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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="JPizzack"]


    [quote user="dezzzR"]twiiiterrr war!!!
    shockey vs tooooms
    [/quote]</P>


    my favorite part:</P>


    "It’s funny how the Ny media still try’s to make money off me!” Shockey wrote. “Can anyone find a quote from me on me wanting to play for the GAINTS?”</P>


    what a huge pile of **** this guy is...how ANY of our fans could like him is beyond me!</P>


    [/quote]He is the ULTIMATE D-Bag

    Yea, cause he's the only thing the NY Media makes money on, its not like we're the biggest city in the world. Hell there's stuff that barely makes the news here that would be headline stuff in the rest of the country..... What a pompous a-hole

    I cant wait til we play whatever team he lands on so I can rain used batteries down on that clown
    [/quote]</P>


    You sure do express a lot of hate for guys who played their asses off for our beloved team Kase.</P>


    [/quote]There are right and wrong ways to leave a franchise, that determines how their careers with our teams are remembered, wether its The Giants, Rangers, Yanks, or Knicks
    [/quote]</P>


    Maybe you can explain the "right way" to leave a team to play for someone else.</P>


    [/quote]Its actually quite simple

    -Listen to offers from the team you're leaving before signing anything
    -TRY not to go to a division rival (sometimes its understandable)
    -Dont badmouth the fanbase, city, front office, former teammates, etc

    [/quote]</P>


    Who did SS badmouth?</P>


    And this is nice career advice, but the kid has to do whats right for himself and his family. And he got an offer from the Giants. It was around $1MM and a trip to the PUP list.</P>


    I just don't get this Kase. The kid did nothing wrong except want to play somewhere. So he took 4 times the money and a promise to get on the field right away.</P>


    [/quote]Smith didnt badmouth anyone, I was just listing that as one of the things you DONT do when you leave a team for another

    Its not like we were paying him $7.50 per hr plus tips, he was making bank here and we wanted to test him out to see how serious the injury was, we didnt want to rush him cause at the time we wanted him long time. Hell he was supposed to be 'the next Amani'

    ...If we didnt lose Smith, who knows if we would have had Cruz
    [/quote]</P>


    Is it your position that he should have taken the $1MM, get put on the PUP list and be at the mercy of doctors to determine if he could play. Or should he have taken 4 times the money and go to a team that already told him they thought he was healthy enough to play immediately.</P>


    I just don't understand what logic you think he was supposed to follow here Kase.</P>


    [/quote]Well from the Giants FO side of it, they said that Smith didnt even listen to their offer, so im not sure about how true the money part is. I think its just Smith trying to save face with the Giants.
    [/quote]</P>


    Thats not true. JR said that he didn't show the offer to the Giants to ask them to match it.</P>


    Smith wanted to play and he probably felt disrespected by the Giants for the low ball offer they gave him. Thats a guess but it makes sense to me.</P>
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    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"]
    the truth is you guys have joined into the mob mentality that goes against Shockey in NY...you have no reason to hate him...you hate him because everyone else does...and everyone else does because they weren't paying attention and the NY media told them to.
    [/quote]When Shockey left it was due, he was at ends with the team and the FO, it was understood on both sides. I never really 'hated' him til this recent beef with Amani, Toomer is one of my fav Giants of All-Time and is no doubt a Giants great, probably the best WR in team history

    His recent comments make him REALLY sound like a D-Bag
    [/quote]</P>


    Toomer insults Shockey and you don't expect him to respond?</P>


    And BTW, Toomer badmouthed the organization and coaching staff when they released him. Why don't you add Toomer to the great Giants you now hate.</P>
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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="JPizzack"]


    [quote user="dezzzR"]twiiiterrr war!!!
    shockey vs tooooms
    [/quote]</p>


    my favorite part:</p>


    "It’s funny how the Ny media still try’s to make money off me!” Shockey wrote. “Can anyone find a quote from me on me wanting to play for the GAINTS?”</p>


    what a huge pile of **** this guy is...how ANY of our fans could like him is beyond me!</p>


    [/quote]He is the ULTIMATE D-Bag

    Yea, cause he's the only thing the NY Media makes money on, its not like we're the biggest city in the world. Hell there's stuff that barely makes the news here that would be headline stuff in the rest of the country..... What a pompous a-hole

    I cant wait til we play whatever team he lands on so I can rain used batteries down on that clown
    [/quote]</p>


    You sure do express a lot of hate for guys who played their asses off for our beloved team Kase.</p>


    [/quote]There are right and wrong ways to leave a franchise, that determines how their careers with our teams are remembered, wether its The Giants, Rangers, Yanks, or Knicks
    [/quote]</p>


    Maybe you can explain the "right way" to leave a team to play for someone else.</p>


    [/quote]Its actually quite simple

    -Listen to offers from the team you're leaving before signing anything
    -TRY not to go to a division rival (sometimes its understandable)
    -Dont badmouth the fanbase, city, front office, former teammates, etc

    [/quote]</p>


    Who did SS badmouth?</p>


    And this is nice career advice, but the kid has to do whats right for himself and his family. And he got an offer from the Giants. It was around $1MM and a trip to the PUP list.</p>


    I just don't get this Kase. The kid did nothing wrong except want to play somewhere. So he took 4 times the money and a promise to get on the field right away.</p>


    [/quote]Smith didnt badmouth anyone, I was just listing that as one of the things you DONT do when you leave a team for another

    Its not like we were paying him $7.50 per hr plus tips, he was making bank here and we wanted to test him out to see how serious the injury was, we didnt want to rush him cause at the time we wanted him long time. Hell he was supposed to be 'the next Amani'

    ...If we didnt lose Smith, who knows if we would have had Cruz
    [/quote]</p>


    Is it your position that he should have taken the $1MM, get put on the PUP list and be at the mercy of doctors to determine if he could play. Or should he have taken 4 times the money and go to a team that already told him they thought he was healthy enough to play immediately.</p>


    I just don't understand what logic you think he was supposed to follow here Kase.</p>


    [/quote]Well from the Giants FO side of it, they said that Smith didnt even listen to their offer, so im not sure about how true the money part is. I think its just Smith trying to save face with the Giants.
    [/quote]</p>


    Thats not true. JR said that he didn't show the offer to the Giants to ask them to match it.</p>


    Smith wanted to play and he probably felt disrespected by the Giants for the low ball offer they gave him. Thats a guess but it makes sense to me.</p>[/quote]He didnt even give us a chance to match or outbid the contract, he just bounced.... Like a PUNK
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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="Morehead State"]

    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"]
    the truth is you guys have joined into the mob mentality that goes against Shockey in NY...you have no reason to hate him...you hate him because everyone else does...and everyone else does because they weren't paying attention and the NY media told them to.
    [/quote]When Shockey left it was due, he was at ends with the team and the FO, it was understood on both sides. I never really 'hated' him til this recent beef with Amani, Toomer is one of my fav Giants of All-Time and is no doubt a Giants great, probably the best WR in team history

    His recent comments make him REALLY sound like a D-Bag
    [/quote]</p>


    Toomer insults Shockey and you don't expect him to respond?</p>


    And BTW, Toomer badmouthed the organization and coaching staff when they released him. Why don't you add Toomer to the great Giants you now hate.</p>[/quote]Where did you hear this?!?!?!

    Amani Toomer is a SAINT!!!!
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    I dont get it....</P>


    you'll never hear me badmouthing our players while they are here. Even if there are issues, i'll defend them. I can comfortably say, without hesitation, that when Shockey asked for a trade, my first thought was "Thank god!"...</P>


    It's like when you guys slaughter Osi for asking for money. I get it! You dont like that he is greedy! The guy averages a sack a game almost every year, and holds the record for most forced fumbles in a single season. You kill him for his run stopping ability, and undisciplined speed rush style....but no player is going to be the complete package every single time. </P>


    but then to hear Shockey ***** constantly, and then randomly hearing players and former palyers say he was a bad teammate, and selfish player.....and then ppl defend him? i just dont get it , sorry...

    we can always change the subject if you like.</P>
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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="JPizzack"]


    [quote user="dezzzR"]twiiiterrr war!!!
    shockey vs tooooms
    [/quote]</P>


    my favorite part:</P>


    "It’s funny how the Ny media still try’s to make money off me!” Shockey wrote. “Can anyone find a quote from me on me wanting to play for the GAINTS?”</P>


    what a huge pile of **** this guy is...how ANY of our fans could like him is beyond me!</P>


    [/quote]He is the ULTIMATE D-Bag

    Yea, cause he's the only thing the NY Media makes money on, its not like we're the biggest city in the world. Hell there's stuff that barely makes the news here that would be headline stuff in the rest of the country..... What a pompous a-hole

    I cant wait til we play whatever team he lands on so I can rain used batteries down on that clown
    [/quote]</P>


    You sure do express a lot of hate for guys who played their asses off for our beloved team Kase.</P>


    [/quote]There are right and wrong ways to leave a franchise, that determines how their careers with our teams are remembered, wether its The Giants, Rangers, Yanks, or Knicks
    [/quote]</P>


    Maybe you can explain the "right way" to leave a team to play for someone else.</P>


    [/quote]Its actually quite simple

    -Listen to offers from the team you're leaving before signing anything
    -TRY not to go to a division rival (sometimes its understandable)
    -Dont badmouth the fanbase, city, front office, former teammates, etc

    [/quote]</P>


    Who did SS badmouth?</P>


    And this is nice career advice, but the kid has to do whats right for himself and his family. And he got an offer from the Giants. It was around $1MM and a trip to the PUP list.</P>


    I just don't get this Kase. The kid did nothing wrong except want to play somewhere. So he took 4 times the money and a promise to get on the field right away.</P>


    [/quote]Smith didnt badmouth anyone, I was just listing that as one of the things you DONT do when you leave a team for another

    Its not like we were paying him $7.50 per hr plus tips, he was making bank here and we wanted to test him out to see how serious the injury was, we didnt want to rush him cause at the time we wanted him long time. Hell he was supposed to be 'the next Amani'

    ...If we didnt lose Smith, who knows if we would have had Cruz
    [/quote]</P>


    Is it your position that he should have taken the $1MM, get put on the PUP list and be at the mercy of doctors to determine if he could play. Or should he have taken 4 times the money and go to a team that already told him they thought he was healthy enough to play immediately.</P>


    I just don't understand what logic you think he was supposed to follow here Kase.</P>


    [/quote]Well from the Giants FO side of it, they said that Smith didnt even listen to their offer, so im not sure about how true the money part is. I think its just Smith trying to save face with the Giants.
    [/quote]</P>


    Thats not true. JR said that he didn't show the offer to the Giants to ask them to match it.</P>


    Smith wanted to play and he probably felt disrespected by the Giants for the low ball offer they gave him. Thats a guess but it makes sense to me.</P>


    [/quote]He didnt even give us a chance to match or outbid the contract, he just bounced.... Like a PUNK
    [/quote]</P>


    You're being silly. Some people think its actually unethical to show offers to opposing bidders. I hate it in my business. the point is that the team had made it clear that he was getting small money and a trip to the PUP list.</P>


    I just don't get your point here.</P>
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    [quote user="Kase-1"]Well from the Giants FO side of it, they said that Smith didnt even listen to their offer, so im not sure about how true the money part is. I think its just Smith trying to save face with the Giants. [/quote]

    bull**** report...

    Smith has nothing to save face for..he was doing whats best for himself.

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    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"]
    the truth is you guys have joined into the mob mentality that goes against Shockey in NY...you have no reason to hate him...you hate him because everyone else does...and everyone else does because they weren't paying attention and the NY media told them to.
    [/quote]When Shockey left it was due, he was at ends with the team and the FO, it was understood on both sides. I never really 'hated' him til this recent beef with Amani, Toomer is one of my fav Giants of All-Time and is no doubt a Giants great, probably the best WR in team history

    His recent comments make him REALLY sound like a D-Bag
    [/quote]</P>


    Toomer insults Shockey and you don't expect him to respond?</P>


    And BTW, Toomer badmouthed the organization and coaching staff when they released him. Why don't you add Toomer to the great Giants you now hate.</P>


    [/quote]Where did you hear this?!?!?!

    Amani Toomer is a SAINT!!!!
    [/quote]</P>


    Just off the top of my head.</P>


    He said that he wouldn't resign with the Giants even if they wanted him. He said they were intentionally not throwing him the ball to "phase him out" of the team.</P>


    He also said that the Giants were "long on talent but short on heart".</P>


    I'm sure there were other bitter gems.</P>
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    Re: THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

    [quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="Morehead State"]


    [quote user="Kase-1"][quote user="DavenIII"]
    the truth is you guys have joined into the mob mentality that goes against Shockey in NY...you have no reason to hate him...you hate him because everyone else does...and everyone else does because they weren't paying attention and the NY media told them to.
    [/quote]When Shockey left it was due, he was at ends with the team and the FO, it was understood on both sides. I never really 'hated' him til this recent beef with Amani, Toomer is one of my fav Giants of All-Time and is no doubt a Giants great, probably the best WR in team history

    His recent comments make him REALLY sound like a D-Bag
    [/quote]</p>


    Toomer insults Shockey and you don't expect him to respond?</p>


    And BTW, Toomer badmouthed the organization and coaching staff when they released him. Why don't you add Toomer to the great Giants you now hate.</p>


    [/quote]Where did you hear this?!?!?!

    Amani Toomer is a SAINT!!!!
    [/quote]</p>


    Just off the top of my head.</p>


    He said that he wouldn't resign with the Giants even if they wanted him. He said they were intentionally not throwing him the ball to "phase him out" of the team.</p>


    He also said that the Giants were "long on talent but short on heart".</p>


    I'm sure there were other bitter gems.</p>[/quote]I dont know about that... Sounds more like something Shockey would say on a day he was feeling nice
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    [quote user="JPizzack"]

    I dont get it....</p>


    you'll never hear me badmouthing our players while they are here. Even if there are issues, i'll defend them. I can comfortably say, without hesitation, that when Shockey asked for a trade, my first thought was "Thank god!"...</p>


    It's like when you guys slaughter Osi for asking for money. I get it! You dont like that he is greedy! The guy averages a sack a game almost every year, and holds the record for most forced fumbles in a single season. You kill him for his run stopping ability, and undisciplined speed rush style....but no player is going to be the complete package every single time. </p>


    but then to hear Shockey ***** constantly, and then randomly hearing players and former palyers say he was a bad teammate, and selfish player.....and then ppl defend him? i just dont get it , sorry...

    we can always change the subject if you like.</p>[/quote]I have to agree. Both Osi and shockey have been in the same exact boat. Only difference is the Giants traded shockey. I dont get it.

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