural big.</p>[/quote]i have to agree. his arms look un natural.
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lol white boys
[/quote]nothing to do with black or white. we all remember these pythons, brother.

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lol dude athletic black guys get crazy rips easy...

I knew a kid that benched like not even a plate on each side and when hes done it would of looked like he was a workout warrior...

alot of those skinny athletic black guys get cut and ripped SOOO easy

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]I said he was cut...but he was a smaller guy....
there's no comparison. He has the upper body of a power lifter/ body buildernow.[/quote]

i disagree

that picture was of him in college next to dwayne bowe and jamarcus russell

5 years in the NFL and professional training - i bet its natural
[/quote]</p>


riiiiight...</p>


[/quote]

dude he obviously had size to him, the college picture proves it

your taking a BLACK workout warrior take pics when hes obviously lifting or just got done lifting...

cuts look better then too.

I had black kids on my football team that NEVER worked out and had 8 packs
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there's a huge different between big, and inflated big. that's just unnatural big.</p>[/quote]i have to agree. his arms look un natural.
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lol white boys
[/quote]Which brings me to a possibility...if landry was a black guy...ehhhh. maybe a small chance he was all natural. But very small, like 2% chance. It's the look that gives it away every time. Do you see how thin his skin is? There's like nothing between his skin and the muscles. Then you add that type of size to the picture and it usually does not happen naturally. If I had to guess, he's running @5% bodyfat, maybe less. You just don't achieve that type of size with that low of a bodyfat % naturally. Sure I could go down to 5% bodyfat naturally, but I would look like sticks and bones. There's no way I could maintain my size or bodyweight.[/quote]

yea but u get that look post workout... if he was walking around natural like that then i'd understand

but he obviously just got done working out.

i still say its the black guy thing lol

[JPizzack]

[quote user="lttaylor56"]Which brings me to a possibility...if landry was a black guy...ehhhh. maybe a small chance he was all natural. But very small, like 2% chance. It's the look that gives it away every time. Do you see how thin his skin is? There's like nothing between his skin and the muscles. Then you add that type of size to the picture and it usually does not happen naturally. If I had to guess, he's running @5% bodyfat, maybe less. You just don't achieve that type of size with that low of a bodyfat % naturally. Sure I could go down to 5% bodyfat naturally, but I would look like sticks and bones. There's no way I could maintain my size or bodyweight.[/quote]</P>


LAWYERED!!!!!</P>

[Morehead State]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]
<H1 class=entry-title>LaRon Landry is looking quite large</H1>
<DIV class=blog-byline>By Dan Steinberg</DIV>


<SPAN class=imgfull>
<SPAN class=blog_caption></SPAN></SPAN>LaRon Landry hasn’t played a whole lot of football in recent seasons, but it looks like he’s still been lifting weights. Or elephants. Or elephants stuffed with weights.</P>


(Via his Twitter feed.)</P>


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DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!!</FONT>
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look at this size of his arms in both pictures. In one hes sweating and inflated... i wouldn't doubt that was post bicept work outs

dude is a professional athlete who always had a build like that and he has black guy build... i really don't think hes juiced


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He's obviously huge but its the extreemly low body fat that makes him look so cut. His muscularity is definately achievable through natural means. Doesn't mean he's not juicing but it can definately come naturally.</P>


The low body fat is just a matter of huge comittment to a proper diet.</P>

[dezzzR]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
I always knew mario was gone...

I for a few weeks I thought he would stay this year in between Smith leaving and Cruz errupting, but that was always on the wall IMO

I remember Pappy having huge arguements with me how we would have the money...

Honestly even if the cap was 10 more million i still don't think we'd resign him
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Well, I think after last season it was a little different. I think that we thought Smith would re-sign, and that we'd have to part with Manningham after this season b/c of the $$....but then when Smith left, we were like...ooooook, well at least we can keep Manningham. Buuuuuuuuttttt...then we got Cruz....stud central!! There's no way we can keep everyone. And Nicks is the best athlete on the field on offense. So he's here long term. So we can build with these 2 youngens!</p>[/quote]

I mean I never thought Manningham would be cheap. Obviously his price went up cuz of the postseason, but he would always cost a decent contract.
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I think there is a scary possibility that we still lose Nicks or Cruz</u>
[/quote]shut your mouth.

[Morehead State]

[quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"]
I always knew mario was gone...

I for a few weeks I thought he would stay this year in between Smith leaving and Cruz errupting, but that was always on the wall IMO

I remember Pappy having huge arguements with me how we would have the money...

Honestly even if the cap was 10 more million i still don't think we'd resign him
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Well, I think after last season it was a little different. I think that we thought Smith would re-sign, and that we'd have to part with Manningham after this season b/c of the $$....but then when Smith left, we were like...ooooook, well at least we can keep Manningham. Buuuuuuuuttttt...then we got Cruz....stud central!! There's no way we can keep everyone. And Nicks is the best athlete on the field on offense. So he's here long term. So we can build with these 2 youngens!</P>


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I mean I never thought Manningham would be cheap. Obviously his price went up cuz of the postseason, but he would always cost a decent contract.
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I think there is a scary possibility that we still lose Nicks or Cruz</U>
[/quote]shut your mouth.
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We will NOT lose either Nicks or Cruz. Its almost impossible. It is however very unlikely that we keep Manningham. </P>


88 and 80 (barring injury) will be mainstays in Giants blue.</P>


If the Steelers lose Wallace (which I doubt) MM could be a candidate for Pitt. If not I can see SF, Seattle, Cleveland or even NE. (although I think Brandon Lloyd has the inside track for NE)</P>

[lttaylor56]

[quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]


[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"]I said he was cut...but he was a smaller guy....
there's no comparison. He has the upper body of a power lifter/ body builder*now.[/quote]

i disagree

that picture was of him in college next to dwayne bowe and jamarcus russell

5 years in the NFL and professional training - i bet its natural
[/quote]</p>


riiiiight...</p>


[/quote]

dude he obviously had size to him, the college picture proves it

your taking a BLACK workout warrior take pics when hes obviously lifting or just got done lifting...

cuts look better then too.

I had black kids on my football team that NEVER worked out and had 8 packs
[/quote]</p>


there's a huge different between big, and inflated big. that's just unnatural big.</p>[/quote]i have to agree. his arms look un natural.
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lol white boys
[/quote]nothing to do with black or white. we all remember these pythons, brother.

[/quote]Have to be careful here... We're not talking strictly size. Hulks bodyfat % is ALOT higher than Landry's in that photo.....and hulk juiced. I can't help but consider, how much EXTRA juice landry took to achieve that shredded state.

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="JPizzack"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]
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<div class="actorDescription actorName" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:2}">In Reese We Trust</div></h6>
<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">From Pro Football Talk: "Per league source, receiver Mario Manningham has made no progress on new deal with the Giants and will enter free agency."</span></h6>


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its going to be the same conversation that we had with cofields agent last year:

we would love to have him back, we're against the cap, this is what we can offer

then they say okay thank you and go sign somewhere else for real money
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most likely. It's understandable. I already came to grips with this before the season ended. It sucks, but it's a reality.</p>


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I always knew mario was gone...

I for a few weeks I thought he would stay this year in between Smith leaving and Cruz errupting, but that was always on the wall IMO

I remember Pappy having huge arguements with me how we would have the money...

Honestly even if the cap was 10 more million i still don't think we'd resign him
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More revisionist history from Matt. The argument came before the Cruz explosion (before the 2011 season) and your view was that the decision would be between Steve Smith and Manningham after the 2012 season. (when MM's contract would be up)</p>


My position was that MM and SS had completely different skill sets (Smith was a posession receiver and MM a deep threat and that was NEVER going to be the choice. This was at a time we assumed Smith would stay a Giant for 2012.</p>


And your view was that we should keep Smith over Manningham.</p>


I said that Smith vs, Manningham was a false choice. The point has become moot since Smith went to Philly and Cruz emerged as a legit threat. </p>[/quote]

at least ur admitting your having revisionist history.

First off this debate came from during the 2010 season not just before the cruz explosion.

Yes the debate WOULD have been between Mario and Smith. We would not have the money for both and we would have preferred smith because of his overall production, not just the fact he was a possession WR.

Once we didn't sign smith and before Cruz errupted, I would of said we would have signed Mario. The main point is that we both agreed Mario would turn into a talent and we would not dump that much money into the WR position with Nicks needing a new contract soon.

The reason we are going to go wtih Cruz over Manningham is because of production - nothing else. It would of been the same for Smith.

[lttaylor56]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]
<H1 class=entry-title>LaRon Landry is looking quite large</H1>
<DIV class=blog-byline>By Dan Steinberg</DIV>


<SPAN class=imgfull>
<SPAN class=blog_caption></SPAN></SPAN>LaRon Landry hasn’t played a whole lot of football in recent seasons, but it looks like he’s still been lifting weights. Or elephants. Or elephants stuffed with weights.</P>


(Via his Twitter feed.)</P>


<A name=pagebreak></A><SPAN class=imgfull>

<FONT size=5>
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!!</FONT>
</SPAN>[/quote]
look at this size of his arms in both pictures. In one hes sweating and inflated... i wouldn't doubt that was post bicept work outs

dude is a professional athlete who always had a build like that and he has black guy build... i really don't think hes juiced


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He's obviously huge but its the extreemly low body fat that makes him look so cut.* His muscularity is definately achievable through natural means.* Doesn't mean he's not juicing but it can definately come naturally.</P>


The low body fat is just a matter of huge comittment to a proper diet.</P>[/quote]It's ok, I;m used to this. People who have not dedicated their lives to the weight/strength related sports commonly make similar statements. Look at the distended abdomen. There are telltale signs. I would bet a bunch on his pharmaceutical intake at the time of this photo.

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="bigblue4417"]
<h1 class="entry-title">LaRon Landry is looking quite large</h1>
<div class="blog-byline">By Dan Steinberg</div>


<span class="imgfull">
<span class="blog_caption"></span></span>LaRon Landry hasn’t played a whole lot of football in recent seasons, but it looks like he’s still been lifting weights. Or elephants. Or elephants stuffed with weights.</p>


(Via his Twitter feed.)</p>


<a name="pagebreak"></a><span class="imgfull">

<font size="5">
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!!</font>
</span>[/quote]
look at this size of his arms in both pictures. In one hes sweating and inflated... i wouldn't doubt that was post bicept work outs

dude is a professional athlete who always had a build like that and he has black guy build... i really don't think hes juiced


[/quote]</p>


He's obviously huge but its the extreemly low body fat that makes him look so cut. His muscularity is definately achievable through natural means. Doesn't mean he's not juicing but it can definately come naturally.</p>


The low body fat is just a matter of huge comittment to a proper diet.</p>[/quote]

yea i mean listen, i don't put it by any pro athlete to juice

and i have no reason to stand for Landry

but i actually think thats natural.. people are just built differently