THEE NYG SWAG THREAD

[DavenIII]

[quote user="byron"]well then I miss read what he said...sorry...when people stop spending money the whole thing is going titsup....I love this country and the freedom have but I have zero use for the well to dopeople that run it...they are wrecking it man and have been sinceNAFTA....I'm sorry daven I got to stop[/quote]

I agree with you, the issue right now is that big business and wealthy people are literally scared, they don't know what's going to get passed next, there is all this "hate" speak coming directly from the government and even the president himself....they are afraid, when you are afraid about the future what do you do? you prepare, how do they prepare? they stock pile money to pay for whatever's coming, which wrecks the economy because the poor and middle class need them to spend that money....but the government is prohibiting that, they are blatatly telling everyone who has money that they better ****ing not spend a dime of it because they are coming for it...and coming for it soon...that's what their "policies" say even if that's not the words coming out of their mouths.

but they aren't going to be able to take it, these guys are going to take their money and leave...they don't need to stand for being bullied by the government....they'll just leave...and it's you and me who will be left holding the bag of ****.

[Morehead State]

[quote user="byron"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"]


[quote user="dezzzR"]"If you have a business, you didnt build that." Barrack Obama

God help us.
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holy **** you sound like my father.....EVERYTHING out of context. it's so completely obvious that he meant consumers make abusiness thrive. </P>


i hate everyone's political agenda.</P>


[/quote] Actually, I just read the entire statement and its pretty bad. he suggested that risk takers deserve little credit for their success. That the government is their senior partner. What he fails to mention is that if they fail, they lose their shirts. And the "senior partner" doesn't lose anything. Its actually a rediculous statemnt that is completely out of touch. It actually insults risk takers which are the backbone of this economy.....And Pizz...consumerism is exactly what got us into this mess. great economies build things, not buy things.[/quote] </P>


you knowsome people build a business from scrach maybe out off need maybe cause they like it probably both....some do things out of need are they allrisk takers ? I look at risk takers as people that have something to risk rather than builders they invest into builders not always tho...a builder builds a house to sell he don't do that he goes broke fast alone with everyone around him...jesus mh money is made from selling things which draws in the investers....I'm not sure where your coming from man its all about consumerism....a good product sells itself and makes money money that we all need for healthcare,retirement on and on and on man!</P>


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Economies are built when you take something of little or no value and turn it into something of value. Something people want. You take wood and other raw materials and turn it into a home. Thats how the economy works. Consumerism creates nothing. Builds nothing and enhances nothing. Without real income (that which comes from building or providing something of value) no one can buy anything. We have a world market. Build things and we can sell it to the world. Buy something and you've given money to the Chinese.

[DavenIII]

[quote user="byron"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]Got a text bak from LT. He votes standard. I say we vote on the compromise of flex and 3 wrs. Only reason he voted standard is because he's new and that's what it was last year. What do u think of voting on the compromise?[/quote]

we can do it, but it's gonna get voted down and then will still be where we are now, Standard or Flex.

do the vote for the 3Wr + Flex I Vote yes for that, but after it fails then flip a coin for flex vs standard (when I'm there to witness it! I'll come up)
[/quote] Lts vote means its no flex ?[/quote]

makes it even 6 to 6 I believe.

[DavenIII]

[quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]Got a text bak from LT. He votes standard. I say we vote on the compromise of flex and 3 wrs. Only reason he voted standard is because he's new and that's what it was last year.

What do u think of voting on the compromise?[/quote]

we can do it, but it's gonna get voted down and then will still be where we are now, Standard or Flex.

do the vote for the 3Wr + Flex I Vote yes for that, but after it fails then flip a coin for flex vs standard (when I'm there to witness it! I'll come up)
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The vote is in, it's standard. I say we just try to vote it out to attempt peace[/quote]

I thought it was 6-6 with Lt's vote.

[Morehead State]

[quote user="JPizzack"]

[quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="JPizzack"]I dont care either way. I cant put into words how absolutely tired I am about hearing about everything Obama nonstop....<U>MOSTLY I'm tired of people who complain about everything</U>, because general rule of thumb is; when everything is fine, quiet as all can be......but if something's wrong....open up the goddamn flood gates! Everyone wants a piece of the action!!!

There's a time and place for political discussion......and it's not on an NFL forum. Argue with each other in person if youre so inclined. But honestly....it doesnt belong here...[/quote]You mean like your facebook. bahahahahahaa!!!!! jk. Anything goes in thee thread pizz you know this
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ok, Morehead Jr.....</P>


complain about policy, youre "educated".....
Tell those people to shut their ****ing mouth because they are tired of listening to them? youre unamerican at that point apparently.....
people call me angry or whatever, and that they complain.....what does that make all of you guys who discuss this all the time? Let me guess....youre all so ****ing smart because youre trying to make a difference. lol ok, peons. good luck fighting the good fight</P>[/quote]
I can only speak for myself when I say that I believe in something. I participate. Its the only way this country moves forward. Be informed, advocate what you believe and move the country in the right direction. I refuse to sit on the sidelines.

[Morehead State]

[quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"][quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]Got a text bak from LT. He votes standard. I say we vote on the compromise of flex and 3 wrs. Only reason he voted standard is because he's new and that's what it was last year.

What do u think of voting on the compromise?[/quote]

we can do it, but it's gonna get voted down and then will still be where we are now, Standard or Flex.

do the vote for the 3Wr + Flex I Vote yes for that, but after it fails then flip a coin for flex vs standard (when I'm there to witness it! I'll come up)
[/quote]

The vote is in, it's standard. I say we just try to vote it out to attempt peace[/quote]

I thought it was 6-6 with Lt's vote.
[/quote]
I'm changing my vote to flex.

[dezzzR]

[quote user="JPizzack"]

[quote user="dezzzR"][quote user="JPizzack"]I dont care either way. I cant put into words how absolutely tired I am about hearing about everything Obama nonstop....<u>MOSTLY I'm tired of people who complain about everything</u>, because general rule of thumb is; when everything is fine, quiet as all can be......but if something's wrong....open up the goddamn flood gates! Everyone wants a piece of the action!!!

There's a time and place for political discussion......and it's not on an NFL forum. Argue with each other in person if youre so inclined. But honestly....it doesnt belong here...[/quote]You mean like your facebook. bahahahahahaa!!!!! jk. Anything goes in thee thread pizz you know this
[/quote]</p>


<u>ok, Morehead Jr.....</u></p>


complain about policy, youre "educated".....
Tell those people to shut their ****ing mouth because they are tired of listening to them? youre unamerican at that point apparently.....
</p>

people call me angry or whatever, and that they complain.....what does that make all of you guys who discuss this all the time? Let me guess....youre all so ****ing smart because youre trying to make a difference. lol ok, peons. good luck fighting the good fight</p>[/quote]HEY, thats a low blow man. Im sorry, I dont understand the first patagraph. I never told anyone to shut their mouths....

[JPizzack]

[quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="JPizzack"].what does that make all of you guys who discuss this all the time[/quote]

Responsible citizens, it's an American Citizens job to be informed on what his representatives are doing and vote based upon that.

I don't care how someone votes (I really don't) as long as they have their reasons for it and they can back them up, what I can't stand Pizz (no offense) is someone who votes based on nothing, they refuse to try to learn anything about what their representatives are doing but then go on to complain about how ****ty everything is.

well it's ****ty because you aren't paying attention to what the people YOU are putting in charge stand for and are doing.
[/quote]</P>


Don't worry, I'm not offended by your statements, because I dont complain about the things you guys discuss like this. lol
So it makes me irresponsible that I'm not as obsessive and outspoken as the next person?</P>

[byron]

[quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="byron"][quote user="Morehead State"][quote user="JPizzack"]


[quote user="dezzzR"]"If you have a business, you didnt build that." Barrack Obama

God help us.
[/quote]</P>


holy **** you sound like my father.....EVERYTHING out of context. it's so completely obvious that he meant consumers make abusiness thrive. </P>


i hate everyone's political agenda.</P>


[/quote] Actually, I just read the entire statement and its pretty bad. he suggested that risk takers deserve little credit for their success. That the government is their senior partner. What he fails to mention is that if they fail, they lose their shirts. And the "senior partner" doesn't lose anything. Its actually a rediculous statemnt that is completely out of touch. It actually insults risk takers which are the backbone of this economy.....And Pizz...consumerism is exactly what got us into this mess. great economies build things, not buy things.[/quote] </P>


you knowsome people build a business from scrach maybe out off need maybe cause they like it probably both....some do things out of need are they allrisk takers ? I look at risk takers as people that have something to risk rather than builders they invest into builders not always tho...a builder builds a house to sell he don't do that he goes broke fast alone with everyone around him...jesus mh money is made from selling things which draws in the investers....I'm not sure where your coming from man its all about consumerism....a good product sells itself and makes money money that we all need for healthcare,retirement on and on and on man!</P>


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[/quote] Economies are built when you take something of little or no value and turn it into something of value. Something people want. You take wood and other raw materials and turn it into a home. Thats how the economy works. Consumerism creates nothing. Builds nothing and enhances nothing. Without real income (that which comes from building or providing something of value) no one can buy anything. We have a world market. Build things and we can sell it to the world. Buy something and you've given money to the Chinese.[/quote]</P>


I misunderstood your consumerism comment to me a consumer is some one who buys one my houses I'm not so bright should have looked it up ....who's fault is it we are giving it to the chinese...never mind I know the answer.......</P>

[MattMeyerBud]

[quote user="DavenIII"][quote user="MattMeyerBud"]Got a text bak from LT. He votes standard. I say we vote on the compromise of flex and 3 wrs. Only reason he voted standard is because he's new and that's what it was last year.

What do u think of voting on the compromise?[/quote]

we can do it, but it's gonna get voted down and then will still be where we are now, Standard or Flex.

do the vote for the 3Wr + Flex I Vote yes for that, but after it fails then flip a coin for flex vs standard (when I'm there to witness it! I'll come up)
[/quote]

In honor of bipartisanship I vote 3 WR flex over standard.

Just so everybody can get what they want