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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]This whole saints bounty thing is such politically correct bull****. Now espn is highlighting tackles and sacks the saints have made the last 2 years and the media is trying to sell it like its some horrible act
    [/quote]

    it is horse ****

    unless they were locking to tear somebodys knee up give REAL cheap shots to the head (im not talking about a hand grazing a face mask type thing) then they were in the wrong

    But trying to hit somebody as hard as you can knock him out of the game is hwat football is all about...
    [/quote]</P>


    No its not Matt. Your position is horse****.</P>


    The goal on defense is to stop the offense and get turnovers. Not to try to injure your opponents.</P>


    </P>


    [/quote]

    I'm with matt on this one, trying to hit someone (legally) hard enough to knock them out of the game is acceptable in my opinion and if coaches want to give rewards for that as motivation I'm all for it....this is just Goodell trying to further wussifying this game.
    [/quote]</P>


    And BTW, this bounty thing hurts the defense. How many times have we seen guys try to make the big hit without wrapping up. Happens all the time anymore. When you wrap up you give up the "big hit" but increase the chances of making the tackle.</P>


    </P>


    BTW...my goal is to get as many posters as possible to have me as the star of their sigs.</P>


    I'm flattered really.</P>


    [/quote]

    bull****

    big hits helped us vs the Pats in the superbowl... a couple of dropped balls could possibly of been because they knew footsteps were coming. The Hernandez drop stands out

    Getting hits on Brady gives him happy feet
    [/quote]</P>


    Please find me my post where I said we should have "big hits".</P>


    Don't mischaracterize my position.</P>
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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]This whole saints bounty thing is such politically correct bull****. Now espn is highlighting tackles and sacks the saints have made the last 2 years and the media is trying to sell it like its some horrible act
    [/quote]

    it is horse ****

    unless they were locking to tear somebodys knee up give REAL cheap shots to the head (im not talking about a hand grazing a face mask type thing) then they were in the wrong

    But trying to hit somebody as hard as you can knock him out of the game is hwat football is all about...
    [/quote]</p>


    No its not Matt. Your position is horse****.</p>


    The goal on defense is to stop the offense and get turnovers. Not to try to injure your opponents.</p>


    </p>


    [/quote]

    I'm with matt on this one, trying to hit someone (legally) hard enough to knock them out of the game is acceptable in my opinion and if coaches want to give rewards for that as motivation I'm all for it....this is just Goodell trying to further wussifying this game.
    [/quote]</p>


    And BTW, this bounty thing hurts the defense. How many times have we seen guys try to make the big hit without wrapping up. Happens all the time anymore. When you wrap up you give up the "big hit" but increase the chances of making the tackle.</p>


    </p>


    BTW...my goal is to get as many posters as possible to have me as the star of their sigs.</p>


    I'm flattered really.</p>[/quote]yea, im sure any free advertisement for old guns is greatly appreciated.

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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]This whole saints bounty thing is such politically correct bull****. Now espn is highlighting tackles and sacks the saints have made the last 2 years and the media is trying to sell it like its some horrible act
    [/quote]

    it is horse ****

    unless they were locking to tear somebodys knee up give REAL cheap shots to the head (im not talking about a hand grazing a face mask type thing) then they were in the wrong

    But trying to hit somebody as hard as you can knock him out of the game is hwat football is all about...
    [/quote]</p>


    No its not Matt. Your position is horse****.</p>


    The goal on defense is to stop the offense and get turnovers. Not to try to injure your opponents.</p>


    </p>


    [/quote]

    no, its to gain an advantage fairly.

    its been the way of football forever. **** back to peewee football we use to get stickers on our helmets for huge hits.

    You think everytime a defender has a shot on the QB hes not trying to knock him out of the game?

    I bet you didn't have this position when LT was playing
    [/quote]hahaha, LT was the first pers. I thought of as well. Next was Ray Lewis.[/quote]</p>


    Butkus came before those guys.</p>


    The point is that the league has changed. While this kind of thing was accepted in previous eras, its not anymore. Player safety is an enormous concern for the league. I expect the punishment to be severe.</p>


    And the players are on board as well.</p>


    [/quote]

    its part of the pussification of football..

    For instance, if we're talking baout somebody getting paid for an injury like Tom Brady had that one year -i would be against that...

    If there was a bounty for the hit Boley put on Romo to break his collarbone - then ****in a.

    Like Nicks got LACED UP against the Saints this year... legally. If that guy got a bounty for that, then good for him.
    [/quote]</p>


    There is a difference between hard hitting and intent to injure.</p>


    Hittiing someone hard who comes accross the middle to make him think twice next time...fine with me.</p>


    Trying to injure a player and possibly end his career, not acceptable.</p>


    But we can argue till the cows come home about this. This IS the new NFL. If you don't like it, don't watch anymore.</p>


    I'll miss you though. I'm sure the tailgate parties for Austrailian Rules Football are a blast.</p>


    [/quote]

    uhg, im so disappointed in you on this topic.

    Players can get injured on any play. If you don't look to demolish your opponent on any chance you can, your going to ruin the game.

    LoL - THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. You have somebody coming across the middle, you look to put all you can in to hit him! Its the same thing!

    Your stance is what represents all that is wrong wtih this country. The pussification of america, next your going to say everybody should get a lombardi trophy just for participating.
    [/quote]</p>


    My stance is nothing like that. I like hard hitting as much as anyone. Thats different than try to injure players. You don't think so?. Going after a guys knees, trying to tear his ACL. Going after his head? Sorry thats not good football. I don't want to see that.</p>


    And as far as "pussification" is concerned. Thats what happens when you have a bunch of Democrats in charge.</p>[/quote]

    its like you really don't read what I say at all

    and honestly your buyiung the media spin that going after a guys knee and head is what tha twas about. I doubt it was, especially because those plays draw flags.

    Like i've said for now the third time, if it was a situation like that then I agree with you...

    but go reference Boley's hit on Romo a few years ago... he just caught him hard and straight - if a player got a bounty for that, then more power to him...

    even the hit they got on Nicks this year, it was a clean and they ****ed him up and i was okay with that.
    Fear the name, appreciate the game

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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]This whole saints bounty thing is such politically correct bull****. Now espn is highlighting tackles and sacks the saints have made the last 2 years and the media is trying to sell it like its some horrible act
    [/quote]

    it is horse ****

    unless they were locking to tear somebodys knee up give REAL cheap shots to the head (im not talking about a hand grazing a face mask type thing) then they were in the wrong

    But trying to hit somebody as hard as you can knock him out of the game is hwat football is all about...
    [/quote]</P>


    No its not Matt.* Your position is horse****.</P>


    The goal on defense is to stop the offense and get turnovers.* Not to try to injure your opponents.</P>


    *</P>


    [/quote]

    I'm with matt on this one, trying to hit someone (legally) hard enough to knock them out of the game is acceptable in my opinion and if coaches want to give rewards for that as motivation I'm all for it....this is just Goodell trying to further wussifying this game.
    [/quote]</P>


    And BTW, this bounty thing hurts the defense.* How many times have we seen guys try to make the big hit without wrapping up.* Happens all the time anymore.* When you wrap up you give up the "big hit" but increase the chances of making the tackle.</P>


    *</P>


    BTW...my goal is to get as many posters as possible to have me as the star of their sigs.</P>


    I'm flattered really.</P>


    [/quote]

    bull****

    big hits helped us vs the Pats in the superbowl... a couple of dropped balls could possibly of been because they knew footsteps were coming.* The Hernandez drop stands out

    Getting hits on Brady gives him happy feet
    [/quote]</P>


    Please find me my post where I said we should have "big hits".</P>


    Don't mischaracterize my position.</P>[/quote]haha-this is going wild....like usual, that's why we love it. I think MH is onboard with brutal hard defensive hits-so long as they are legal. Right MH?

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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]This whole saints bounty thing is such politically correct bull****. Now espn is highlighting tackles and sacks the saints have made the last 2 years and the media is trying to sell it like its some horrible act
    [/quote]

    it is horse ****

    unless they were locking to tear somebodys knee up give REAL cheap shots to the head (im not talking about a hand grazing a face mask type thing) then they were in the wrong

    But trying to hit somebody as hard as you can knock him out of the game is hwat football is all about...
    [/quote]</P>


    No its not Matt. Your position is horse****.</P>


    The goal on defense is to stop the offense and get turnovers. Not to try to injure your opponents.</P>


    </P>


    [/quote]

    no, its to gain an advantage fairly.

    its been the way of football forever. **** back to peewee football we use to get stickers on our helmets for huge hits.

    You think everytime a defender has a shot on the QB hes not trying to knock him out of the game?

    I bet you didn't have this position when LT was playing
    [/quote]hahaha, LT was the first pers. I thought of as well. Next was Ray Lewis.[/quote]</P>


    Butkus came before those guys.</P>


    The point is that the league has changed. While this kind of thing was accepted in previous eras, its not anymore. Player safety is an enormous concern for the league. I expect the punishment to be severe.</P>


    And the players are on board as well.</P>


    [/quote]

    its part of the pussification of football..

    For instance, if we're talking baout somebody getting paid for an injury like Tom Brady had that one year -i would be against that...

    If there was a bounty for the hit Boley put on Romo to break his collarbone - then ****in a.

    Like Nicks got LACED UP against the Saints this year... legally. If that guy got a bounty for that, then good for him.
    [/quote]</P>


    There is a difference between hard hitting and intent to injure.</P>


    Hittiing someone hard who comes accross the middle to make him think twice next time...fine with me.</P>


    Trying to injure a player and possibly end his career, not acceptable.</P>


    But we can argue till the cows come home about this. This IS the new NFL. If you don't like it, don't watch anymore.</P>


    I'll miss you though. I'm sure the tailgate parties for Austrailian Rules Football are a blast.</P>


    [/quote]

    uhg, im so disappointed in you on this topic.

    Players can get injured on any play. If you don't look to demolish your opponent on any chance you can, your going to ruin the game.

    LoL - THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. You have somebody coming across the middle, you look to put all you can in to hit him! Its the same thing!

    Your stance is what represents all that is wrong wtih this country. The pussification of america, next your going to say everybody should get a lombardi trophy just for participating.
    [/quote]</P>


    My stance is nothing like that. I like hard hitting as much as anyone. Thats different than try to injure players. You don't think so?. Going after a guys knees, trying to tear his ACL. Going after his head? Sorry thats not good football. I don't want to see that.</P>


    And as far as "pussification" is concerned. Thats what happens when you have a bunch of Democrats in charge.</P>


    [/quote]

    its like you really don't read what I say at all

    and honestly your buyiung the media spin that going after a guys knee and head is what tha twas about. I doubt it was, especially because those plays draw flags.

    Like i've said for now the third time, if it was a situation like that then I agree with you...

    but go reference Boley's hit on Romo a few years ago... he just caught him hard and straight - if a player got a bounty for that, then more power to him...

    even the hit they got on Nicks this year, it was a clean and they ****ed him up and i was okay with that.
    [/quote]</P>


    The Boley hit was clean. he can hit the QB as hard as he wants as long as its clean. If that causes a QB to throw it early or make a bad decision later in the game thats great.</P>


    But to say that Boley was trying to injure Romo is a big leap. You just play football, and football is a violent game.</P>
    "Phil Simms is the greatest QB in Giants history" ........Mahatma Gandhi

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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]This whole saints bounty thing is such politically correct bull****. Now espn is highlighting tackles and sacks the saints have made the last 2 years and the media is trying to sell it like its some horrible act
    [/quote]

    it is horse ****

    unless they were locking to tear somebodys knee up give REAL cheap shots to the head (im not talking about a hand grazing a face mask type thing) then they were in the wrong

    But trying to hit somebody as hard as you can knock him out of the game is hwat football is all about...
    [/quote]</p>


    No its not Matt. Your position is horse****.</p>


    The goal on defense is to stop the offense and get turnovers. Not to try to injure your opponents.</p>


    </p>


    [/quote]

    I'm with matt on this one, trying to hit someone (legally) hard enough to knock them out of the game is acceptable in my opinion and if coaches want to give rewards for that as motivation I'm all for it....this is just Goodell trying to further wussifying this game.
    [/quote]</p>


    And BTW, this bounty thing hurts the defense. How many times have we seen guys try to make the big hit without wrapping up. Happens all the time anymore. When you wrap up you give up the "big hit" but increase the chances of making the tackle.</p>


    </p>


    BTW...my goal is to get as many posters as possible to have me as the star of their sigs.</p>


    I'm flattered really.</p>


    [/quote]

    bull****

    big hits helped us vs the Pats in the superbowl... a couple of dropped balls could possibly of been because they knew footsteps were coming. The Hernandez drop stands out

    Getting hits on Brady gives him happy feet
    [/quote]</p>


    Please find me my post where I said we should have "big hits".</p>


    Don't mischaracterize my position.</p>[/quote]

    the point is that big hits is really what the bounties paid. Big hits. If they weren' legal, especially in todays game, they would of been flagged so I doubt that those plays would of been paying to a player.

    Big Hits got you the bounty, if you were able to break the guys collarbone im sure u got a bonus...

    thats football, thats the mindset you need for defense. If you take that away the game would be harmed FAR more than losing any player.
    Fear the name, appreciate the game

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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]This whole saints bounty thing is such politically correct bull****. Now espn is highlighting tackles and sacks the saints have made the last 2 years and the media is trying to sell it like its some horrible act
    [/quote]

    it is horse ****

    unless they were locking to tear somebodys knee up give REAL cheap shots to the head (im not talking about a hand grazing a face mask type thing) then they were in the wrong

    But trying to hit somebody as hard as you can knock him out of the game is hwat football is all about...
    [/quote]</P>


    No its not Matt. Your position is horse****.</P>


    The goal on defense is to stop the offense and get turnovers. Not to try to injure your opponents.</P>


    </P>


    [/quote]

    I'm with matt on this one, trying to hit someone (legally) hard enough to knock them out of the game is acceptable in my opinion and if coaches want to give rewards for that as motivation I'm all for it....this is just Goodell trying to further wussifying this game.
    [/quote]</P>


    And BTW, this bounty thing hurts the defense. How many times have we seen guys try to make the big hit without wrapping up. Happens all the time anymore. When you wrap up you give up the "big hit" but increase the chances of making the tackle.</P>


    </P>


    BTW...my goal is to get as many posters as possible to have me as the star of their sigs.</P>


    I'm flattered really.</P>


    [/quote]

    bull****

    big hits helped us vs the Pats in the superbowl... a couple of dropped balls could possibly of been because they knew footsteps were coming. The Hernandez drop stands out

    Getting hits on Brady gives him happy feet
    [/quote]</P>


    Please find me my post where I said we should have "big hits".</P>


    Don't mischaracterize my position.</P>


    [/quote]haha-this is going wild....like usual, that's why we love it. I think MH is onboard with brutal hard defensive hits-so long as they are legal. Right MH?[/quote]</P>


    Aren't we all? </P>


    And this is what happens when Morehead gets involved with the discussion. It goes off.</P>
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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    The only thing thats wrong in the bounty situation is, technically, its going against the cap.


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    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="lttaylor56"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]This whole saints bounty thing is such politically correct bull****. Now espn is highlighting tackles and sacks the saints have made the last 2 years and the media is trying to sell it like its some horrible act
    [/quote]

    it is horse ****

    unless they were locking to tear somebodys knee up give REAL cheap shots to the head (im not talking about a hand grazing a face mask type thing) then they were in the wrong

    But trying to hit somebody as hard as you can knock him out of the game is hwat football is all about...
    [/quote]</p>


    No its not Matt. Your position is horse****.</p>


    The goal on defense is to stop the offense and get turnovers. Not to try to injure your opponents.</p>


    </p>


    [/quote]

    no, its to gain an advantage fairly.

    its been the way of football forever. **** back to peewee football we use to get stickers on our helmets for huge hits.

    You think everytime a defender has a shot on the QB hes not trying to knock him out of the game?

    I bet you didn't have this position when LT was playing
    [/quote]hahaha, LT was the first pers. I thought of as well. Next was Ray Lewis.[/quote]</p>


    Butkus came before those guys.</p>


    The point is that the league has changed. While this kind of thing was accepted in previous eras, its not anymore. Player safety is an enormous concern for the league. I expect the punishment to be severe.</p>


    And the players are on board as well.</p>


    [/quote]

    its part of the pussification of football..

    For instance, if we're talking baout somebody getting paid for an injury like Tom Brady had that one year -i would be against that...

    If there was a bounty for the hit Boley put on Romo to break his collarbone - then ****in a.

    Like Nicks got LACED UP against the Saints this year... legally. If that guy got a bounty for that, then good for him.
    [/quote]</p>


    There is a difference between hard hitting and intent to injure.</p>


    Hittiing someone hard who comes accross the middle to make him think twice next time...fine with me.</p>


    Trying to injure a player and possibly end his career, not acceptable.</p>


    But we can argue till the cows come home about this. This IS the new NFL. If you don't like it, don't watch anymore.</p>


    I'll miss you though. I'm sure the tailgate parties for Austrailian Rules Football are a blast.</p>


    [/quote]

    uhg, im so disappointed in you on this topic.

    Players can get injured on any play. If you don't look to demolish your opponent on any chance you can, your going to ruin the game.

    LoL - THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. You have somebody coming across the middle, you look to put all you can in to hit him! Its the same thing!

    Your stance is what represents all that is wrong wtih this country. The pussification of america, next your going to say everybody should get a lombardi trophy just for participating.
    [/quote]</p>


    My stance is nothing like that. I like hard hitting as much as anyone. Thats different than try to injure players. You don't think so?. Going after a guys knees, trying to tear his ACL. Going after his head? Sorry thats not good football. I don't want to see that.</p>


    And as far as "pussification" is concerned. Thats what happens when you have a bunch of Democrats in charge.</p>


    [/quote]

    its like you really don't read what I say at all

    and honestly your buyiung the media spin that going after a guys knee and head is what tha twas about. I doubt it was, especially because those plays draw flags.

    Like i've said for now the third time, if it was a situation like that then I agree with you...

    but go reference Boley's hit on Romo a few years ago... he just caught him hard and straight - if a player got a bounty for that, then more power to him...

    even the hit they got on Nicks this year, it was a clean and they ****ed him up and i was okay with that.
    [/quote]</p>


    The Boley hit was clean. he can hit the QB as hard as he wants as long as its clean. If that causes a QB to throw it early or make a bad decision later in the game thats great.</p>


    But to say that Boley was trying to injure Romo is a big leap. You just play football, and football is a violent game.</p>[/quote]

    Boley put all he could into that hit and thats the way u have to play.

    He absolutely was looking to harm romo. He wasn't lookin to just "TACKLE" him.

    Free shot at the QB and you think his mentality is "just get him down" or "TAKE THAT MOTHER****ER OUT"

    if u think its anyhting more than to inflict pain, then YOUR in denial about the mentality of a football player.

    With that said, I can say with great confidence that when they talk about this bounties nobody is talking about diving at knees and **** like that
    Fear the name, appreciate the game

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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="dezzzR"]This whole saints bounty thing is such politically correct bull****. Now espn is highlighting tackles and sacks the saints have made the last 2 years and the media is trying to sell it like its some horrible act
    [/quote]

    it is horse ****

    unless they were locking to tear somebodys knee up give REAL cheap shots to the head (im not talking about a hand grazing a face mask type thing) then they were in the wrong

    But trying to hit somebody as hard as you can knock him out of the game is hwat football is all about...
    [/quote]</p>


    No its not Matt.* Your position is horse****.</p>


    The goal on defense is to stop the offense and get turnovers.* Not to try to injure your opponents.</p>


    *</p>


    [/quote]

    I'm with matt on this one, trying to hit someone (legally) hard enough to knock them out of the game is acceptable in my opinion and if coaches want to give rewards for that as motivation I'm all for it....this is just Goodell trying to further wussifying this game.
    [/quote]</p>


    And BTW, this bounty thing hurts the defense.* How many times have we seen guys try to make the big hit without wrapping up.* Happens all the time anymore.* When you wrap up you give up the "big hit" but increase the chances of making the tackle.</p>


    *</p>


    BTW...my goal is to get as many posters as possible to have me as the star of their sigs.</p>


    I'm flattered really.</p>


    [/quote]

    bull****

    big hits helped us vs the Pats in the superbowl... a couple of dropped balls could possibly of been because they knew footsteps were coming.* The Hernandez drop stands out

    Getting hits on Brady gives him happy feet
    [/quote]</p>


    Please find me my post where I said we should have "big hits".</p>


    Don't mischaracterize my position.</p>[/quote]

    the point is that big hits is really what the bounties paid.* Big hits. If they weren' legal, especially in todays game, they would of been flagged so I doubt that those plays would of been paying to a player.

    Big Hits got you the bounty, if you were able to break the guys collarbone im sure u got a bonus...

    thats football, thats the mindset you need for defense.* If you take that away the game would be harmed FAR more than losing any player.
    [/quote]Honestly, it's part of the reason I love this game so much. I don't want to see someone get paralyzed, but a good legal hard hit that clears the players sinuses and knocks the spit out of his mouth-makes me stand and cheer.

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